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  1. oldskyblue58

    Is Silence Golden ?

    SBITC do indeed do fine work and no it doesn't get enough coverage. Wasps are a threat to that but SBITC are about the only bright light in the CCFC world and should be applauded Last published accounts for SBITC showed that CCFC itself provided some website space and match program space, 5000...
  2. oldskyblue58

    Is Silence Golden ?

    That's the point though isn't it, Seppala is not just private she is positively secretive ....... how long did it take to get a picture of the woman? ............... if she went public so quickly and strongly in rejecting the approach then the hope of a successful GH deal at the figures quoted...
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    Is Silence Golden ?

    My personal opinion is I wouldn't get your hopes up. The gap between bid value and seller expectation would seem to be huge. Any third party with no passion for CCFC will not want to pay the premium expected. In the past the silence has been because (a) there are things instigated by SISU they...
  4. oldskyblue58

    ST sales

    what does irritate is the assumption that all those not buying season tickets are all doing it to damage the CCFC finances in some vain hope it will see SISU go. Most people I know if they are not going to renew do so because it has become a chore, is not value for money, is not enjoyable, is a...
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    16/17 post-mortem

    Club historian Jim Brown provides these facts The damning stats which underline horrific Coventry City season Does that make the 2016/17 team the worst in our history?
  6. oldskyblue58

    The real retained list....

    "Goalkeeper Lee Burge and defender Chris Stokes will both be offered fresh terms, whilst top goalscorer George Thomas has begun talks over a new deal. The club have also entered negotiations with Academy products Ryan Haynes, Gael Bigirimana, Dion Kelly-Evans and Devon Kelly-Evans to extend...
  7. oldskyblue58

    D Day Today

    2016 League 1 average before bonuses around 70k
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    D Day Today

    Really not surprised by the clear out. most of the players have proven themselves not up to the task. Even the brief improvement under Robins flattered to deceive As for salaries. League 2 average 2016 were around £40k before bonuses according to a quick google search I did. Managers around an...
  9. oldskyblue58

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    Not denying the ground situation needs sorting out. However what pressure does that put on Seppala to do a deal now. It won't force the FA/ EFL to take action against Sisu who can point to being blocked at ricoh and bpa. The fa/efl will always side with their member. No deal means allowing a...
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    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    Sisu deserve nothing. The only time I have seen talk of giving them anything is this notion of packing the ground to give them something to sell. Just puts the price up and gives them more it doesn't actually change their stance. However nothing does not get rid of them. They in a strange twist...
  11. oldskyblue58

    Another football experts take on CCFC

    Now we might "understand" what we think fisher has meant but it isn't what he said specifically in that quote regarding season tickets. The majority of season ticket holders most probably will not be on this forum breaking down the finances. Their main source of Ccfc info comes from the club...
  12. oldskyblue58

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    There is no higher price only the price at which a deal gets done. That in my opinion will be greater than the total value of the assets. How much does a new buyer want the club and how great the desire SISU has to go? That's what will drive this potential deal Hoffman or anyone else needs to...
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    Another football experts take on CCFC

    all clubs have matchday costs
  14. oldskyblue58

    Another football experts take on CCFC

    as the person who got that particular line of journalistic enquiry kick started I would say that is a good article and that I agree with the contents. only thing that probably needed highlighting was the fact that the extra income streams bring with them extra costs and it is the net benefit or...
  15. oldskyblue58

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    of course you are, how could I not realise this , and never one to shine a light on yourself, you being so modest shy and retiring and all :D ..................... that's why you ask me questions ;)
  16. oldskyblue58

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    No one is interested in SISU's debt - what we want to know is what is the price for them to go and is there any way it could or should be met. Nothing to do with valuation of Otium or even the value of the assets. Nothing to do with what they paid for CCFC H Ltd.
  17. oldskyblue58

    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    Had SISU done the same deal as Hoffman in 2008 it would have cost them £7m just to buy the assets listed in the 2008 accounts.
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    Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations

    Its very different both in the accounting and finances. Buy the company and you take over the liabilities. Buy the assets you don't. The buy out in 2008 involved quite simple accounting tricks - all totally legal. SISU took responsibility for the debts introduced them into a new company then...
  19. oldskyblue58

    CCFC worth - by lecturer in football finance Liverpool

    So why in the calculations he has done does he show interest that is calculated on the ARVO loans if its been written off?
  20. oldskyblue58

    So you want to buy CCFC......

    The Hoffman deal isn't buying Otium though only the assets. So that company still exists and would still be part of the action being taken. If successful in JR2 then they could claim compensation certainly up to the date the assets were sold. Of course that then raises the question would the...
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