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Brighton Sky Blue

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Mucca Mad Boys said:
Which is reasonable as that’s the only speech that can cause “harm”.

The people defending this with the line ‘it’s the law’ seem to not identify that the problem is the laws themself. They could easily be weaponised to prosecute people in other ways.
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I would say death threats or wishing death or violence on specific people falls into that category too, I suppose it depends on how much of a free speech absolutist someone is.
 
Grendel

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
I would say death threats or wishing death or violence on specific people falls into that category too, I suppose it depends on how much of a free speech absolutist someone is.
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Death threats against JK Rowling have not amounted to any actual custodial sentences have they?
 
duffer

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Mucca Mad Boys said:
I’d wait until this has played out properly because Lucy Connolly is supposedly considering legal action against the police. The jist of it being that a) the misrepresented what she said to the CPS and b) manipulated her into pleading guilty. A police corruption unit is investigating statements she made. All that aside, it’s obvious that some of the sentences dished out to protesters last summer were disproportionately harsh. Again, compare that to some of the things chanted and disorder at pro-Palestine demos too. Starmer politically wanted to nip the disorder in the butt and show she was ‘tough’ in the face of the protest

Pete, Tony, a 31 month sentence for a deleted tweet (however distasteful) should not outrank violent crime. At the same time, this Labour government was responsible for releasing seasoned criminals early and new criminals convicted actual violent crimes given more lenient sentence is ridiculous to most people.


He hasn't been charged yet, so no.


Who was the tweet aimed at? No one specifically. It was an unfunny joke. Using your own logic, anyone who says 'punch a fascist in the face' would also constitute incitement. This, of course, would be ridiculous and a curtailment of free speech.

The man hasn't been charged with an offence (yet) so as of right now, there is no crime to answer for. What I would say, you may champion this example but the law its current form could be flipped and used against you. For example, should the police arrest the hundreds of people tweeting violent threats to JK Rowling (or anyone)?
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Again, you're mistaking your opinion for the law. Incitement to violence is against the law. Whether you think the law is correct or not is academic, the police have a duty to enforce it. If I called for someone to be assaulted, and it was a credible threat, then I couldn't complain if I was arrested. That's the law, it's very simple.

The tweet was aimed specifically at trans women. Specifically. Read it again. And then read his history on this issue. He is rabidly and persistently and publicly anti-trans. Then consider his lack of apology for it. So "unfunny joke", I don't think so, that's just a coward's way of trying to weasel out of it, imho, but the court can decide. It met the standard for arrest.

If you don't want to be arrested, don't advocate for violence would seen to be the sensible approach. Does that restrict your free speech in any way?

And this "oh they're appealing so they're not guilty" is a wilful misunderstanding. Connolly was found guilty. She called for the burning of hotels where there were immigrants, and admitted to being a racist. She did it at a time of very serious disorder, which I suspect was an aggravating factor.

She appealed, and lost her appeal. You might think the sentence was harsh, I'm not sure I'd agree, she quite literally called for a large number of people to be burnt to death when a significant number of people were clearly intent on trying to do exactly that.

Either way, same story, don't want to go to jail, don't tweet racist calls to kill people in the middle of racist rioting. It's hardly unreasonable.

Why she's become a hero to some people says more about them than perhaps you realise.
 
SkyBlueCharlie9

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SkyBlueDom26 said:
Calls me a nonce fanboy for things in the media that have no evidence yet doesn’t want women to have safe spaces and men in women’s toilets. Hahahaha fucking hell that’s so weird
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You have displayed mysoginist behaviour many times on here.... so why would you want safe spaces for women all of a sudden?
(Before you jump on it in your usual wumming style, and allege otherwise, I think these spaces are important)
 
Mucca Mad Boys

Mucca Mad Boys

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duffer said:
Again, you're mistaking your opinion for the law. Incitement to violence is against the law. Whether you think the law is correct or not is academic, the police have a duty to enforce it. If I called for someone to be assaulted, and it was a credible threat, then I couldn't complain if I was arrested. That's the law, it's very simple.

The tweet was aimed specifically at trans women. Specifically. Read it again. And then read his history on this issue. He is rabidly and persistently and publicly anti-trans. Then consider his lack of apology for it. So "unfunny joke", I don't think so, that's just a coward's way of trying to weasel out of it, imho, but the court can decide. It met the standard for arrest.

If you don't want to be arrested, don't advocate for violence would seen to be the sensible approach. Does that restrict your free speech in any way?

And this "oh they're appealing so they're not guilty" is a wilful misunderstanding. Connolly was found guilty. She called for the burning of hotels where there were immigrants, and admitted to being a racist. She did it at a time of very serious disorder, which I suspect was an aggravating factor.

She appealed, and lost her appeal. You might think the sentence was harsh, I'm not sure I'd agree, she quite literally called for a large number of people to be burnt to death when a significant number of people were clearly intent on trying to do exactly that.

Either way, same story, don't want to go to jail, don't tweet racist calls to kill people in the middle of racist rioting. It's hardly unreasonable.

Why she's become a hero to some people says more about them than perhaps you realise.
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The law has proscribed a Palestine Action a terrorist organisation. As @fernandopartridge has pointed out, arrests have spiked. As it’s the law, clearly they’re all terrorists who deserved to be arrested and/or charged, right?

With free speech, you apply the principle to all or you don’t actually have free speech.

‘Don’t want to go to jail, don’t tweet racism’ is a chilling Orwellian notion. You’ve confirmed the obvious, you don’t actually believe in free speech.
 
Sky Blue Pete

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Heard an interesting phrase on leading podcast from Alex chalk we must imprison criminals we’re scared of but we can’t imprison everyone we’re cross with

interesting idea
 
SkyBlueDom26

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SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
You have displayed mysoginist behaviour many times on here.... so why would you want safe spaces for women all of a sudden?
(Before you jump on it in your usual wumming style, and allege otherwise, I think these spaces are important)
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I mean the definition of misogynistic behaviour to a loser like you is calling a girl good looking, trans ‘women’ should never be allowed to use women’s bathrooms…..common sense ey?
 
chiefdave

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SkyBlueDom26 said:
I mean the definition of misogynistic behaviour to a loser like you is calling a girl good looking, trans ‘women’ should never be allowed to use women’s bathrooms…..common sense ey?
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I can only think of two places I've ever worked that didn't have mixed bathrooms, was never an issue.

Similarly I recall when I was living in Portsmouth and they opened a new swimming pool the changing rooms were mixed, again it was a non-issue.

As with leaving the EU it seems to have become and issue when people have been fed a stream of targeted social media campaigns.

Personally I think the people you want to keep out of changing rooms of any type are sex offenders, child molesters etc.
 
SkyBlueDom26

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CNN defending a murderer, an absolutely disgraceful tv channel. ‘This man was hurting’ trump should close that shite channel down and throw them in jail

Look forward to the sky blue talk saddos trying to defend him and CNN
 
mmttww

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boosh firing up the Dom character early today to post the rage bait. Do you keep a tally of the bites you get?
 
chiefdave

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Mucca Mad Boys said:
The law has proscribed a Palestine Action a terrorist organisation. As @fernandopartridge has pointed out, arrests have spiked. As it’s the law, clearly they’re all terrorists who deserved to be arrested and/or charged, right?
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Worth pointing out that the people such as those protesting at the weekend were protesting against the proscription and want PA removed from the list. So essentially they are protesting for a change in the law not saying the law shouldn't apply. Although the authorities have also repeatedly been told that they are arresting people who are highly unlikely to meet the threshold to be charged and even less likely to meet the threshold to be convicted which raises the issue of why so many people are being rounded up with the knowledge they won't be charged.

But overall that's different to saying it is wrong to enforce the law and sentence someone, who has pled guilty, in line with sentencing guidelines.

If you want to argue for a law or sentencing guidelines change then thats fine but the suggestion from some people that it shouldn't apply to some people is absurd.
 
SkyBlueDom26

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mmttww said:
boosh firing up the Dom character early today to post the rage bait. Do you keep a tally of the bites you get?
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Nah I’m just pointing out how CNN are making excuses for a murderer, conveniently you left that bit out. Rage bait? Sums you up if that’s your view
 
duffer

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Mucca Mad Boys said:
The law has proscribed a Palestine Action a terrorist organisation. As @fernandopartridge has pointed out, arrests have spiked. As it’s the law, clearly they’re all terrorists who deserved to be arrested and/or charged, right?

With free speech, you apply the principle to all or you don’t actually have free speech.

‘Don’t want to go to jail, don’t tweet racism’ is a chilling Orwellian notion. You’ve confirmed the obvious, you don’t actually believe in free speech.
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You're an idiot if you read what I wrote and thing that.

Read it again. Try harder. All you've confirmed is that you're struggling with comprehension. Show exactly where I've said that the law shouldn't be applied equally.

Try actually quoting something rather than just ranting, and it's a debate worth having. At the moment you're just being lazy. Waah hates free speech, that's just you whining, not what I said.

There's nothing chilling about saying that people are not allowed to incite violence, unless you advocate for inviting violence. Is that your position on it. Connolly is your hero now?
 
Mucca Mad Boys

Mucca Mad Boys

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chiefdave said:
Worth pointing out that the people such as those protesting at the weekend were protesting against the proscription and want PA removed from the list. So essentially they are protesting for a change in the law not saying the law shouldn't apply. Although the authorities have also repeatedly been told that they are arresting people who are highly unlikely to meet the threshold to be charged and even less likely to meet the threshold to be convicted which raises the issue of why so many people are being rounded up with the knowledge they won't be charged.

But overall that's different to saying it is wrong to enforce the law and sentence someone, who has pled guilty, in line with sentencing guidelines.

If you want to argue for a law or sentencing guidelines change then thats fine but the suggestion from some people that it shouldn't apply to some people is absurd.
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It’s obvious that I’m arguing against the laws themselves.

It’s apparent that Duffer is happy for people to tweet ‘punch a fascist’ but not ‘punch a trans woman in the balls’. If you want to criminalise all violent speech, go ahead and do that. If you want to apply said rules only to people you disagree with, is just fundamentally wrong.
 
SkyBlueCharlie9

SkyBlueCharlie9

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SkyBlueDom26 said:
I mean the definition of misogynistic behaviour to a loser like you is calling a girl good looking, trans ‘women’ should never be allowed to use women’s bathrooms…..common sense ey?
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Please try using grammar properly.... it helps people understand your hate filled points.
Everything goes over you head, you utter snowflake bellend. Think before you type.
 
SkyBlueDom26

SkyBlueDom26

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SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
Please try using grammar properly.... it helps people understand your hate filled points.
Everything goes over you head, you utter snowflake bellend. Think before you type.
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Hate filled points? You are the most hateful person on here. ‘Utter snowflake bellend’ haha only have to look at every single one of your posts to see that it’s a perfect description of yourself you twat.

Only strange one here is you not wanting safe women spaces I find that slightly creepy
 
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Bugsy

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mmttww said:
boosh firing up the Dom character early today to post the rage bait. Do you keep a tally of the bites you get?
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Shocking comment. Rage bait.

A young girl was murder for no reason and no other passengers helped her, one even recorded her last breathe on his phone. Sick c**t
 
SkyBlueDom26

SkyBlueDom26

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Bugsy said:
Shocking comment. Rage bait.

A young girl was murder for no reason and no other passengers helped her, one even recorded her last breathe on his phone. Sick c**t
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Literally apparently my post was ‘rage bait’

@mmttww you need to get a grip, dreadful post. I’ll ignore the shocking story and how CNN are making excuses for him and instead post about how Dom is Boosh and is doing range bait! Hope it got you a few likes though
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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SkyBlueDom26 said:

CNN defending a murderer, an absolutely disgraceful tv channel. ‘This man was hurting’ trump should close that shite channel down and throw them in jail

Look forward to the sky blue talk saddos trying to defend him and CNN
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Wanting to throw journalists in prison isn’t a fascist move at all tbf.

Anyway. 6 posts in half an hour on the off topic thread of a football forum early doors, go outside and get off your phone.
 
SkyBlueDom26

SkyBlueDom26

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mmttww said:
It's what he does every day. What's sick is posting stories like that purely to stir sh*t up and shout at other posters.
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What, by pointing out how CNN are making excuses for the killer? Any sane person would agree with it yet you think I’m stirring shit up, get a grip!

Any normal person - ‘CNN are bad for saying that’
 
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SkyBlueCharlie9

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SkyBlueDom26 said:
Hate filled points? You are the most hateful person on here. ‘Utter snowflake bellend’ haha only have to look at every single one of your posts to see that it’s a perfect description of yourself you twat.

Only strange one here is you not wanting safe women spaces I find that slightly creepy
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That last sentance is an outright lie you should withdraw that fella.
Clearly your failures include being unable to read and comprehend what I said originally about women safe spaces being important [I have a wife and a daughter unlike you....] reposted below you utter fcukwit....
( "Before you jump on it in your usual wumming style, and allege otherwise, I think these spaces are important")
 
SkyBlueDom26

SkyBlueDom26

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SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
That last sentance is an outright lie you should withdraw that fella.
Clearly your failures include being unable to read and comprehend what I said originally about women safe spaces being important [I have a wife and a daughter unlike you....] reposted below you utter fcukwit....
( "Before you jump on it in your usual wumming style, and allege otherwise, I think these spaces are important")
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Utter snowflake bellend, never been a more fitting choice of words to describe you. You cry at almost every single post, sensitive soul.
 
SkyBlueDom26

SkyBlueDom26

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This is great news, would be a nice way to honour her and a small positive out of a truly shocking situation. The whole situation is disturbing
 
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