Ccfcisparks
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I haven't mentioned Bamford tbh.
25/26 January Transfer Window (19 Viewers)
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DT-R
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If im being honest, i no longer see BTA as a striker. Last season scored 4 in 38 appearances as a striker. This season scored 10 in 17 from LW/RW/10. I think Lampard, out of necessity, has stumbled upon BTA's best position. And i dont think its up front as a lone striker.
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Mucca Mad Boys
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No, but I’m struggling to see how we fit in a 4th striker. If someone goes, it changes the situation drastically.
David O'Day
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When he played as a "10" he was basically a 2nd striker
JSL
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Spot on
David O'Day
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mark82
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Didn't work that badly though. Saw our best form of the season.
JSL
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Possibly but the goals have dried up since
David O'Day
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AFCCOVENTRY
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Cov98
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Reminds me a lot of Conor Chaplin. Up front he was a bit pants but when he was dropped back a little and was more of a 2nd striker / shadow striker he started banging goals in.
Legia Sky Blue
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BTA isn't an out and out striker though. When he's fit and in the team he's usually playing with Simms or Wright. It has seemed to me that most promoted sides in recent seasons have had a depth of options up front. One more body gives us more leeway to ride the vagaries of form and injury. The upside of getting promotion is so great that getting another body in up front if we could bring a Wilson type player in seems like a no brainer to me. If its true that FL wanted to bring in Bamford then its likely that he would like another forward in the squad too.
Andy123456
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What was working really well with BTA in the side is the direct attitude he had when he picked up the ball, out of possession he was like a rat up a drain pipe closing the opposition down which led to us turning the ball over, Rudoni doesn't do that he just drifts out wide all of the time!!! Playing the lone Striker suited BTA and Cov City as it was pretty much playing with 2 strikers on the pitch, BTA's natural instinct to be in the right time at the right place (the striker in him) and sadly this can not be taught!!! I can't wait for him to be back!!
Mr Panda
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Yeah that anticipation he has is probably the thing I miss the most. You look back at highlights and sometimes he’s the only player out of both teams to be anticipating a loose ball in the box
SleepyGinger
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Is Dan Neil that good? Remember Sunderland fans moaning about him regularly, not sure he’d be a ‘marque signing’.
mmttww
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we spent £4m on a CM last Jan and £6m on Torp and EMC the Jan before. Buying good players in Jan is what we do these days, innit. Hope we repeat it.
JoshCCFC1987
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he’s a lot better than jamie allen who has played 25% of league minutes this season
SleepyGinger
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Is replacing our 5th choice midfielder going to make the difference though?
Trueskyblue20
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Most Sunderland fans I saw used to say he was the next big thing for England in central midfield.
Funny how after a year in the prem and now he’s irrelevant.
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AFCCOVENTRY
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Apparently this will be our marquee signing this window. Premiership get ready!
SkyBlueStallion_89
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Looks like it's a well supported club.
Mucca Mad Boys
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What do you mean he’s not an out and out striker? He’s been playing as a striker since he joined WBA. It’s only because we have had 2 wingers since Lampard joined.
Now you have 4 wingers, we’re probably going to see less and less of BTA out wide. Personally, I’d play 4-4-2 more when we’re in need of a goal.
People need to drop the notion that BTA was playing as a 10, we were playing 4-4-2.
Legia Sky Blue
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Not sure I agree with you but if we are going to play 2 up front then there's even more reason to sign a 4th forward.
Balli001
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He was playing as a 10 that's why we are saying it.
Mucca Mad Boys
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How would you describe his role? Playing as a 10 doesn’t really explain anything.
After all, Rudoni plays ‘as a 10’ but the two play said role very differently. Our defensive shape is a 4-4-2 and in attack, it’s fluid. It’s also pretty normal for a 4-4-2 to have 1 striker who plays more advanced and the other deeper.
BTA’s underlying data tells all and it’s consistent with a striker than an attacking midfielder. The heat map would probably show the same.
Skyblue Bangkok
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I remember the days when it was so much simpler , defender,full back,midfielder, wide player ,striker now it's no 6,8,10, lol there again I am an old git.
Mucca Mad Boys
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It does slightly irritate me when non-coaches use ‘4’, ‘6’, ‘8’ or ‘10’ to describe those central positions. There are several roles that fits in those descriptions. I imagine the coaches have laid out exactly what they mean by these terms to the players on the training ground.
For example, when we played Luton in the EFL Cup v Luton, we played 4-4-2 with Haji and Simms up front. Simms being a focal point and Haji with a free role and expected to support the midfield more than Simms was. Was he operating as an AM? No, of course not. So not sure why BTA is rebranded as an AM when he more or less performed the same role as described with relation to Haji with Simms.
Skybluedownunder
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Skyblue Bangkok
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Manneh from heaven
4-2-4 was always the winner for me!
Just bloody great.
Cally Fedora
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It still is simple. Those positions are essentially made up by “elite tacticians”.