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Sick Boy · Sep 11, 2025

bigfatronssba said:
It’s not about keeping it or getting rid of it.

It’s about reforming it. Any time someone tries to change it they get accused of wanting to privatise it

There why were there no reforms under a right wing government over the last 14 years?

David O'Day · Sep 11, 2025

Sick Boy said:
There why were there no reforms under a right wing government over the last 14 years?

Because you know the left who had no actual power during those 14 years, it's all their fault.

SkyBlueDom26 · Sep 11, 2025

David O'Day said:
I've said he shouldn't have been shot you thick c**t.

No one is laughing about it, why are you just making things up to create drama on a forum?

If you have a personal problem with me then have a word on Saturday.

And it's Matthew David Patrick Anthony O'Dea to you Domonic

Fucking hell calm down a bit, and it’s Dominic not Domonic. What did you make of the @skybluetony176 post then? That was ridiculous, I hardly think trump would have been happy about it

mmttww · Sep 11, 2025

bigfatronssba said:
any attempts to do that are branded as privatisation

You move the goalposts a lot. I think it's patronising to say that people can't tell reform from privatisation. You said two groups think the same, I think that's wide of the mark. One ignores evidence, one tends to use evidence as the basis for their positions.

bigfatronssba · Sep 11, 2025

Sick Boy said:
There why were there no reforms under a right wing government over the last 14 years?

I’d hardly call it a right wing govt, but yes. Any reforms didn’t go far enough

bigfatronssba · Sep 11, 2025

mmttww said:
You move the goalposts a lot. I think it's patronising to say that people can't tell reform from privatisation. You said two groups think the same, I think that's wide of the mark. One ignores evidence, one tends to use evidence as the basis for their positions.

This comes across as a classic example of “my side of the divide is always right”

bigfatronssba · Sep 11, 2025

David O'Day said:
Because you know the left who had no actual power during those 14 years, it's all their fault.

Oh well, at least we’re getting massive NHS reforms now…..

David O'Day · Sep 11, 2025

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Fucking hell calm down a bit, and it’s Dominic not Domonic. What did you make of the @skybluetony176 post then? That was ridiculous, I hardly think trump would have been happy about it

It was out of order just but it's clearly personal as I have said nothing against Charlie Kirk and yet it is me you decide to have a pop at and call edgy. Sorry but that is how it looks. Tony's post is in another thread though so not sure why you decided to go off on one in this thread about me.

SkyBlueDom26 · Sep 11, 2025

David O'Day said:
It was out of order just but it's clearly personal as I have said nothing against Charlie Kirk and yet it is me you decide to have a pop at and call edgy. Sorry but that is how it looks. Tony's post is in another thread though so not sure why you decided to go off on one in this thread about me.

Mad situation in general, tensions are just high I guess. What do you think will come from all of this?

mmttww · Sep 11, 2025

bigfatronssba said:
“my side of the divide is always right”

You used example of things being the same. I don't think they are and I explained why. If you read that as claiming to always be right, crack on.

SkyBlueDom26 · Sep 11, 2025

Wonder how long it will take to find the killer, have seen a few videos of someone on the roof running

David O'Day · Sep 11, 2025

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Mad situation in general, tensions are just high I guess. What do you think will come from all of this?

nothing, it's sadly not even the first political shootings this year

bigfatronssba · Sep 11, 2025

David O'Day said:
It was out of order just but it's clearly personal as I have said nothing against Charlie Kirk and yet it is me you decide to have a pop at and call edgy. Sorry but that is how it looks. Tony's post is in another thread though so not sure why you decided to go off on one in this thread about me.

If I said anything untoward against you then I apologise.
I came on here last night straight from twitter, where the most disgusting things were being said

Ccfcisparks · Sep 11, 2025

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Wonder how long it will take to find the killer, have seen a few videos of someone on the roof running

I find it crazy that they haven't identified yet. Someone suggested that guy who was arrested was just a distraction.

It all seems very professional. 1 bullet, from a heavy duty rifle from some saying 300m away.

SkyBlueDom26 · Sep 11, 2025

David O'Day said:
nothing, it's sadly not even the first political shootings this year

It’s got to be a professional hit surely, the accuracy of that shot in the moment. Whoever did it was clearly trained in some capacity….i reckon a sniper too

David O'Day · Sep 11, 2025

SkyBlueDom26 said:
It’s got to be a professional hit surely, the accuracy of that shot in the moment. Whoever did it was clearly trained in some capacity….i reckon a sniper too

Doesn't have to be, sadly in the US you can by yourself a long range rifle easily and practice to your hearts content.

Or it could just be someone who has been in the US forces in the past.

KenilworthSkyBlue · Sep 11, 2025

SkyBlueDom26 said:
It’s got to be a professional hit surely, the accuracy of that shot in the moment. Whoever did it was clearly trained in some capacity….i reckon a sniper too

Not necessarily. The Trump shooter Thomas Crooks clipped him firing shots from 400-500 feet away. He was a 20 year old kitchen worker with zero military background.

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon · Sep 11, 2025

David O'Day said:
Doesn't have to be, sadly in the US you can by yourself a long range rifle easily and practice to your hearts content.

Or it could just be someone who has been in the US forces in the past.

I know they havn't got to the bottom of it yet but i saw something on the BBC suggesting that if the shooter was on the roof where footage had suggested they might be that was only 150 yards away. I'm no marksman but that sounds like really close range, particularly in a country where you can freely practice with those sorts of weapons.

David O'Day · Sep 11, 2025

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Not necessarily. The Trump shooter Thomas Crooks clipped him firing shots from 400-500 feet away. He was 20 year old kitchen worker with zero military background.

yeah, you can probably learn the basics of sniping on the internet these days

David O'Day · Sep 11, 2025

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon said:
I know they havn't got to the bottom of it yet but i saw something on the BBC suggesting that if the shooter was on the roof where footage had suggested they might be that was only 150 yards away. I'm no marksman but that sounds like really close range, particularly in a country where you can freely practice with those sorts of weapons.

Some Benchrest shooting comps are over 900m ranges so 150 feet is pretty close.

Olympic Archery is 90m ranges

PVA · Sep 11, 2025

bigfatronssba said:
If I said anything untoward against you then I apologise.
I came on here last night straight from twitter, where the most disgusting things were being said

You really need to make up your mind whether you're OK with people saying whatever they want.

pusbccfc · Sep 11, 2025

bigfatronssba said:
The American right act with guns the same way that the British left act with the NHS.

Any attempt at reforming it is a complete no go

Most of both sides want to keep the NHS.

Many on both sides in America still want the guns too.

KenilworthSkyBlue · Sep 11, 2025

David O'Day said:
yeah, you can probably learn the basics of sniping on the internet these days

He or she may not have been local to the area. But to put it into perspective within roughly a 20 mile radius of Orem, Utah - where Kirk was shot - there are 7 gun ranges and maybe a handful of driving ranges / courses.

So basically in terms of access to facilities it'd probably be easier to become a good shot than would be to become half decent at golf for instance.

Marty · Sep 11, 2025

I wouldn't necessarily say it needs to be a pro or specialist trained. I've shot guns on my travels to other countries and you get fairly accurate fairly quickly. A few afternoons at the range would make that shot.

David O'Day · Sep 11, 2025

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
He or she may not have been local to the area. But to put it into perspective within roughly a 20 mile radius of Orem, Utah - where Kirk was shot - there are 7 gun ranges and maybe a handful of driving ranges / courses.

So basically in terms of access to facilities it'd probably be easier to become a good shot than would be to become half decent at golf for instance.

mad innit

Ccfcisparks · Sep 11, 2025

David Icke airing some interesting opinions on twitter

SkyBlueDom26 · Sep 11, 2025

Marty said:
I wouldn't necessarily say it needs to be a pro or specialist trained. I've shot guns on my travels to other countries and you get fairly accurate fairly quickly. A few afternoons at the range would make that shot.

I did the shooting range in Poland, was really good. It’s actually mad how heavy the guns are, you need some decent strength to be able to shoot themc

SkyBlueDom26 · Sep 11, 2025

David O'Day said:
Doesn't have to be, sadly in the US you can by yourself a long range rifle easily and practice to your hearts content.

Or it could just be someone who has been in the US forces in the past.

All a bit mad, wonder how long it will take to find the killer

Ccfcisparks · Sep 11, 2025

SkyBlueDom26 said:
I did the shooting range in Poland, was really good. It’s actually mad how heavy the guns are, you need some decent strength to be able to shoot themc

I did the gun range in Krakow too. Bloke in the back of a white van took us into the middle of the woods. Shot an AK47 and I agree was hard to control.

SomersetSB · Sep 11, 2025

I think we need Harry Callahan to find him and deal with him!!

Evo1883 · Sep 11, 2025

To be that accurate at 2-300 metres requires a fair bit of training tbh

Ccfcisparks · Sep 11, 2025

Evo1883 said:
To be that accurate at 2-300 metres requires a fair bit of training tbh

I've seen a fair few videos of Kirk talking outwardly being critical of Israel. It all seems very fishy.

Evo1883 · Sep 11, 2025

Ccfcisparks said:
I've seen a fair few videos of Kirk talking outwardly being critical of Israel. It all seems very fishy.

Seems a professional hit job to me

KenilworthSkyBlue · Sep 11, 2025

Ccfcisparks said:
I've seen a fair few videos of Kirk talking outwardly being critical of Israel. It all seems very fishy.

Huh??? He's probably one of their biggest advocates on US soil....

Ccfcisparks · Sep 11, 2025

Evo1883 said:
Seems a professional hit job to me

Thats what I think. The old guy ranting and raving was merely a distraction.

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