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Heard some of the most shocking things today at the game. A man a few rows in front of me was shouting "get the fuxking Niger off" at one of the west ham players (my 14 year Old brother told me this)...I then heard him scream and shout as said player is subbed....get that fuxking egg and spoon...

I was not stirring and like the football we play under him. I don't want thorn sacked. If he's a Good manager then the players need sorting. I have no inside info at the club as a rule. I was just passing on what I was told by someone at the club....just a fan who for once heard some shocking...

Exactly...I have never seen us play 'footbal' untill under thorn, was away for black era....I wasn't putting it on here for thorn out. Things are not right up and down the club.

As With Mumford, I don't claim to know anything about thorn leaving in any shape. And I personally have never booed or chanted for a manager to leave (barring being pissed up when Watford smashed us)...but players are apparently lacking respect for manager.......and it came across wrong in type...

Fair enough...like I say, not a regular poster, so not looking for bother like. I just could not believe my ears when hearing things...was just sharing why I know.

Don't know Mumford at all. But put both our 'rumours' together and things seem to make sense.

Only just read Other posts. Not rumour. Don't post often at all. Work in schools with the youth coaches is all!!!

Exactly mate. I cant actually say how I know...as me pals would be in the shit. But they told me exactly that...I thought till yesterday that thorn had respect and full support. What my mate told me, literally made my jaw drop. A very experienced former player of ours, who is still at the club...

Haven't been on in a few days, so may seem a bit like I'm jumping on a bandwagon...however...I am mates with a couple of the youth coaches at the club.and up until Tuesday was a fan of andy thorn....apparently mood on the training ground is as low as even under hoofroyd. Gael feels like the...

He played centre back and right back in the woodlands school team (housemate managed that year group)....thy had another player in that school team a lot better than Cyrus apparently...Jordy Graham, at the villa but is tipped as an England player

Not that it matters. But was at a wedding in the summer sat next to Dean emerson. Nice guy, bit before my time so was good to hear some of his banter about what went on in the 80's etc!!!!

Sorry bud. Last weds (work in school,so half term) or something was when told, about the week or so before. By all accounts it happened more then once. It makes you wonder what happens at clubs, like ours when the players have 'enough' of the management, such as under aidy this year?!?!?

First post so bare with me. A lad I work with is a coach of a couple of the city youth teams, and last week myself him, and a former villa European cup winner (who's son I teach "withe") had a chat which left me smiling so thought would share with fellow fans. By all accounts from the papers...