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Sky Blue Pete

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Can’t find those stats, only think I can find is something from the commons library saying 29% of asylum seekers arrive by small boats.

The small boats thing is entirely a problem of our own making. There’s a reason the use of that route to entry was virtually non existent prior to 2018.
Woah be careful you can’t blame Farage he’s the hero and saviour rolled into one
 

GIMOC

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You're the one being thick.

I'm not saying it's not illegal to enter a country without documents.

Try reading it again.

So they are illegal immigrants then because they entered the country without documents

Ffs
 

GIMOC

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Woah be careful you can’t blame Farage he’s the hero and saviour rolled into one

illegal immigration been happening for 20 years

Used to be Lorries they came through

you another one to add to the thick list?

tony Blair started this issue 20 years ago
 

Sky Blue Pete

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illegal immigration been happening for 20 years

Used to be Lorries they came through

you another one to add to the thick list?

tony Blair started this issue 20 years ago
Since Brexit is the answer and still of the million or so net migration to this country in 2024 about 30000 were from small boat crossings

you are being played
 

GIMOC

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Since Brexit is the answer and still of the million or so net migration to this country in 2024 about 30000 were from small boat crossings

you are being played

It was an issue before Brexit and an issue after brexit

why?

because the government allow this to happen. it’s easy to stop if they wanted to
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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dehumanised?

a 12 year old girl got raped 4 miles from our football club. surely that’s dehumanising for the girl and family?
Yes, and that’s a crime. But describing a whole group of people as ‘illegals’ is dehumanising also. And it makes it easier to write about them like they’re a problem to be solved instead of real people.

Again, you cannot be an illegal asylum seeker.
 

GIMOC

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Yes, and that’s a crime. But describing a whole group of people as ‘illegals’ is dehumanising also. And it makes it easier to write about them like they’re a problem to be solved instead of real people.

Again, you cannot be an illegal asylum seeker.

No it’s not

if you enter a country without the right documents then it’s illegal act and so should be detained

could you imagine going to Spain without a passport and Spain will let you in?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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It was an issue before Brexit and an issue after brexit

why?

because the government allow this to happen. it’s easy to stop if they wanted to
It was not an issue it was made an issue by Farage who used it to whip up sentiment against migration from Eastern Europe

the numbers at 800,000 net migration began in 2016 and have only just reduced

it’s not easy to stop especially when we need significant migration to ensure our older generation have enough money for their retirement and we have enough workers in some key industries

it’s far from easy
 

SIR ERNIE

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We've had 30 years of PMs who are open border globalists.
If anyone thinks this latest idiot will ever make a serious effort to control immigration they're mistaken.
 

Marty

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It was not an issue it was made an issue by Farage who used it to whip up sentiment against migration from Eastern Europe

the numbers at 800,000 net migration began in 2016 and have only just reduced

it’s not easy to stop especially when we need significant migration to ensure our older generation have enough money for their retirement and we have enough workers in some key industries

it’s far from easy

You're one for taxing the rich, million pound pension pot in your mid 50's give some of it away.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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We've had 30 years of PMs who are open border globalists.
If anyone thinks this latest idiot will ever make a serious effort to control immigration they're mistaken.
Already is and has
Love Lowe to get his wish and put the navy in the channel and see how that shit goes down
 

Grendel

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What on earth are you on about?

I'm saying there's a difference between an illegal act and being an illegal person.

It is not illegal to be a person (I guess unless you've been sentenced to death?).

If you are in a country illegally you are an illegal migrant
 

Grendel

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Since Brexit is the answer and still of the million or so net migration to this country in 2024 about 30000 were from small boat crossings

you are being played

that’s not true. Under the Blair government it was discussed to house migrants in a Scottish island to process.

It was just a different method of entry
 

Grendel

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Grendel

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You're using horrible sh*t that's been done to children to score internet points on a football forum.

Well labour MPs do that
 

GIMOC

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You're using horrible sh*t that's been done to children to score internet points on a football forum.

points scoring? to who?

stating facts

Worse excuse I know when people say points scoring that’s when you know someone losing an argument
 

mmttww

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Well labour MPs do that

I don't think Labour MPs post on here. If you're looking for someone to defend MPs of any persuasion so you can get into it and do the deflection dance, you're talking to the wrong bloke.
 

Grendel

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I don't think Labour MPs post on here. If you're looking for someone to defend MPs of any persuasion so you can get into it and do the deflection dance, you're talking to the wrong bloke.

Hardly a deflection dance. This is a forum with posters using silly names. Not the same As a cabinet member sayin anyone opposing his law supports Jimmy Saville
 

mmttww

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Worse excuse I know when people say points scoring that’s when you know someone losing an argument

I'm not arguing with you. I answered a question you asked. You're not making an argument. You're telling people that they condone children being raped.
 

Grendel

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I'm not arguing with you. I answered a question you asked. You're not making an argument, either. You're telling people that they condone children being raped.

You once said your ashamed we have fans who took a different side to you once
 

Grendel

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