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alexccfc99

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Not Trump-related: Boeing does appear to have some kind of cloak of invincibility when it comes to airline safety. There have been so many losses of 737s in particular, and yet they haven't been grounded (other than the Max range, which are still dodgy, in my opinion). Concorde had ONE accident (caused by the French not keeping their airports maintained properly) and it was grounded pretty much terminally!
Concorde was hemorrhaging money towards the end and I am pretty sure BA's concorde flights were operating at a loss

The crash just happened to be the straw that broke the camels back and accelerated the choice to retire it imo
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Not Trump-related: Boeing does appear to have some kind of cloak of invincibility when it comes to airline safety. There have been so many losses of 737s in particular, and yet they haven't been grounded (other than the Max range, which are still dodgy, in my opinion). Concorde had ONE accident (caused by the French not keeping their airports maintained properly) and it was grounded pretty much terminally!
Airbus do seem to have a far better safety record, just off the top of my head.
 

AOM

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Awful, I hate flying and I know people say there's more chance of being hit by a bus it just shows that this can still happen :(

Same, I'm a bit of a nervous flyer and none of the safety stats or videos I've watched make me feel any safer when there is some turbulence.
I'd feel a lot better if I was allowed to be in with the pilot - bet the rest of the passengers wouldn't though!
 

Sick Boy

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Same, I'm a bit of a nervous flyer and none of the safety stats or videos I've watched make me feel any safer when there is some turbulence.
I'd feel a lot better if I was allowed to be in with the pilot - bet the rest of the passengers wouldn't though!
I’m not a fan of flying but tend to fly a couple of times a month or average. The only part that I don’t like is the first 5-10 mins after takeoff. A good rule of thumb is that if the cabin crew are looking relaxed then so should you.
 
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Nick

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I’m not a fan of flying but tend to fly a couple of times a month or average. The only part that I don’t like is the first 5-10 mins after takeoff. A good rule of thumb is that if the cabin crew are looking relaxed then so should you.

Remember being a kid and there being some violent turbulence and one of the cabin crew were absolutely shitting themselves. That stuck with me.

I usually get through it with alcohol, I don't know how people can sleep on a plane though. Every little bump or drop I am sensitive too.

Also just seen a couple of videos of the crash, it's terrible :(
 

AOM

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Remember being a kid and there being some violent turbulence and one of the cabin crew were absolutely shitting themselves. That stuck with me.

I usually get through it with alcohol, I don't know how people can sleep on a plane though. Every little bump or drop I am sensitive too.

Also just seen a couple of videos of the crash, it's terrible :(

Always jealous of those who fall asleep at take off and wake up when landing.
Couple of pints in the bar beforehand and then when in the air take the edge off usually
 

Sick Boy

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Remember being a kid and there being some violent turbulence and one of the cabin crew were absolutely shitting themselves. That stuck with me.

I usually get through it with alcohol, I don't know how people can sleep on a plane though. Every little bump or drop I am sensitive too.

Also just seen a couple of videos of the crash, it's terrible :(
I used to need a few pints before flying but have got to the point where I can do it sober without too many issues. I just take something to watch with some noise cancelling headphones and I find that helps a lot. I’m the same and can never sleep, even on lont distance flights…on those I do tend to drink a large bit.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I’m not a fan of flying but tend to fly a couple of times a month or average. The only part that I don’t like is the first 5-10 mins after takeoff. A good rule of thumb is that if the cabin crew are looking relaxed then so should you.
I agree. I’ve only been worried twice though, once when the plane banked very sharply to the right shortly after takeoff, and the other when we took off into a vicious lightning storm.
That little bit of time after takeoff is when the plane is most vulnerable for sure.
 

chiefdave

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Remember being a kid and there being some violent turbulence and one of the cabin crew were absolutely shitting themselves. That stuck with me.
Once, when I was flying back from Aus via Japan, when we left everything was fine. Unknown to us by the time we arrived we had declared war on someone and the airport was on some ridiculous high alert which meant there were army vehicles and personal lining the runway.

Just as we were coming in to land and everyone spotted that and wondered what the fuck was going on one of the engines caught fire and you could could see flames and smoke coming out of it.

The person sat next to me was not having a good time!
 

TomRad85

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I used to need a few pints before flying but have got to the point where I can do it sober without too many issues. I just take something to watch with some noise cancelling headphones and I find that helps a lot. I’m the same and can never sleep, even on lont distance flights…on those I do tend to drink a large bit.
I've been the only person awake on the whole plane more than once, well excluding the staff i assume.
 
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TomRad85

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I agree. I’ve only been worried twice though, once when the plane banked very sharply to the right shortly after takeoff, and the other when we took off into a vicious lightning storm.
That little bit of time after takeoff is when the plane is most vulnerable for sure.
Agree, once i'm up i'm generally fairly calm, although all it takes is a bit of turbulence to send me again. I actually like landing.
 

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Sick Boy

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I agree. I’ve only been worried twice though, once when the plane banked very sharply to the right shortly after takeoff, and the other when we took off into a vicious lightning storm.
That little bit of time after takeoff is when the plane is most vulnerable for sure.
The plane banking is just turning it in the right direction and nothing to be overly worried about. It used to terrify me though!
 

Nick

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The plane banking is just turning it in the right direction and nothing to be overly worried about. It used to terrify me though!

I think I have a sensitivety to it as well, even when theres a slight turn or the plane starts dropping a bit I can feel it and shit myself. Nobody else seems to notice.
 

PVA

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I don't particularly enjoy takeoff, but otherwise not really a nervous flyer.

I did genuinely think I was going to die when in a tiny prop plane over the middle of the Swedish wilderness, turbulence was horrific, pretty sure I blacked out at one point.
 

Nick

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I did genuinely think I was going to die when in a tiny prop plane over the middle of the Swedish wilderness, turbulence was horrific, pretty sure I blacked out at one point.

While I can appreciate the scenery from something like that must have been brilliant, it sounds like something I'd avoid at all costs.
 

fernandopartridge

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Not Trump-related: Boeing does appear to have some kind of cloak of invincibility when it comes to airline safety. There have been so many losses of 737s in particular, and yet they haven't been grounded (other than the Max range, which are still dodgy, in my opinion). Concorde had ONE accident (caused by the French not keeping their airports maintained properly) and it was grounded pretty much terminally!
I think that grounding was less about safety and more environmental / convenience. Gutted really cos I'd have loved to go on one.
 

Captain Dart

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I used to be a little bit anxious on landing or taking off but these days it never bothers me.
 

Otis

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The footage of the survivor just walking away is unbelievable.
It almost seems like it's untrue. Just looking at the plane engulfed in flames as soon as it crashed. You would have said everyone dead, without any doubt.

Bloody miracle if he actually did survive that.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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It almost seems like it's untrue. Just looking at the plane engulfed in flames as soon as it crashed. You would have said everyone dead, without any doubt.

Bloody miracle if he actually did survive that.
There was a not dissimilar crash with a sole survivor that was a little girl whose seat was thrown clear of the wreckage, but she suffered some moderate injuries even there. For this guy to walk clear with superficial injuries seems almost hard to believe.
 

Saddlebrains

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I think I have a sensitivety to it as well, even when theres a slight turn or the plane starts dropping a bit I can feel it and shit myself. Nobody else seems to notice.


Same here

In absolutely petrified of flying. I put it off for 20 years until last year. Every movement, every bump, every noise terrifies me

My brain cant compute that im in a metal tube going at 600MPH 37000 feet above the floor, with 2 blokes / women I've never met in my life being the ones in control of whether I live or die






Guess whos going to Turkey in 6 weeks 🙃🙃🙃🙃
 

Otis

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Same here

In absolutely petrified of flying. I put it off for 20 years until last year. Every movement, every bump, every noise terrifies me

My brain cant compute that im in a metal tube going at 600MPH 37000 feet above the floor, with 2 blokes / women I've never met in my life being the ones in control of whether I live or die






Guess whos going to Turkey in 6 weeks 🙃🙃🙃🙃
That's quite funny, a chicken going to Turkey. 🤪
 

Ccfcisparks

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I don't particularly enjoy takeoff, but otherwise not really a nervous flyer.

I did genuinely think I was going to die when in a tiny prop plane over the middle of the Swedish wilderness, turbulence was horrific, pretty sure I blacked out at one point.
society of the snow has put me off doing something like that forever.
 

Houchens Head

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I bloody love flying, especially take off and landing. Just like a huge roller coaster!
Incidentally, my stepdaughter is a flight attendant with Qantas, and flies out to Australia or Singapore every week or so. She's been all over the world, in fact it would be easier to list the countries she hasn't visited! I do admit though, that I do worry about her flights until I know she's landed safely.
 

AOM

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Same here

In absolutely petrified of flying. I put it off for 20 years until last year. Every movement, every bump, every noise terrifies me

My brain cant compute that im in a metal tube going at 600MPH 37000 feet above the floor, with 2 blokes / women I've never met in my life being the ones in control of whether I live or die






Guess whos going to Turkey in 6 weeks 🙃🙃🙃🙃

Think the fear of flying is made worse by not doing it regularly, which obviously a lot of people don't.

I know quite a few people who weren't scared of flying until after the Covid lockdowns which was about 2 years of not being exposed to being on a plane
 

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