Match Thread Coventry v Sunderland Championship Playoff 1st Leg Friday 9th May (8 Viewers)

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Jamesimus

Jamesimus

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Find the narrative “we didn’t turn up” weird. We lost due to a mistake made by a largely good player.

Wright was maybe the only player I felt that didn’t “turn up” and he’s still our biggest goal threat. There’s an arguments to be had over whether we’d have been better off starting a taller striker in the middle, whether Grimes was too negative for some periods of the game, our inability to deal with a low block and insistence on always playing a high line at home. All that, sure.
 
torchomatic

torchomatic

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Perennial Lurker said:
I'm sure there would be a lot more criticism had Collins been in goal . It was a pretty awful effort to save it
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Of course. There would be multiple threads. Must be because Wilson is a "character".
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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Perennial Lurker said:
Not angling for an argument but which side did you think the attacker would try and put the ball in ?
For me it was pretty obvious he was going to go across Wilson but he positioned himself poorly
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I don't know how you wanted him to position himself he has to try and cover the near post as well as the far post (which he was) .He got a hand on it it just wasn't strong enough.Personally don't think he was at fault for either goal
 
Jamesimus

Jamesimus

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Also, don’t want to take anything away from Sunderland who I think executed their game plan perfectly, knowing it exploited our weaknesses. They defended the box so well and the finishes from the lads up front were very good. That Mayenda is a huge talent. It’s a risky game plan that paid off.

I would be surprised if they are not more expansive on Tuesday, but if they are not, all we need is a lucky bounce in the penalty area and we’re back in the tie. Low block is not without its risks!
 
Otis

Otis

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Jamesimus said:
Find the narrative “we didn’t turn up” weird. We lost due to a mistake made by a largely good player.

Wright was maybe the only player I felt that didn’t “turn up” and he’s still our biggest goal threat. There’s an arguments to be had over whether we’d have been better off starting a taller striker in the middle, whether Grimes was too negative for some periods of the game, our inability to deal with a low block and insistence on always playing a high line at home. All that, sure.
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Yeah, the "didn't turn up" is a nonsense really isn't it.

We totally controlled the game, but just found it really hard to break down their defence. We did have some very good opportunities though. That Sheaf one was a shocker.

In fact, whoever he signs his next contract with, I think he has have the caveat that he promises not to shoot. Ever!

It's such small margins in football. The ball was bouncing around their 6 yard box on a few occasions, but it just didn't land right for us. That's football for you.

And their keeper made an awful mistake, but got away with it. MVE makes a mistake, goal.

I fancy our chances on Tuesday. It's just one goal.

I agree with Lampard. For the most part, we played pretty well. It was just the final third where we struggled to get behind and through them.

Keep the faith. I am not at all despondent. We didn't play badly last night and we know now we can go toe to toe with them.

And forget about our away record. Just look at Sunderland's form.leading up to our game and the length of time it's been since they last beat us.

This is a one off cup tie now. Just need to score that first goal and it's game on again.
 
Jamesimus

Jamesimus

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Otis said:
Yeah, the "didn't turn up" is a nonsense really isn't it.

We totally controlled the game, but just found it really hard to break down their defence. We did have some very good opportunities though. That Sheaf one was a shocker.

In fact, whoever he signs his next contract with, I think he has have the caveat that he promises not to shoot. Ever!

It's such small margins in football. The ball was bouncing around their 6 yard box on a few occasions, but it just didn't land right for us. That's football for you.

And their keeper made an awful mistake, but got away with it. MVE makes a mistake, goal.

I fancy our chances on Tuesday. It's just one goal.

I agree with Lampard. For the most part, we played pretty well. It was just the final third where we struggled to get behind and through them.

Keep the faith. I am not at all despondent. We didn't play badly last night and we know now we can go toe to toe with them.

And forget about our away record. Just look at Sunderland's form.leading up to our game and the length of time it's been since they last beat us.

This is a one off cup tie now. Just need to score that first goal and it's game on again.
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Mad that Sheaf is a centre mid and he’s pretty silky on the ball, but he’s also one of the last people you want the ball to drop out of the sky to on the edge of the opposition penalty area. Bobby Thomas strikes a ball well more consistently!
 
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Ashdown

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Look we dominated possession, were the team in control of the ball but it counts for very little when once again your strikers are weak. If we knew we were going to hit long balls then surely we needed Simms up front. He’s shit in the air but better than BTA. Lampard has made mistakes here again. Trying to compare Wilson to Collins is pretty pathetic, it wasn’t the best effort to save the first but the real problems lay elsewhere.
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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Ashdown said:
Look we dominated possession, were the team in control of the ball but it counts for very little when once again your strikers are weak.
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But that was part of Sunderlands game plan, Le Bris even said it post game.
Dominating possesion isn't a positive when it's part of the oppositions game plan.
 
Colin Steins Smile

Colin Steins Smile

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I’ve not read the previous 44 pages, but excuse my responses if it only repeats other posts.
1. They did their homework and “parked the bus”.
2. We were too slow in our approach play, as it allowed them to be set and double mark our creative players.
3. Our vulnerability to counter attacks is clear due to our high line and having CBs who are not the quickest.
 
Otis

Otis

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clint van damme said:
But that was part of Sunderlands game plan, Le Bris even said it post game.
Dominating possesion isn't a positive when it's part of the oppositions game plan.
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Yeah, but then they did get lucky on a few occasions too.

Their keeper's dreadful mistake wasn't punished. Sheaf clearly should have scored. He was completely unmarked and about 8 yards out.

Then there was the one that was pinging around their box on the first half, where the ball could have gone anywhere.

Such fine margins at times, isn't it
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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Otis said:
Yeah, but then they did get lucky on a few occasions too.

Their keeper's dreadful mistake wasn't punished. Sheaf clearly should have scored. He was completely unmarked and about 8 yards out.

Then there was the one that was pinging around their box on the first half, where the ball could have gone anywhere.

Such fine margins at times, isn't it
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Sheaf can't even get a shot on target let alone score!
And when you concede possesion you expect the opposition to have some chances, its inevitable, but we didnt create that much and we aided and abetted their plan to hit us on the break.
 
Saddlebrains

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People trying to get on Milans back is bizarre


Yes he's made a huge mistake thats probably cost us Wembley
But how many times has he bailed us out with his pace when teams break. Il tell you how many, fucking loads

If it wasn't for Milans pace when getting back, we would have conceded an absolute ton more goals over the time hes been here. Anyone who goes to games sees what he does on the recovery, let alone how good he can be going forward

Hes our best RB since Roland Nilsson, and i find it very sad that there are people on here and social media calling him out
 
Briles

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I still think we get through I can't see sunderland sitting so deep at home, their fans won't allow it.
 
Tommo1993

Tommo1993

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Briles said:
I still think we get through I can't see sunderland sitting so deep at home, their fans won't allow it.
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If they’ve done any homework at all on last night, the last time we played them and a lot of our other games. There’s every reason they’ll sit back, they’d be mad not to imo. Last time they tried to attack us they got pumped 3-0.
 
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AJB1983

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My thoughts:
I’d still have started Simms ahead of Asante, but I don’t think he did too badly considering.
That game was a microcosm of our season - on top for most of it, can’t convert it into goals, and two defensive lapses result in goals from more or less the only chances they had.
Grimes was excellent - best I’ve seen him for us.
Thought Sheaf looked a bit more positive in and around the box.
Jobe Bellingham is the biggest myth in the EFL - did one thing all night which was the goal-saving tackle in Wright near the end.
they obviously came for a draw and we gifted them the win.
not sure why every foul we make has to be a yellow card 🤷🏻‍♂️
tie certainly isn’t over - we get the first goal early on Tuesday it’s game on.
 
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Ashdown

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I’m not confident now, it’s not like we have someone special to bring in to change things. Our away form has been pretty awful recently, Saka vanishes, Wright usually the same.
Our best hope is that Sunderland have rode their luck last night and we get a few clear sights of goal. Please fuck not that headless chicken Thomas Asante again please Frank.
 
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Viktor17

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Still hope, believe. There is more twists to come.

We didn’t do a lot wrong last night, certainly didn’t deserve to loose. Credit they defended well, Ballard outstanding.

but there’s hope. Without stating obvious, we have to score 1st goal. And haji has to turn up - pretty feeble effort last night from the star man….

Grimes best player on pitch, absolute rolls Royce.
 
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Macca

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Saddlebrains said:
People trying to get on Milans back is bizarre


Yes he's made a huge mistake thats probably cost us Wembley
But how many times has he bailed us out with his pace when teams break. Il tell you how many, fucking loads

If it wasn't for Milans pace when getting back, we would have conceded an absolute ton more goals over the time hes been here. Anyone who goes to games sees what he does on the recovery, let alone how good he can be going forward

Hes our best RB since Roland Nilsson, and i find it very sad that there are people on here and social media calling him out
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Absolute morons
 
Tommo1993

Tommo1993

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SAFC must be kicking themselves. Years of playing attacking football against us to get a point at best. All they had to do was sit off and wait for the mistake et voila
 
Otis

Otis

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Saddlebrains said:
People trying to get on Milans back is bizarre


Yes he's made a huge mistake thats probably cost us Wembley
But how many times has he bailed us out with his pace when teams break. Il tell you how many, fucking loads

If it wasn't for Milans pace when getting back, we would have conceded an absolute ton more goals over the time hes been here. Anyone who goes to games sees what he does on the recovery, let alone how good he can be going forward

Hes our best RB since Roland Nilsson, and i find it very sad that there are people on here and social media calling him out
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Nuts, if true

Leave the poor bloke alone. He must be feeling really down about it anyway.

It happens to the very best of players.

It was his fault for one the goals against Plymouth too, but he's been one of our best players and like you say, he has contributed so much more in terms of positivity than in mistakes
 
Nick

Nick

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thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
He made 1 mistake not multiple 1's.The guy has been great all season who are you god football is a game were these thing happen .We dust ourselves down and go again Tuesday hopefully force them to make a few mistakes
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Have you been watching this season? It was only a couple of weeks ago he fucked up twice against Plymouth. One just as bad as last night.

Collins was in goal though so you probably didn't notice.
 
lord_garrincha

lord_garrincha

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Saddlebrains said:
People trying to get on Milans back is bizarre


Yes he's made a huge mistake thats probably cost us Wembley
But how many times has he bailed us out with his pace when teams break. Il tell you how many, fucking loads

If it wasn't for Milans pace when getting back, we would have conceded an absolute ton more goals over the time hes been here. Anyone who goes to games sees what he does on the recovery, let alone how good he can be going forward

Hes our best RB since Roland Nilsson, and i find it very sad that there are people on here and social media calling him out
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Not his fault there is a Championship play off right back curse!!!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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torchomatic said:
Funny ain't it? Others fuck up (Binks for example) but it's 100% Collins'fault. Wilson shows how poor he is, yet it's others what done it.

Neither keeper is better than the other IMHO.
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Collins cleaned out his own defence and created an open goal. Mostly that goal is on him.

The defence stood still arms raised to let a forward run through. Mostly that goal is on them.

Neither keeper is good enough, no agenda on my part.
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Collins cleaned out his own defence and created an open goal. Mostly that goal is on him.

The defence stood still arms raised to let a forward run through. Mostly that goal is on them.

Neither keeper is good enough, no agenda on my part.
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Another point, and this is just my take on it, but I don't think anyone will have been happier to see Brad Collins dropped than Brad Collins
He looked broken at the end of the Luton game.
 
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