Recruitment (15 Viewers)

SleepyGinger

Well-Known Member
Dean Austin has taken some stick on here but I think overall the recruitment has been very good since he came in. Even the likes of Kitching and Asante are starting to look like good value signings. especially when you look at some of the dross going for big money in the championship at the moment.
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
Dean Austin has taken some stick on here but I think overall the recruitment has been very good since he came in. Even the likes of Kitching and Asante are starting to look like good value signings. especially when you look at some of the dross going for big money in the championship at the moment.
Our recruitment compared to Birminghams overhyped recruitment is night and day. You're going to get 1 or 2 duds but overall Austin has done well.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
Think we needed to move on Bidwell and Allen and bring in cover in the wide areas

Rushworth looks excellent and kkh and woolfenden haven’t had a look in because Kitching Thomas and mve have raised their games
 

Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
Birmingham have enough there for a solid mid table side, which is still where I think they’ll end up. The problem for them was our first 11 is a level above that.
 

SAJ

Well-Known Member
Can we really even suggest Simms is a dud? I don’t think so and the stats certainly would question it.
Looking at our strikers since we came back to the Championship.
Godden played 7618 minutes scored 36 goals at a rate of 1 goal per 211 minutes take the penalties out 1 every 238 minutes.
Gyokeres 8817 minutes 43 goals 1 every 205 minutes take the penalties out 1 every 226 minutes.
Wright 6303 minutes 37 goals 1 every 170 minutes minus penalties 1 every 210 minutes.
Simms 5839 minutes 27 goals 1 every 216 minutes no pens scored.
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
Think we needed to move on Bidwell and Allen and bring in cover in the wide areas

Rushworth looks excellent and kkh and woolfenden haven’t had a look in because Kitching Thomas and mve have raised their games
Allen is the weaker of the 2. When he came on yesterday he looked lightweight. No doubt others have a different take on him but I’d be open to him moving on in January.
 

ccfc1234

Well-Known Member
Allen is the weaker of the 2. When he came on yesterday he looked lightweight. No doubt others have a different take on him but I’d be open to him moving on in January.
I think I did see it differently, when he came on he was neat and tidy and played it simple keeing the possession and flow of attacks up. Hard to judge a player against 10 men tbf. Do you recall in what moments he looked lightweight yesterday?
 

steve101

Well-Known Member
Think we needed to move on Bidwell and Allen and bring in cover in the wide areas

Rushworth looks excellent and kkh and woolfenden haven’t had a look in because Kitching Thomas and mve have raised their games
I don't think we needed to move Bidwell and Allen on this year - both decent squad players. Bidwell can cover at centre back if required, which may be needed over the season, and Allen provides good energy from the bench and rarely lets us down, as was the case yesterday.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
I don't think we needed to move Bidwell and Allen on this year - both decent squad players. Bidwell can cover at centre back if required, which may be needed over the season, and Allen provides good energy from the bench and rarely lets us down, as was the case yesterday.

At the moment he’s second choice LB
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
Harsh. He’s better than you say. He certainly looked strong yesterday after he came on.
Kyogo? Looked miles out of his depth. Gave it away literally every time he touched it & his 'first touch' was worse than anything we've ever seen from Simms. The fact he's 30 & couldn't even make the matchday squad towards the end of his time in France was a huge red flag at gambling £10m on him but Brum have more money than sense. There's possibly a player in there but he's got an awful lot of work to do to get up to the speed of this league. Scoring goals in a pub league proves very little.
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
Can we really even suggest Simms is a dud? I don’t think so and the stats certainly would question it.
Looking at our strikers since we came back to the Championship.
Godden played 7618 minutes scored 36 goals at a rate of 1 goal per 211 minutes take the penalties out 1 every 238 minutes.
Gyokeres 8817 minutes 43 goals 1 every 205 minutes take the penalties out 1 every 226 minutes.
Wright 6303 minutes 37 goals 1 every 170 minutes minus penalties 1 every 210 minutes.
Simms 5839 minutes 27 goals 1 every 216 minutes no pens scored.
All the strikers have scored reasonably consistently, except Simms who had an all to brief purple patch which has skewed his stats somewhat.

There's also been times when he's been accused of not giving 100%, and he has definitely passed up an awful lot of easy chances to score, like yesterday when clean through, he used his strength well enough to hold the defender off but his final effort was absolutely pathetic, fortunately Torp was on hand to do the job properly.
If Gyokeres was running through on goal like Simms was you'd put your house on him busting the net.

In short there's a reason Simms is third choice out of 3 strikers, and with BTA having 3 goals to his name despite being played out of position, I cant see Simms getting a start any time soon.

Ideally he'd move on in January but I doubt there would be a long queue of takers, which means he will probably run down his contract before moving on.

But ..... (there's always a but)
His purple patch did contribute to our playoff push, and he was part of the F.A cup run that should of seen us get to the final, so I wouldn't call him a complete dud, but I would say he needs a new challenge, probably at a team that plays 2 big centre forwards which would suit his game better.
 
Last edited:

DT-R

Well-Known Member
Allen is the weaker of the 2. When he came on yesterday he looked lightweight. No doubt others have a different take on him but I’d be open to him moving on in January.
Allen is a strange one. When Allen has a good game, he's the best player on the pitch. Look how he dictated that Sunderland 3-0 game. When he plays like that, he could even keep Grimes out the starting 11. It's just a shame that those games are once in a blue moon.

He certainly does have it in him to change a game from the bench. He's just not likely to be able to do it very often.

Good squad player for a championship team, but we really need the next level to be able to get to and compete at the next level.

The same goes for Lati, Bidwell, Wilson, and you could probably put Eccles in there, too! All great servants. All will do a job. But we're talking about promotion and survival in the prem. We will need players in our starting XI on the bench (quality wise) and even better on the pitch.

Sent from my SM-S711B using Tapatalk
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
Allen is a strange one. When Allen has a good game, he's the best player on the pitch. Look how he dictated that Sunderland 3-0 game. When he plays like that, he could even keep Grimes out the starting 11. It's just a shame that those games are once in a blue moon.

He certainly does have it in him to change a game from the bench. He's just not likely to be able to do it very often.

Good squad player for a championship team, but we really need the next level to be able to get to and compete at the next level.

The same goes for Lati, Bidwell, Wilson, and you could probably put Eccles in there, too! All great servants. All will do a job. But we're talking about promotion and survival in the prem. We will need players in our starting XI on the bench (quality wise) and even better on the pitch.

Sent from my SM-S711B using Tapatalk
There is absolutely no scenario in which Lampard ever keeps Grimes out the team for Allen.
 

DT-R

Well-Known Member
There is absolutely no scenario in which Lampard ever keeps Grimes out the team for Allen.
I never suggested he would. He's far too inconsistent. This is why I said that if he could make his 1 in 30 outstanding games become a 25 in 30 and be a LOT more consistent, he'd be up there with the best CM in the league. However, he doesn't, which is why he's on the bench and has been since he's been at the club!

Sent from my SM-S711B using Tapatalk
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Top