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  1. oldskyblue58

    Do You Believe that Some of the Wilson Money Will Be Reinvested in the Team?

    There is a note in the 2013 SBS&L accounts that identifies a contingent asset that the club will receive £450k under transfer agreements, these sums are dependent on various potential achievements by the player and the club they are now employed by. Perhaps that's it? or the amount we will get...
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    Do You Believe that Some of the Wilson Money Will Be Reinvested in the Team?

    Question If the sale of Wilson was crucial to having any sort of budget and helps SISU sit tight at Sixfields for the next 12 months with the business breaking even ...... when exactly was the decision taken to sell him? :thinking about:
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    Open letter from Joy and Tim

    If this all doesn't prove how inept the FL are then I do not know what will. This £590k is entirely of their making. They made the decision to impose the figure. Clearly have not made clear or even understood the basis of the figure. Decided to give the share August 2013 but delay payment of...
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    Do You Believe that Some of the Wilson Money Will Be Reinvested in the Team?

    Of course some of it will be invested in the squad. I think people need to read the statements from Waggott and Fisher carefully. The monies are being put in to the football business. Like many businesses the football business has many facets that require paying they include players wages...
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    Sisu will not drop JR appeal

    I have a problem with repeated assertions that 60p in every £ generated being given to Pressley. The maths and regulations show a different story Player sales - well the headline figure might say £3.5m for Wilson but then you need to deduct agents fees etc. If the payments are staged well you...
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    Sisu will not drop JR appeal

    and taking or continuing legal action invariably leads to a break down in communication NW. Best way talks happen is if both sides compromise. Do you see any compromise from SISU? The £590k owed to ACL is completely out of their control, so in theory they could say show us the escrow and we...
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    Sisu will not drop JR appeal

    Sorry but I do not see how this can be parked to one side so ACL should talk to CCFC/SISU. The action is not just against CCC but has ACL joined in. As such that means all the time the case continues it is costing CCC & ACL money time and energy. Now they may however unlikely get leave to...
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    Open letter from Joy and Tim

    You know what puzzles me is why the FL deferred payment of the £590k. It was clearly an arbitrary figure that equates to a non existent CVA. Why say wait until next year? Had they said at the start pay this or there is no share what choice would SISU have had? That aside why impose the sum at all?
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    Open letter from Joy and Tim

    My tuppence worth on the events over last few days. Firstly the march. Great to see so many fans still care and a terrific turnout all things considered. The tone was "bring city home" and that was loud and clear. Clearly that was the primary drive for nearly all those that attended. The FL...
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    F and b

    The structure referred to in 2009 is not the same as it is now IEC Experience is a subsidiary of ACL and has the rights to manage the whole site for 15 years initally. IEC was formed april 2012. Compass own 23% of IEC and supply IEC with the staff etc. You can reasonably expect the iec deal...
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    Owners of CCFC willing to hold talks over Ricoh return

    there has been no contact whatsoever between the two sides regarding a deal at the Ricoh
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    Open letter from Joy and Tim

    If this is for a short term deal say 2 or 3 years how much difference does the F&B really make to a return to the Ricoh. Car parking and advertising is easy to sort out. The biggest difference is match income Sixfields ....... under £500k Ricoh ........... £3m it is not a difficult...
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    Open letter from Joy and Tim

    Whilst welcoming a positive response ....... Actions speak louder than words. Don't speak to the fans pick the phone up and speak to ACL. Deals require some element of compromise on both sides - are they prepared to compromise? Never got that impression in the past strange isn't...
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    Ricoh chairman says it would be a "tragedy" if CCFC didn't return

    The CVA never happened and so the £590k never existed as a debt to anyone so it isn't about recalculation as such. As no settlement was reached then the liquidation reverts to the base facts of the contractual debts. Justice Hickinbottom in his judge said that the escrow amounts and the match...
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    Football league to consider outstanding debt sisu owe acl

    There is a problem in that though for the FL Nick They could say that certainly but they imposed the £590k condition as part of their insolvency policy. Should it be seen that the policy is nothing more than a set of arbitrary regulations that can be chopped and changed to suit the whim at the...
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    Football league to consider outstanding debt sisu owe acl

    No legal basis to do that though robo. The FL have no authority over ACL and cannot force them to accept any deal. The contract is between FL and Otium no one else. As such ACL might state that the £590k needs to be paid but there is no contractual relationship they can rely on to chase the...
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    Football league to consider outstanding debt sisu owe acl

    so whats the betting that following the FL board meeting 07/08/14 that the statement goes along the lines of "we discussed it, SISU explained and appealed it, we thought yeah why not, so we reduced the financial penalty".............. and the £590k was really a typo it should have read...
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    Acl to comment on Ricoh arena position

    No idea tony but the FL are quite within their rights to say no. ACL are not party to the agreement and I would think have no legal right to see it even if they do benefit from it
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    Acl to comment on Ricoh arena position

    Whilst I understand the reactions surely what we need is clarity. The tone is perhaps a little too confrontational. BUT we, SISU and FL now know what it takes to get negotiations started. It is clear and to the point. None of this nonsense of we are thinking about doing something, we are not...
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    Acl to comment on Ricoh arena position

    here is a thought for you ...... the Alan Higgs centre took a similar stance of pay what you owe before we talk. Obviously the figures are much less but its the same principle. The academy now have an (3yr ?) agreement at allard way.... seems to have worked As for Lucas taking control do you...
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