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  1. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    The concept of a business loan and an investment are not that different. When an investor offers up some cash, he's planning one of two things - either an exit strategy where he recoups his investment + interest, or a dividend; whereby he recoups his investment + interest longer-term. Dragons...
  2. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    What tickles me is that people are so pedantic yet miss blindingly obvious things. In my initial post I left my twitter username. Anyone could follow that to discover i'm not a SISU employee, or indeed TF.
  3. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    Well one or two of us don't live in Coventry. Some of us are unfortunate enough to live a couple of miles down the A444. I didn't want to rule anybody in the locality out on account of the number of pedantic replies to my posts. Seems my efforts to eliminate this problem in advance were met...
  4. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    The irony James Smith, is that international investors with pockets cumulatively as deep, if not deeper than the aforementioned dragons would be investing in that very plan tabled by Fisher! Are these successful business people stupid? Or are we...? But then there's us meager midlands folk...
  5. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    I made my post with certain ideas of how it would be received, and frankly i'm both disappointed and unsurprised. Yes, my original post had a condescending tone - You won't win a trophy for pointing that out! Hell, the title is condescending, so there's no 'reading-between-the-lines'...
  6. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    Are you actually being serious? Nothing short of ridiculous. On that note, I withdraw. For the record, you are wrong! And deluded!
  7. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    See I have to disagree. Because this is not a coincidental meeting of landlord/tenant. The arena was built principally FOR THE SKY BLUES. How can that very important fact escape you? The arena was meant to be a mutually beneficial venture, and clearly on this point, it is precisely the...
  8. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    You sir are an idiot. Me not 'advocating any such behaviour' was when 'bigfatronssba' said that I am advocating stealing. Me supporting destabilisation of ACL is with a view to rent reduction and long term financial stability for the club. Two very different concepts. Just like making the...
  9. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    Me and me alone? So we're all but sold on the idea that i'm Tim Fisher/SISU employee? With all these conspiracy theories, I hope you go to bed wearing your tinfoil hat so the aliens can't read your mind!
  10. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    Fundamentally it appears that my point is being missed; SISU have been sub-standard to say the least, but the stadium situation only shows that CCC and ACL are not acting in the best interests of the club. The argument against seems to be dredging up years of SISU's mistakes. So I ask...
  11. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    I'm pretty sure the stadium problems were not 'new news', it's been alluded to, intimated, suggested and explicitly stated by SISU that FFP rules were going to cause problems in this respect. This wasn't a knee-jerk thing, and I can remember a quote in the CET - where ACL stated they would ONLY...
  12. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    Provided we are talking about Leon and not Jordan, I will indeed be back here! :-) I don't disagree with any of what you said. My point is that on the stadium debacle EXCLUSIVELY - SISU are doing precisely what they need to do to make sure the club doesn't go down the plughole. Why is this...
  13. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    So, what you're saying as far as I understand is; 'SISU can make decisions with the best interests of the club's long term survival and be held accountable by all, but a charity that supports a move against this should not be held accountable for it's business decisions because it is a charity'...
  14. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    The stadium is not exclusively owned by a charity. They have a share. Them hiding behind a charity, is like hiding behind your geeky friend punching people and expecting not to be punched back. I'm not advocating any such behaviour. ACL had a responsibility to the club (and it's...
  15. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    It's a game of politics. ACL are just as guilty of underhanded tactical-warfare. I support SISU's destabilisation of ACL for one reason - it's in the club's best interests to shock these people into cooperation. This is ALL about the club. Forget SISU.
  16. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    I'm ticked, but unsurprised by the responses. Everyone has their right to an opinion, only some people's are in my opinion very clouded. We were climbing the league. We'd captured decent loan signings. Signed one of the league's top strikers. We'd signed a decent loan LB on a permanent...
  17. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    The stadium is a community asset built in partnership with the club. No club, no point in having the stadium. And are people REALLY accusing me of being Tim Fisher? That's excellent, and downright stupid at the same time!
  18. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    14M will be repaid, only if the unlawful arrangement stands. If the agreement is terminated then CCC will only recover what the site sells for. And CCC forced the withdrawl of the club. They have control over the whole city - easiest way to circumvent that is to follow CCFC out of their grab...
  19. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    If they hadn't chalked it up as a loan then they wouldn't be the main creditor in this administration jazz - and we'd be completely at the mercy of ACL. They're writing a ton of it off under admin recovery proposals, so actually, I think my post was valid sir. They aren't looking to bleed the...
  20. just-here-4-coffee

    Wake up supporters - you are being conned!

    Thank-you chaps - Bottom line is, SISU haven't done a lot right during their time here. But to support the council in their underhanded efforts to prevent our club from capturing the one asset that would bring greatness again is psych-ward committal worthy.
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