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DT-R

DT-R

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Samueljames1991 said:
Club owes him better than that given his current situation
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Ok, keep Jamie Allen then to save hurting his feelings and ship out Torp. Im pretty sure Allen has a lot more to offer the PL than Torp could anyway!

Get real! Whilst his situation is a bit shitty at present, for how long do we go? Keep him on indefinitely? If thats the case, at some point in every players life somebody they know died, so do we just keep them all? We'll amass the biggest squad ever known in footballing history, all because Clive Platts cat died in 2001 so we cant get rid!

Allen has been a great servant for the club, and i genuinely like the bloke. I think hes been very underused at times and has been very underrated, but we really do need to move on to bigger and better things. At only 30 hes got another good 3 or 4 seasons in him. If he was 3 or 4 years older id suggest putting him through his badges and get him on the coaching team. Always been the highest professional when training according to Frank Lampard. Still one of the hardest trainers in the squad, even though he knows hes more likely than not starting on the bench again!

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DT-R

DT-R

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Samueljames1991 said:
Bit of a c**t move though getting rid of a back up player who gives his all and going through personal problems just to sign an extra player we don't need

One that's been here for 7 seasons as well
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c**t move keeping him here, just to drop even further down the pecking order when better players arrive. Professional 30yo footballer playing in the U21s indefinitely rather than first team football at a L1 club, just to save his feelings?

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baldy

baldy

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DT-R said:
c**t move keeping him here, just to drop even further down the pecking order when better players arrive. Professional 30yo footballer playing in the U21s indefinitely rather than first team football at a L1 club, just to save his feelings?

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Yeah bit of an odd thing to say - unless it was Allen himself posting
 
RoboCCFC90

RoboCCFC90

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I don’t believe we will sign Gus, not sure that Sheffield United would sell him to us in truth and he would command a salary increase likely beyond what Doug is probably willing to pay.

That being said if we did manage to pull it off, it’s just what we need to kick us on and I couldn’t see us not getting promoted with Hamer pulling the strings in midfield.
 
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Samueljames1991

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DT-R said:
c**t move keeping him here, just to drop even further down the pecking order when better players arrive. Professional 30yo footballer playing in the U21s indefinitely rather than first team football at a L1 club, just to save his feelings?

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I'm just a sentimental twat especially when it comes to that leauge 1 winning team
 
FergieTheFinisher

FergieTheFinisher

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Cally Fedora said:
I think on the Hamer issue we’re skirting the main point. He’ll want a sack of cash each month that we can’t give him.
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I’m sure an agreeable deal could be structured in a way that doesn’t destroy our championship pay structure but gives a significant premier style increase after we have been promoted in a few months.

…or even a special bonus for each pound he looses over the next month. There would seem the opportunity for quite a payout for him 😀

To be honest I’m not 100% on bringing old heroes back, I much prefer to look forward than backwards.
 
Domo

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AFCCOVENTRY said:
We’re not going to sign Gus.
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Disbelief No GIF
 
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oneofourown

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Hamer shouldn't happen, the maximum he could do is help us get to the premier, then he is not good enough, so what's the point?

Allen, on the other hand, is a must in the dressing room. FL is a decent chap, not reflecting on his position or wealth, he is a guy I could have a drink with. Ryton training ground is the place of work and like all of us we want good colleagues. FL said that bringing in Esse and Minny was so that we have 22 players who can compete in training. Bidwell and Allen, and possibly Wilson are good professionals, good humans, (Bidwell is the reason we got Grimes) and friends for FL. He is not alone, he needs buddies and I know he has affection for Allen and Bidwell. When FL talks about this project he talks about 'being one of the best' and that's nothing to do with football, it's about the dynamics of the training ground and the personnel.

I am person who is always grateful and I am extremely grateful to this squad for giving us such enjoyment. I am grateful to all, not one or two. Everyone has an off day and they deserve it sometimes, but that doesn't make them bad people. As my Nan always said, be grateful for what you have, not for what you don't.
 
Sky Blue Goblin

Sky Blue Goblin

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oneofourown said:
Hamer shouldn't happen, the maximum he could do is help us get to the premier, then he is not good enough, so what's the point?

Allen, on the other hand, is a must in the dressing room. FL is a decent chap, not reflecting on his position or wealth, he is a guy I could have a drink with. Ryton training ground is the place of work and like all of us we want good colleagues. FL said that bringing in Esse and Minny was so that we have 22 players who can compete in training. Bidwell and Allen, and possibly Wilson are good professionals, good humans, (Bidwell is the reason we got Grimes) and friends for FL. He is not alone, he needs buddies and I know he has affection for Allen and Bidwell. When FL talks about this project he talks about 'being one of the best' and that's nothing to do with football, it's about the dynamics of the training ground and the personnel.

I am person who is always grateful and I am extremely grateful to this squad for giving us such enjoyment. I am grateful to all, not one or two. Everyone has an off day and they deserve it sometimes, but that doesn't make them bad people. As my Nan always said, be grateful for what you have, not for what you don't.
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On the Hamer point. As I agree on your points for Bidwell and Allen.

He’s had one season in the premiership with an awful United side and I think when you take that into consideration he did very well.

Depends on him but if he got fit, I think he could be a starter or around the team in the prem.

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Ccfcisparks

Ccfcisparks

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oneofourown said:
Hamer shouldn't happen, the maximum he could do is help us get to the premier, then he is not good enough, so what's the point?

Allen, on the other hand, is a must in the dressing room. FL is a decent chap, not reflecting on his position or wealth, he is a guy I could have a drink with. Ryton training ground is the place of work and like all of us we want good colleagues. FL said that bringing in Esse and Minny was so that we have 22 players who can compete in training. Bidwell and Allen, and possibly Wilson are good professionals, good humans, (Bidwell is the reason we got Grimes) and friends for FL. He is not alone, he needs buddies and I know he has affection for Allen and Bidwell. When FL talks about this project he talks about 'being one of the best' and that's nothing to do with football, it's about the dynamics of the training ground and the personnel.

I am person who is always grateful and I am extremely grateful to this squad for giving us such enjoyment. I am grateful to all, not one or two. Everyone has an off day and they deserve it sometimes, but that doesn't make them bad people. As my Nan always said, be grateful for what you have, not for what you don't.
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Why is he not good enough for the premier?

Allen or Bidwell wouldnt be good enough for the Premier so not sure on your point
 
David O'Day

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shmmeee said:
Hamer is six months younger than Frank the Tank and actually held down a place in a PL team and performed well.
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Onyenka would have likely been a starter in that SU team to be fair to him.

Why are you windmilling so early in the morning? Like a Bedworth Donald Trump.
 
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oneofourown

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Ccfcisparks said:
Why is he not good enough for the premier?

Allen or Bidwell wouldnt be good enough for the Premier so not sure on your point
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I talking about now, NOT the premier. If we re-signed Gus it needs to be an investment and is not a good one. NOW we have Allen and Bidwell and they are helping us to try and get to the premier, so we should not get rid of them. Of course they know that maybe the premier is too much for them but then if they stayed possibly they could both be part of FL training team, could Gus?
 
TomRad85

TomRad85

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shmmeee said:
Hamer is six months younger than Frank the Tank and actually held down a place in a PL team and performed well.
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Yeh because getting in that SU team was a real challenge. Come on man you're just windmilling these last few days.
 
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CovRes

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On Allen's future, if the opportunity came that would give him more playing time, and possibly bring him back nearer his family back in the north west, he may want to make the move.

Also with Bidwell, it may have changed but he was living in a flat in Solihull while his family stayed in south Wales. He was only getting home to them a few nights a week. A move may suit him as well.

If squad spaces allow, and they're happy to stay, I'd like to keep both of them as cover. But if offers come in for them they should be given the option to move on.
 
Ccfcisparks

Ccfcisparks

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oneofourown said:
I talking about now, NOT the premier. If we re-signed Gus it needs to be an investment and is not a good one. NOW we have Allen and Bidwell and they are helping us to try and get to the premier, so we should not get rid of them. Of course they know that maybe the premier is too much for them but then if they stayed possibly they could both be part of FL training team, could Gus?
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Gus is infinitely better than both Bidwell and Allen.
 
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