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The man you would have met would be his Mum's partner, not his father but I take your point. The reason I asked was because his wife would have known for a fact that he hadn't been to Vegas so it would have been something of a plot thickener if she'd gone along with that particular lie. But if...

I do like an argument. And I do wipe my arse with £20 notes but that has more to do with a very specific psychosis..

Actually, one thing I did just want to ask. You mentioned he viewed the house with his wife and that his story was that he'd actually been to Vegas for the McGregor fight. Did he say this in front of her?

Horrendous.. and to be clear, I wouldn't include you or your wife in the "people believe what they want to believe" narrative. As I said in another post, no one has anything to gain by putting an offer in on a house they don't intend to buy so you would have had no reason to doubt it. Just very...

That's the thing though isn't. What has really given this story legs is that people perceive that these road blocks exist when they don't. As a consequence, a story that has got past those road blocks gets a validity attributed to it that's unwarranted. I've seen a number of posts on this forum...

Yeah, as I say. Just a bit thick at a guess. Although it was noticeable that every time someone who knew him did call him out on Facebook the post would be deleted and they were presumably blocked. So not sure it would have done much good. An estate agent doing their job and verifying the...

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I think he himself was probably surprised by how every door he pushed against seemed to open. "I've won £14million" is a pretty standard Dale lie. But then when he's gone to have a look at that house he's no doubt found himself confronted by a super impressed estate agent treating him like...

Agreed. But I don't think he will quietly and sincerely apologise and I don't think any action will be taken. I think everything he's got coming to him he's already had in the loss of access to his football club and his camaraderie with it's fans, which I know seems very soft when you're...

Because I don't think he will, Nick. I'm not close enough to the situation as it stands right now to say for certain but I wouldn't be surprised if he was still sticking to the story and coming up with ever more fantastical explanations for why a solicitor has said the email was a forgery. And...

Thanks, Otis. I'll forward it on but ultimately as you say it'll be up to them to force the issue and whether there's the motivation to do that I don't know. You know how people can be. "Thank god that's over. He must have learnt his lesson this time.."

But in practical terms, I don't ever seeing him accepting the issue to that extent. But yes, perhaps useful to his family as a resource.

Christ. If ever there was a Monty Python sketch waiting to happen.. It writes itself! But joking aside, how would you get him to engage? Don't see it..

I think you're probably right. But I don't think he needs help in a legal sense or diagnosable sense so I doubt he'll get it.

Yeah. I'd actually love to know what it is he showed Hoffman. I remember discussing this with someone at the time and the only conclusion I could come to was that Hoffman decided (wrongly) he didn't have much to lose. Either Dale had the money and so stroking his ego a little made the...

..and, more practically how do you make use of that fact. I don't think I could ring the NHS and get someone sectioned for an addition to lying. I doubt there's a designated rehab facility. So whether you or I call it an illness or not, what use is it?

..and that's what I said before. Mental Illness can often be subjective in terms of when do you label something as such. At what point do you stop being an asshole and start being a sociopath? Alcoholics consider themselves to have an illness so in that sense, yes I think this is an illness. I...

Yep, and I think he's been lucky to avoid any violence through this little saga. All I'm really saying is I don't think his wife could have envisaged such a thing when she took her son with him to look at a house. At this point it's still a relatively harmless "Dale Tale". Since then I think...

Absolutely. That house sale alone. I'm sure that's caused that chap no end of problems. But I don't see legal action because in my experience people won't go to the hassle and expense without something directly to gain for themselves. Stopping him from doing it to someone else won't motivate...

I wouldn't pretend to know much about his "mates". I don't socialise with him in that way. My take on them is that they're just a bit thick but who knows. As far as his family goes, I suppose they've let is go thus far because the lies have always been harmless. As far as getting him help for...