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not talking about that talking about last night. typical Labour trying to divert attention away so it’s gone from reform having a poor night to Labour having poor night who had a good night then because it Weren’t the tories sums your views up in your eyes everyone had a bad night

how do you work that out? they gained 15000 votes from Labour in the space of 9 months You think that’s a good result for Labour? that’s like winning 6-0 first half then losing 7-6

If @shmmeee @David O'Day can’t admit starmer has had stinker so far shows how shortsighted and one dimensional their politics are

that’s your opinion not fact reform created a few years ago and making waves both local and national

and? a by election within a year not 2 or 3 years like most Labour lost 15,000 votes in less than a year if you don’t see that as damaging how far away from the real world you live

map if Labour got a 15k turnaround you wouldn’t be getting giddy the general public have had enough of Labour already they have no ideas or identity If you don’t think last night has a big impact on politics in the next few years you are delusional the only reason Labour hasn’t suffered...

what’s that got to do with anything? every council have seen massive reform gains and Labour losses Labour lost a 15,000 majority in less than 9 months if you think that’s a good night for Labour then you are delusional

tell me where I’m wrong?

9 months ago Labour won by 15,000. that’s a big big swing whether you like it or not Labour aren’t up for it - what a load of nonsense

are you for real? they over turned a 15k majority for an mp and took plenty of votes of Labour and not just tories. not bad for a party only created only a few years ago. if this doesn’t show you the country discontent to starmer nothing will keep burying that head in the sand

who said they were shite? not me I said they are inconsistent which when it matters is never good

we played against 10 men for 55 mins the other 45 mins we didn’t offer anything against 11

bash? everything is facts we have somehow still managed to stay in the playoffs despite inept performances so you are telling me we’ve played well last 9 games to warrant the spot we have got lucky so unsure how this is bashing

lol I hope you are a millionaire with all these perfect predictions you look at the Leeds team, most of them players at the cbs that night I thought wow we’ve spent a lot of money and so far only rudi is showing value for money with his consistent performances since wright hat trick against...

again apart from rudi you tell me another player who consistently shows us performances where you think wow? you are right so why does Lampard still persist with him? he should never have played again after pompey but also the outfield players have not played good enough in the last month not...

how do you know they are boring if you don’t watch them?

difference is those 2 players were consistently good apart from Rudoni at the min , not one player has shown consistency of their abilities which either means mentally they are not good enough or they flatter to deceive at times

before the ban of english clubs, English teams dominated European competitions every year when they were proper competitions not the glorified super league it is now you are not making a relevant point comparing 87 team to now

wtf are you on about now? cup games are one off look at our run last season the 87 team was very good Im sure we finished top half that season

do you watch football? the performances last season were far better than this season yet last season we didn’t make the playoffs the standard is shocking very rarely do I leave a game and think they are two good teams the gap now between championship and prem is bigger than ever and imo prem...