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  1. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    and SISU said get on with it we wont interfere in the CCC sale then put in a bid for the charity shares that came across as just being able to say "well we tried" What I said was that PWKH probably had the details of the CCFC bid well before the CCFC bid went public Of course the deal had been...
  2. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    So what ? I would think the details of the ccfc bid were available to them prior to them being made public wouldn't you
  3. oldskyblue58

    Telephone Scam

    yes exactly
  4. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    It wasn't just about the cash in hand though. It wasn't just about £2.77m. Council's and charities can take in to account their assessment of social economic benefits. So in theory SISU could have offered 3m and the CCC assessment could still have been Wasps was a better deal because of the...
  5. oldskyblue58

    Telephone Scam

    a payment of tax and penalties. One case I saw quoted £2000 in tax and £9000 in penalties. Also got to be careful even replying as there are scams that bill you huge sums on phone charges
  6. oldskyblue58

    Telephone Scam

    Had a client in recently who had received a call from a Heather Grey purporting to be from HMRC Told the client he was in trouble with HMRC and needed to take urgent action. Had to call back on the number given or get his accounts attourney to do so The use of attourney got me suspicious, its...
  7. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    Read some of the threads over the weekend. To be honest when it got to name calling and personal insults I just stopped looking Just a few thoughts Question. Don't our laws reflect, to some degree, our community/society morals? JR1. What was being tested - (and for the first time in court) -...
  8. oldskyblue58

    New Site

    Working fine for me the update looks good :)
  9. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    so the consensus on here at least, no matter it seems what your own individual stand point is, is that the legal actions should stop But then we selfishly have the best interests of CCFC at heart, .............................. unfortunately the owners/investors it seems are not focussed on...
  10. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    ...............this
  11. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    There are some interesting comments in todays judgement regarding budgets, profitability and valuation From what I can see legal opinion is that the public tendering etc applies to land and property (ie not shares) and that councils are able to dispose in any manner they see fit...
  12. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    what it will do is affect the long term security and planning for CCFC though. The club may want to stay at Ricoh and have a better deal I would be surprised if Wasps are going to change the nature of rent deals for CCFC whilst this is going on and Wasps are included in these actions. I...
  13. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    Just thoughts really not answers, all (generally) from a legal not moral view point
  14. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    I doubt it will change anything because it will (a) take time to exit the EU (b) it is the law at time of the transaction that will count (c) and so long as application is made prior to exit then it will be an on going case Well that's how I see it anyway, could of course be wrong
  15. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    SISU RESPONSE We are obviously disappointed by the Court of Appeal’s decision. This is the first time that this legal principle has been considered by the superior courts and, whilst we respect the views of their Lordships, this judgment conflicts with guidance given by both the UK Government...
  16. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    Concluding paragraphs of a 26 page document giving a unanimous judgement of all three judges 62. I agree with the judge. In my view there was ample material upon the basis of which he could properly conclude: “131. . . . ii) In fact, as we now know, restructuring the Bank loan and the...
  17. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    so in the eyes of 4 top judges (3 today 1 before) CCC acted legally in providing the loan and protecting its asset.
  18. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    only if they win and the judge says so at some point in the future (maybe years) In the mean time they have to fund the legal team, provide evidence and statements, attend court etc ....... it all costs
  19. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    I think before a judgement is handed down a few days before both sides get to see it to check the facts. Whether or not others got to see it I wouldn't know and couldn't say
  20. oldskyblue58

    Mean while back in court

    but I think you will find Wasps were linked in to and named on the JR2 papers. As such it is it going to cost them time effort and money to deal with and be represented. I would guess that SISU would seek to prove collusion between CCC, Wasps & AEHC in artificially deflating valuations and...
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