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Have not said we can't. But I remember alot of focus being on players letting us down and not the manager before lampard came in.

Need to pray sheff wed hold on as can see Luton doing us too the form they in We have been on a hell of a run, not sure why knives out for lampard everytime when the odd loss happens

Why did dovin have to get injured?! As bad timing as itv digital going under

Wright needs to work on his headers

The goals we concede with Collins are crazy

Sheff wed goal!

Simms was involved heavily in our goal. I'd give him more time in second half personally.

Awful so far from everyone and I don't have faith in Collins to save anything unfortunately That said the end to second half may actually help us more than if we went in nil nil in a weird way

It's a squad game and that 11 is still strong

May have been the reason he managed 90 mins on Friday though. Maybe he was always gonna be rested today regardless

Guys is it really worth debating this for so long? It's a game we should be able to win clearly but also is a tricky one in context. Not much else to be said.

I was talking about clints personal insults. You quoted me and said I did the same. So I replied about no excuses for personal insults.. Not sure what I've done wrong here.

What are you on about? I'm not talking about you . You are debating me going on about clints personal insults You have got this all wrong in your head so don't try put it on me.

No excuse for being personal. Come on torch you are a grown man. Injured and playing poorly = fuck off you useless c**t? Come on torch. We better than that. Especially if going to then celebrate him 2 weeks later!

No I have preemptively addressed this in other threads Obviously clinching is most important but for me if we can play well and to do it that's important and if that means a closer run in than if we got lucky with poor displays but wins then I would take that. But clinching matters most obviously

Think he's just doing a good job with an underdog team I'd take a draw today but a win would be massive . As I keep saying for me I just want to see a continuation of the good performances mostly

I'd like to keep him. Come on king spend some more of your own money for lampard.

8 PTS is alot? Would have them 2-3 places above relegation zone. Not bad for Plymouth? I think their manager is good. Got them competing. Some very big wins and he speaks well Not sure how representative an online forum is of an entire fan base when it comes to not liking the manager etc

I have never said different

I'm asking where the personal insults are ok and where they are not. So mums are off limit. But anything about the player is fair game? Just trying to understand