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We can't ban people from waving flags mate, Israeli or Palestinian. Threats and racism though, and I mean either way, that we should act on. Agreed. Anyway isn't it time you popped out for some Monster Munch.

Sorry mate, but that's not right. It's not anti-semitic to show support for Palestine. That's not right at all. As for being on a roundabout, I guess that's a mini-protest. Are they attacking police yet?

I think it's a legitimate method of expressing discontent, Otis. It doesn't hurt or threaten anyone. If the EDL were content to stand in front of churches waving the cross of St George, I'd be ok with that I guess. Better than burning down hotels, that's for sure.

Anyway, hope you've been to the shop already Nick, because I've really got to go. Try not to break anything or upset anyone, eh. 😄

Because there are tens of thousands of Muslims (including women and children) dying in Gaza, Nick, and the impression that our government doesn't much care. It's not directly related to the EDL, but it's obviously a trigger point for Muslims around the world. Flying a Palestinian flag...

I absolutely get that you're not advocating it, but that would make things ten times worse of course. The best result here is what I think is going to happen, which is nothing. The EDL scrotes are basically cowards, so they won't show, and I think there are enough mature, decent people at the...

Yes, I get that. If it kicks off I'd be surprised if he's not be eating tasers and facing ten years if he pulls that out and starts waving it around. At the moment though there's no threat to anyone. Clearly over the weekend the rioters were actively seeking a violent confrontation, so it...

You bought them from a pet shop and released them, we know the truth Otis. You probably should have taken their cute little collars off first though... 😄

Police are at this one, not sure if it's the same place or not. This one looks like a lot of people standing peacefully in front of a mosque. No obvious weapons, no direct threat to people or property, and no reason for the police to get involved. Don't get me wrong mate, I'm all for anyone...

Give them a chance mate, I seriously doubt that the police are not there by now. You might be disappointed though, they're not likely to pile straight in, in the same way that couldn't control the arseholes burning down the hotel. They'll go for containment and de-escalation first. If the EDL...

At a mosque near you. Seriously, for all the shit that religion gets (which I can understand), if you were a hungry man and turned up to a mosque, or a church, or a gurdwara, the odds are that someone would try to help you. Then again, I'm still dumb enough to believe that most people here...

Hold up a moment, I could certainly see a few teenage prick wannabe gangsters in that clip, and a fair size group of men over the road, but where were the hundreds of people with swords. Again, this shit is dangerous. Making stuff up or repeating it unchecked is exactly how we got here.

I think they'll be spending some time in pokey before they even need to worry about the bills. Much as I hate them mate, and I really do, what I'd really like to see is some attempt at rehabilitation. I think we both liked that Imam who said he'd invite them inside the mosque for tea and...

Can't see why not. There's an element of compensation in the criminal court for damages, and I think there would also be a path through the civil courts (usually to a lower standard of proof, I think). This could get expensive for a few people...

I don't much care for the chap they originally chose as a solicitor, given the things he's said about other stuff. For whatever reason, thankfully, he's not involved any more, but you do understand it's a solicitor's responsibility to advocate for his client, don't you? I think the road you're...

Who says that's not going to happen? Why does the fact that they or their solicitor is Muslim matter?

Erm, I'm not sure either of things are actually true of Pakistan, but either way it's not how English law works. The offenders will end up in court, and the court will decide the sentence. Like I say, either you believe in the law, or you don't.

Erm, I think the offenders here were British citizens. I'm sure you didn't mean to imply anything else, but it pays to be clear in these situations, as we've seen. As for retribution, you either believe in the law or you don't. It really is that simple and you need to decide which side you...

I agree, but you have to accept that the overwhelming threat here is from the far right against Muslims, immigrants, and people of colour. I'm not quite as worried about a gang of pissed up Muslims burning down a library or looting a Greggs. Attacking a Greggs, for God's sake. We'll see this...

It's a very tricky one, legally. "Reasonable force" to defend yourself, others, and your property, is the limit. No weapons of any kind, or even things that could be used as a weapon, no instigation, no retaliation; it's a very fine line. Anyhow, the last thing we need, imho, is to add fuel to...