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True but that's why at his age the level of his ability is yet to be determined and why Prem clubs take these sorts of gambles on these type of players. Some fit in and do well others find the level they are capable of, but that is the whole point of a players career.

That's what makes me think if Premiership is on the table he is not to bothered as he is playing catch up anyway.

He can reject our offer which allows him to sign for anyone else and a tribunal decide the fee, which is the part i cant work out. Unless we are the only offer on the table then if so i would of thought by the end of next week he will of worked out which way he is going.

Sadly i think its the potential of a better contract elsewhere that is preventing this moving forward on the players side with us. We have rejected an offer or offers and now its a waiting game on what he does next, all parties are holding out trying to force what they want. And as said...

Process is now in GT's hands, if he rejects our offer he can walk into any other club in the England sign for them and if a fee is not agreed by the two clubs a tribunal will decide the initial fee and any future payments based on individual player targets. His contract expired with us so he now...

So first it was me stating we should withdraw a contract offer, which you know i never said. Now it's me rambling, well, fuck me with a feather, never expected that come back. I'm sure its taken from Tim's great book of misdirection. Anyway back on topic, just an opinion he may still sign for...

I didn't suggest that we withdraw a contract offer. As i agree he then becomes a free agent which would cost us potentially thousands of pounds. Yes if he signed for another club with no compensation agreed arbitration will decide the fees owed. Most are now settled by ongoing payments made on...

Please explain? And I'll try to answer what you think is clueless.

I think you are right, his agent is driving this but it will come to a point where the scenarios are having no wage, club having dead money on the table or a player with declining value. One of these will push a deal one way or the other.

I agree, but if we let it go on as is, then the ability to strengthen if GT holds out puts the club in a tough spot!, so if i was the club i would drop the amount asked up front build in incentive payments and look to move forward. The one certain is GT is looking at us as a last resort, if he...

GT would be stupid to reject a contract with us at the moment and its up to him on how long he takes to decide. If the club retract the contract then he a free man to walk from my understanding. If i was the interested party i would be asking the agent to drag it out in hope CCFC pull the offer...

I wouldn't be surprised to find out 3 weeks into the season that he left the club months ago or had been pushed.

Im with you Mark, i understand the running within its means but these have no plan to run it within its means to promote or encourage fans to back them. If they got in the top 5 at Christmas and they backed the manager to push on to gain promotion, then i would be giving them credit but they...

They have set a plan in motion not to invest but run the club solely reliant on the fanbase, to the point where they have said it, done it and will carry on the business model. This model is a financial plan run by the rule of not the level we play at, but the estimate of the lowest number of...

You are super intelligent and clear of mind so i'm not sure why you cant understand my opinion. But just out of curiosity, do you think they look at the club as two different departments, if not, are they serious about progressing the football side to fit the potential of the club and city?

The finicial model they are running the business on fits the league they are now in and has done for a very long time. The pattern is on a downward spiral and one that they have overseen without any attempt to get this club turned round. Or would you say they are running a model that fits the...

I didn't say court costs were a liability against club. I said Sisu have driven the club to a point where as the die hards will cover the running costs of the club so they can pursue court cases, appeals or claiming to be the victim. It's a plan, it's not by default we are in L2, as for more...

Sisu set the plan in motion years ago, they know the die hards will show come what may and are planning the structure of the club around this model. The evidence is for all to see, no matter what we as fans do they have picked the plan and are sticking with it. It could be in the next few years...

I'll donate but it won't be horse shit!!!!!

At the minute Cov rugby injunction with CCC and Wasps are arranging a banquet, rolling out the red carpet and hiring an events manager in anticipation of Joy riding into Cov on a white horse naked with nothing but strands of her remaining hair from that balding head to cover her vinegar tits...