Surely in the interests of accuracy you should point out that there are indeed media people who think the situation has become overblown? I’m sure the Jeremy Vine show is very interesting though.
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Sick Boy
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It's pretty obvious what the intent was but editing the speech in that way was wrong and gives credence to his claims about fake news.
Brighton Sky Blue
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How so?
Sick Boy
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He can provide evidence where a speech of his has been edited to make it appear as though he said something that he didn't actually say.
Brighton Sky Blue
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What didn’t he actually say?
Exactly, someone couldn’t help themselves though. Everyone could tell the gist of what he was trying to do, whip up fury and unrest (all because his narcissism couldn’t accept defeat). But to remove “peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard” and march to “cheer on our brave congressmen and women” and put in the words “fight like hell” takes the narrative up another notch and whoever produced it would’ve known that.
A news related programme should just let the audience decide/form their own view, not unequivocally tell them the narrative they want them to follow. People get spoon fed opinions and clipped videos without context from press and social media constantly, some might prefer that as it works well in a world of echo chambers/ confirmation bias, but the BBC should be better than that and if they want to survive in their current form, they’ve got to be. I personally hope they can survive even if I hardly watch terrestrial tv these days
Brighton Sky Blue
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Let’s be honest, this is a man recorded as having told 36,000 lies in his first term alone. That he’s suddenly getting precious because of being broadcast saying words he said is typical of the man.
If you can point me towards a more impartial news organisation in this country I’d love to see one. It’s a very hard job covering someone like him without being accused of bias in the first place.
chiefdave
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He posts AI generated content on the official presidential social media accounts.
We all know how thin skinned Trump is and he will use any leverage possible to apply pressure to get his way, so why put yourselves in that position to start with ? It was done intentionally by someone that probably thought it was the right thing to do. As has been mentioned elsewhere it was totally unnecessary though as the facts/words were already there. Let the viewer decide on those, there was no need to make up a new sentence to try to make it sound even worse
The BBC/BBC world news disappearing would be a big loss, as they’re probably best of a bad bunch, that’s why they need to be better.
Sky Blue Pete
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BBC has to be above and beyond reproach
mmttww
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which I get, but when you see it being torn to bits vs. a convicted criminal who glorifies sexual assault and shows daily that he's a pathological liar, it all feels a bit upside down.
Sky Blue Pete
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It is and it’s completely unfair but it’s still the case
It’s like the church you can say we failed here and failed there but it should be above and beyond reproach. Life isn’t that easy though
chiefdave
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Well at least he's not doing something completely mental like demanding $1bn compensation
SkyBlueMatt
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I've seen the clips side by side on HIGNFY and it's not good. It's the kind of reporting that's expected from GB News or The Daily Heil, it is misleading and the BBC should be better.
Trump is a terrible human and unfit to be president, the sh*t he spouts is bad enough. There is no need to try to mislead and make it more reactionary.
Trump is a terrible human and unfit to be president, the sh*t he spouts is bad enough. There is no need to try to mislead and make it more reactionary.
Captain Dart
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Grendel
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Ok let’s get into the detail here. Has Trump been found guilty of incitement to violence?
skybluetony176
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State your name didn’t go down well at the football
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US president Donald Trump was furiously booed as he stepped out at at NFL game between the Washington Commanders and Detroit Lions
fernandopartridge
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Completely stupid of the BBC. It is quite clear that the BBC employs people in senior positions who are actively working against it.
How about their coverage of The Palestine or non coverage of lsreal's genocide.
eastwoodsdustman
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The BBC is and has been politically biased for at least the last 35 years.
Yes, they had to cut the speech but could and should have done it in a better way. The Orange idiot clearly wanted to incite violence and an insurrection with the speech the ‘cheer on out brave senators’ line was definitely double edged but that doesn’t justify what they did.
It comes down to trust on what they are broadcasting and this incident does erode that trust a little more in much the same way as it has with the way that they have portrayed Brexit, covid and it’s fallout, Israel’s behaviour etc etc.
Its a slippery slope and needs people in there to install a straight bat mentality with their reporting whether the staff agree with it or not.
Yes, they had to cut the speech but could and should have done it in a better way. The Orange idiot clearly wanted to incite violence and an insurrection with the speech the ‘cheer on out brave senators’ line was definitely double edged but that doesn’t justify what they did.
It comes down to trust on what they are broadcasting and this incident does erode that trust a little more in much the same way as it has with the way that they have portrayed Brexit, covid and it’s fallout, Israel’s behaviour etc etc.
Its a slippery slope and needs people in there to install a straight bat mentality with their reporting whether the staff agree with it or not.
chiefdave
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In what way?
SkyBlueMatt
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My post was only focused on how they edited Trumps speech. Their inability to cover the genocide of Palestinians or their bias towards Israel is a completely different discussion. One topic that I now shy away from because all it does is anger me.
The irony is that the Prescott memo includes claims of much more widespread and serious malpractice going on at BBC Arabic in terms of their coverage of the October 7 attacks, but they appear to have got a fraction of the coverage from the rest of the media. A Trump soundbite that didn’t include enough white flashes has been deemed to be far more important.
Brighton Sky Blue
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chiefdave
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Some incredible stuff coming out. Fascinating to watch how people are responding to this compared to other instances when news channels have had to issue corrections.
John Simpson reporting. "Donald Trump’s demand for a billion dollars from the BBC comes from a local Florida law firm. It was sent to the wrong address, and the writer didn’t know what ‘salacious’ really means: ‘Due to their salacious nature, the fabricated statements that were aired by the BBC…'"
Also if you look at payouts in this country he'd be lucky to get £200K if he won, although Peston reports legal advice given to the BBC is Trump's case has no chance of success.
Brighton Sky Blue
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He’s filed loads of lawsuits against media organisations, both as a form of intimidation of the press, and to enrich himself through the presidency. The former is blatant authoritarianism. The ‘settlements’ are in effect bribes paid by the organisations for him to leave them alone and broadcast what he wants.
Genuinely, there are people who will see no problem with that on here just because it’s him doing it. FOX favourably edited an interview where he hesitated on wanting to release the Epstein files, then he sued someone else for the way they edited a Kamala Harris interview.
Fascist piece of shit he is.
mmttww
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Brighton Sky Blue
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In the interests of impartiality, and despite the fact that apparently no-one in the media believes this crisis has been overblown, I thought Lewis Goodall’s perspective on it all was interesting
goodallandgoodluck.substack.com
The truth about impartiality at the BBC
And the hysteria of the current "crisis"
goodallandgoodluck.substack.com