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Yesterday someone was interviewed and said he’d spent the £75 he was given as he’d took a train and was seen buying food

Why did have £75 given to him anyway?
 
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Yesterday someone was interviewed and said he’d spent the £75 he was given as he’d took a train and was seen buying food

Why did have £75 given to him anyway?
Fucking comical 😆 "Here you go Mr Rapist that shouldn't even be here anyway, we're going to open the door, here's £75, see how far you can get." Like a reality show ffs.
 

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Yesterday someone was interviewed and said he’d spent the £75 he was given as he’d took a train and was seen buying food

Why did have £75 given to him anyway?

I understand why released prisoners get some pocket money to start them off, but it does make you question how much that migrant who got returned in the 'one in one out' scheme got given, and how much of that went straight to the people smugglers to bring him back again.

The incompetence of the UK at the moment is genuinely quite unbelievable.
 
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It's not even difficult to get sorted, get a squad of immigration coppers down outside the KFC on the Burgess and I bet you'd catch shit loads. Seize all assets/funds and send them on the next flight home.
I personally have my doubts that people want to see this kind of stuff (as we’ve seen in the US) in this country.
 
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Yesterday someone was interviewed and said he’d spent the £75 he was given as he’d took a train and was seen buying food

Why did have £75 given to him anyway?
Wouldn’t have lasted him long in Dalston these days!

I suppose a case of mistaken identity might explain why he was both released and given the money. Unless it was just the prison giving him access to his own funds again?
 

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You think prisoners should just be turfed out and told to get on with it?
mmmmm
Wonder why reoffending rates are off the chart
Maybe people should try and get an understanding of the wider issue rather than just surmised or repeat rhetoric.

I have done some work with this charity in London who support offenders when they are released. The personal stories are insightful, heartbreaking but also the success that charities like St Giles achieve save lives and wider the tax payer millions in the long term.

have a read or even better get involved.

 

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Maybe people should try and get an understanding of the wider issue rather than just surmised or repeat rhetoric.

I have done some work with this charity in London who support offenders when they are released. The personal stories are insightful, heartbreaking but also the success that charities like St Giles achieve save lives and wider the tax payer millions in the long term.

have a read or even better get involved.

That’s great work mate
Good for you
 
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Fucking comical 😆 "Here you go Mr Rapist that shouldn't even be here anyway, we're going to open the door, here's £75, see how far you can get." Like a reality show ffs.

It was like an episode of Hunted
 

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There were two world wars fought last century for lesser reasons.
I think the promotion celebration bus may well stay parked in the garage although for different reasons offered on a recently created 'controversial' thread.
Still, every (mushroom) cloud - All you top loyalty point holders will no doubt pull a cushy desk job back here in blighty.

He’s been caught!
Allegedly off again - This time on a genuine technicality as the apprehending officer didn’t say ‘tig’ when he grabbed him.
 

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I’m very interested to know why it did happen at all in all seriousness.
It was an admin error. He was supposed to be getting deported and somebody fucked up the paperwork.

Apparently there is a new process being put in place from tomorrow to stop this happening but as with so many things you look at the number of times this has happened and wonder why nothing was done before.
 

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I personally have my doubts that people want to see this kind of stuff (as we’ve seen in the US) in this country.
We have it already, our version is the Immigration Compliance and Enforcement team. But unlike the US ICE the aren't allowed to grab people off the street with little more than the colour of their skin as the reason.

The number of raids they do has been massively increased, up 50%, and in line with that the number of arrests has increased 75% but now here's where you'll see the problem. The new, increased, numbers equate to around 800 raids leading to around 600 arrests. It's a drop in the ocean, no pun intended.

Then you've got the issue that it's not as simple as rounding people up and deporting them.
 
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We have it already, our version is the Immigration Compliance and Enforcement team. But unlike the US ICE the aren't allowed to grab people off the street with little more than the colour of their skin as the reason.
Reform will no doubt insist on copying the current US Republican strategy - they do for everything else - but I don’t think either Reform or the general British public truly appreciate how ugly and violent (and expensive!) it has to get for it to be properly enforced.
 

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and of course the old favourite
The report said the contracts drawn up for accommodation providers under the Conservatives had been flawed and that "inadequate oversight" had meant failings went "unnoticed and unaddressed".

Expected costs for hotel contracts from 2019-2029 have risen from £4.5bn to £15.3bn, while two accommodation providers still owe millions in excess profits that the Home Office has not recovered, the report found.
 
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Shoot the dinghys 100 yards from France and chuck them life jackets. They'll swim back 100 yards rather than forwards 26 miles.
I think France might have something to say about us shooting at boats in their waters.

And I think we might have some questions to answer at the ICC when at least some of those on the boats inevitably die.
 
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and of course the old favourite

The home office hasn’t been fit for purpose for 20+ years. In any other organisation there’d have been a massive clear out. Read this last week


The culture across the board just sounds wrong to me and I get the impression the HO just does what they want rather than what the government, who were democratically voted in, have promised/trying to deliver.
 

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The home office hasn’t been fit for purpose for 20+ years. In any other organisation there’d have been a massive clear out. Read this last week


The culture across the board just sounds wrong to me and I get the impression the HO just does what they want rather than what the government, who were democratically voted in, have promised/trying to deliver.
It is easy and convenient to blame people who don’t have the right of reply though isn’t it?
 
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Yesterday someone was interviewed and said he’d spent the £75 he was given as he’d took a train and was seen buying food

Why did have £75 given to him anyway?
Keep the economy ticking doesn't it?
 

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As someone alluded to above, the mistaken prisoner released numbers are mental. (Source)

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How on earth does that happen? The almost exponential growth is amazing, be interesting to see if it has grown as a proportion of the total number released or whether it just looks inflated because a lot more prisoners were released 24/25 in the early release scheme.
 

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As opposed to having £75, spending it, and then committing further crime ;)
 

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But it wouldn't be a necessity, would it?
But they're released onto the street with no accommodation, i'd have thought a roof and a meal for a period of time until they can adjust to be more useful. Such an odd figure to come up with. Could be £1,000 and still not enough not to commit crime but I don't know the science behind why £75 and not £50 or £100. If they're going to be the type that goes back to crime, then I'm not sure £75 makes a difference at all.
 
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For many years, until it eventually closed, my wife and I volunteered at weekends for a charity which provided hot meals and companionship to the homeless and poorly housed. At least a third - and probably closer to half - of our clients were newly-released prisoners.

It seemed to me that most of them had a genuine desire to go straight but it was difficult, because of their criminal record, to get employment. That's why I respect Timpsons, who have a good track record for helping offenders to rehabilitate themselves.
 
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Took a lot of searching on BBC News for this one, lots of sub sections to find it from main page :

 
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