After the Elation - The questions (1 Viewer)

covboy1987 · May 17, 2020

After the elation and celebrations of promotion which is pretty certain next week - How do you think the clubs are going to approach things particularly our club as many questions need answering. Many club will be in the same boat, some worse than others
Income
Clubs could be without proper income for a 12 - 18 months (maybe a possibility of some revenue in time off football behind closed doors income tv
Stadium
Where will Cov be playing in the Championship?
Standing Still
Are club owners going to keep on paying the standing costs and keep things ticking over of players wages (don’t think the government will for long term) and overheads such staff costs and stadiums maintenance

letsallsingtogether · May 17, 2020

Tbf if games are to be behind closed doors why do we need to pay for ground rent just use the Ryton pitch that would save us loads.
Will just have to pay the staff wages.

covboy1987 · May 17, 2020

letsallsingtogether said:
Tbf if games are to be behind closed doors why do we need to pay for ground rent just use the Ryton pitch that would save us loads.
Will just have to pay the staff wages.

only issue with that - as things get steadily better and an announcemnet is made mid season that clubs can have fans back attending - Then we might be stuck

KersleyDigs · May 17, 2020

Randomly, not having any rent/and or stadium costs if there is a period of no games will be good. Wasps are fucked though! Haha

skybluesam66 · May 17, 2020

Our income will be more next season than it has for a while

skybluebeast · May 17, 2020

letsallsingtogether said:
Tbf if games are to be behind closed doors why do we need to pay for ground rent just use the Ryton pitch that would save us loads.
Will just have to pay the staff wages.

TBF if they’re going to start next season BCD why cancel this one?

torchomatic · May 17, 2020

I think Wasps will be pretty desperate to get us back at the Ricoh.

larry_david · May 17, 2020

If Sisu get us to the prem... Are they suddenly heroes?

I'd argue yes

Grendel · May 17, 2020

letsallsingtogether said:
Tbf if games are to be behind closed doors why do we need to pay for ground rent just use the Ryton pitch that would save us loads.
Will just have to pay the staff wages.

Would never be sanctioned by the football league

Brighton Sky Blue · May 17, 2020

larry_david said:
If Sisu get us to the prem... Are they suddenly heroes?

I'd argue yes

Ridiculous

Sick Boy · May 17, 2020

larry_david said:
If Sisu get us to the prem... Are they suddenly heroes?

I'd argue yes

They’d need to invest a hell of a lot in the squad to do that but it would actually be a great achievement if they did.

If it had been the likes of Hoffman who’d broken the cumbersome rent agreement at the Ricoh and the council had then brought in the franchise, the reaction of the fan base would have been very different.

ceetee · May 17, 2020

letsallsingtogether said:
Tbf if games are to be behind closed doors why do we need to pay for ground rent just use the Ryton pitch that would save us loads.
Will just have to pay the staff wages.

Authorities are worried that fans will congregate outside stadiums when teams are playing.
Imagine trying to police that at Ryton

Paxman II · May 17, 2020

I don't think for a minute BCD will happen when the new season gets under way - whenever that will be. Some capacity control perhaps if this thing is still going but I doubt we are still hiding away come December time.

Colin Steins Smile · May 17, 2020

larry_david said:
If Sisu get us to the prem... Are they suddenly heroes?

I'd argue yes

I’d argue for MR to be knighted

ccfcmad1 · May 17, 2020

Just had swindons chairman on talksport, long story cut short said he should be celebrating promotion but the true scenario is with out help from somewhere he doubts they will be able to start the season in league one with no income coming in, and this is coming from a well run club with a fairly decent fan base, makes you wonder where it leaves us slightly worrying listening to what was said.

covboy1987 · May 17, 2020

Paxman II said:
I don't think for a minute BCD will happen when the new season gets under way - whenever that will be. Some capacity control perhaps if this thing is still going but I doubt we are still hiding away come December time.

The Germans are not even considering the idea of fan attendance till January 2021 and they have a head start – I cannot see us playing with fans earliest August next year

covboy1987 · May 17, 2020

ccfcmad1 said:
Just had swindons chairman on talksport, long story cut short said he should be celebrating promotion but the true scenario is with out help from somewhere he doubts they will be able to start the season in league one with no income coming in, and this is coming from a well run club with a fairly decent fan base, makes you wonder where it leaves us slightly worrying listening to what was said.

Worrying times got to agree with him - thats the basic theme of this thread

bawtryneal · May 17, 2020

If you read the article/interview in today's Times with the Cardiff City CEO he infers that 50% of the clubs currently in the Championship are up for sale. He quotes Derby as a club with a non sustainable business model. Leeds are the same if they don't promoted this season.
If you had money to invest in a Championship Club why would you pick Coventry. ( unless you were a City fan with about £20million to waste )
The chances of SISU giving us away is probably zero, so think we are "stuck" with them for several more years so may as well get behind them and support the team/club when we get the chance.

larry_david · May 17, 2020

If promotion is confirmed this week and the league is over bar play offs. Will be announce our retained list?

covboy1987 · May 17, 2020

bawtryneal said:
If you read the article/interview in today's Times with the Cardiff City CEO he infers that 50% of the clubs currently in the Championship are up for sale. He quotes Derby as a club with a non sustainable business model. Leeds are the same if they don't promoted this season.
If you had money to invest in a Championship Club why would you pick Coventry. ( unless you were a City fan with about £20million to waste )
The chances of SISU giving us away is probably zero, so think we are "stuck" with them for several more years so may as well get behind them and support the team/club when we get the chance.

Hoping they will bank roll us to keep things going

Paxman II · May 17, 2020

covboy1987 said:
The Germans are not even considering the idea of fan attendance till January 2021 and they have a head start – I cannot see us playing with fans earliest August next year

August next year? Then kiss football goodbye if you believe that. Never going to happen in a million years.

Sick Boy · May 17, 2020

bawtryneal said:
If you read the article/interview in today's Times with the Cardiff City CEO he infers that 50% of the clubs currently in the Championship are up for sale. He quotes Derby as a club with a non sustainable business model. Leeds are the same if they don't promoted this season.
If you had money to invest in a Championship Club why would you pick Coventry. ( unless you were a City fan with about £20million to waste )
The chances of SISU giving us away is probably zero, so think we are "stuck" with them for several more years so may as well get behind them and support the team/club when we get the chance.

The situation with the stadium/council/franchise just makes it even more unlikely.

Sick Boy · May 17, 2020

Paxman II said:
August next year? Then kiss football goodbye if you believe that. Never going to happen in a million years.

Neither is fans back in the stadium at the star o for next season.

covboy1987 · May 17, 2020

Paxman II said:
August next year? Then kiss football goodbye if you believe that. Never going to happen in a million years.

The piece below was in the mail newspaper but until a vaccine is found nobody really knows
Sport could be played out in empty stadiums 'for another 18 months' until coronavirus vaccine is found, say experts, meaning financial ruin for scores of Premier League and EFL clubs reliant on matchday revenue

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · May 17, 2020

bawtryneal said:
If you read the article/interview in today's Times with the Cardiff City CEO he infers that 50% of the clubs currently in the Championship are up for sale. He quotes Derby as a club with a non sustainable business model. Leeds are the same if they don't promoted this season.
If you had money to invest in a Championship Club why would you pick Coventry. ( unless you were a City fan with about £20million to waste )
The chances of SISU giving us away is probably zero, so think we are "stuck" with them for several more years so may as well get behind them and support the team/club when we get the chance.

I’d argue that our business model is currently somewhat more sustainable than most championship sides. Our outgoing are going to be dwarfed by most championship sides

Flying Fokker · May 17, 2020

larry_david said:
If Sisu get us to the prem... Are they suddenly heroes?

I'd argue yes

No. No no no. Do you really want SISU to hang around. Just look at what they did over the years they had stewardship of the club. Liars, charlatans, disregarding city based football. Lies about stadiums etc. The revenue/ any revenue had come via sales. We needed owners to hold on or them. SISU held us back. Small crowds/ distancing themselves from the fan base.etc....no no no

Grendel · May 17, 2020

Flying Fokker said:
No. No no no. Do you really want SISU to hang around. Just look at what they did over the years they had stewardship of the club. Liars, charlatans, disregarding city based football. Lies about stadiums etc. The revenue/ any revenue had come via sales. We needed owners to hold on or them. SISU held us back. Small crowds/ distancing themselves from the fan base.etc....no no no

The club would have ceased to exist in 2007 if they had not taken over

ccfc1234 · May 17, 2020

covboy1987 said:
The piece below was in the mail newspaper but until a vaccine is found nobody really knows
Sport could be played out in empty stadiums 'for another 18 months' until coronavirus vaccine is found, say experts, meaning financial ruin for scores of Premier League and EFL clubs reliant on matchday revenue

I have read many articles saying TV revenue in the prem is so high they don't need fans in the stadium to cover costs as its a fraction of their overall income.
Lower leagues I can see this being a much bigger issue.

Grendel · May 17, 2020

ccfc1234 said:
I have read many articles saying TV revenue in the prem is so high they don't need fans in the stadium to cover costs as its a fraction of their overall income.
Lower leagues I can see this being a much bigger issue.

TV companies are threatened cancelled contracts unless normality resumes

covboy1987 · May 17, 2020

ccfc1234 said:
I have read many articles saying TV revenue in the prem is so high they don't need fans in the stadium to cover costs as its a fraction of their overall income.
Lower leagues I can see this being a much bigger issue.

Not sure on other opinions but watched one of the German games yesterday and was basically not interested - The fans certainly make a difference to a game - Do not think the TV companies would attract the ongoing revenues needed - Get away with a few games behind closed doors but if it continued I think fans would disappear in droves

Sick Boy · May 17, 2020

Grendel said:
The club would have ceased to exist in 2007 if they had not taken over

They were also the council’s preferred bidder because I think the other parties wanted to buy into the stadium. Uncle Ray ‘demi god’ Ranson seemed to think this wasn’t important though.

wingy · May 17, 2020

Grendel said:
TV companies are threatened cancelled contracts unless normality resumes

Yeah dependant on where we're at .
Prem club's are in for a big shock.
Players too.
However it pans out a little sanity may finally prevail .

skybluesam66 · May 17, 2020

why do people think we will struggle financially
yes, we will have to cut our cloth re wages, but with the added tv money, even with no gates our revenue will be +50%
Going into a division, where many teams will be in a mess

From a footballing point of view, could work in our favour

wingy · May 17, 2020

skybluesam66 said:
why do people think we will struggle financially
yes, we will have to cut our cloth re wages, but with the added tv money, even with no gates our revenue will be +50%
Going into a division, where many teams will be in a mess

From a footballing point of view, could work in our favour

There is no guarantee that TV money is going to be anywhere near what it has been .
Certainly in the short-term .
If there is any sanity it won't go back to where it had got to .

cc84cov · May 17, 2020

Behind closed doors ?

Good Fuck a ground we will play at Ryton

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