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Well that was absolute dog shit there's a number of players that need to pull their heads out their arses. No threat at all tonight and defence was cut through far too often.

I don't necessarily disagree but it did take a number of those players a bit of time to get going and let's face it Gyok has gone on to do ways more than pretty much anyone would have imagined. What I'm trying to say is I'm not sure we are comparing apples with apples just yet.

Absolutely I'd expect most clubs of our size would have her role people seem more annoyed that the role has been taken by a woman which lets be honest says more about them.

I'm not sure I get this take either, he hasn't said anything beyond Robins and Adi's relationship fell down that's his right to say. He probably wouldn't have without the backlash but such is life.

The hate for her is frankly bizarre it's like everyone is looking for a scapegoat beyond the obvious.

He will have a say in manager (head coach) hiring but beyond contract and negotiation of pay I wouldn't expect him to be involved in coach hiring.

I mean there is an argument to say they don't have the right level of experience for a championship club so I wouldn't be surprised either.

Why on earth would the Owner be involved in organising the coaches? I'd say that out of all things was definitely not his fault.

He went out of his way to say the coaches were good but not organised correctly.

Looks like King may have read my message from the day Mark was sacked... In fairness it always felt people were putting a lot of crap at Doug's door because they couldn't see past the love for Mark.

Feeling odd as someone who normally pushes for stability to be more on the side of ready to roll the dice. Mark has done fantastic things for this club and will forever be a legend as far as I'm concerned. It feels like a lot of people want to excuse him from the coach and structure decisions...

I saw it a few times thought they both moved to miss each other and ended up in the same spot at the same time. Didn't think it was malicious.

Really saw what Rudoni could bring today given a bit of a slow start. Thought it was an excellent response!

GMK was my intro to cover forums will always miss it. Then I used to subscribe to the CET online as they had such good ccfc content...😬😬😬

I guess backroom upheaval would be a factor but I'd say a lot of clubs go through that just feels like a missed opportunity this year.

I'm more pissed off tonight than I have been for a long time. Every slow start to a season I have made excuses for and to be fair there have been some really good ones. This year there really aren't that many excuses and we are still starting the season with the same old handicap. I just don't...

Really conflicted with Robins this season the slow starts feel like groundhog day even though in other seasons there were good reasons. I have no doubt our form will pick up but will that make us the nearly men again...

Allen wasn't at fault for either goal was he?

In theory changed to 2 more defensive minded midfielders. Is that the wrong thing at that point?

A prem side is always going to get a few chances against a champ side. I didn't think their first goal was anything to do with game management but that pass from Sheaf was suicide. Up to that point I didn't think they had much of a sniff.