Leamington Pete
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More like the room is rented out so much they don't have time to clean it, so you pay good money but the bed still has dodgy stains on it and the Mini bar is empty.
Yeah sorry about that. It was a good night though.
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Yeah sorry about that. It was a good night though.
letsallsingtogether
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People were also moaning about coventry playing their games outside coventry but now get excited about Leicester playing at the ricoh as it gets one over on sisu
Don't believe they are getting excited at all just proving that sisu were full of shit as usual and how others actually believed this spin?
Should tell them all to go now, but depends on the contracts I suppose.
Nick
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At the end of the day they can't be blamed for getting as many people in there as they can, it is just business.
Where I fault them for it is by trying to play on the fans with the whole heart felt stuff.
If they has just done it without all the press games, then fair play.
letsallsingtogether
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Press games? then you would moan they did it all in secret fuck me they can't really win can they.
Business works like that let everyone know what you have, and show them everyone who wants a slice and Boom you get even more business. Simple when it works
Nick
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By press games I mean the stuff put in the press specifically to get to the fans. "We stand by you on the terraces, we live next door to you, we love the club". I mean all the emotional crap when CCFC moved that was done to play at the fans, nothing else.
Of course it is just business, so if they hadn't given it the "For the people" shite you couldn't really fault them for moving on could you? Don't play on the emotions of fans when we moved away, to just move another club.
Engaging, Always
By press games I mean the stuff put in the press specifically to get to the fans. "We stand by you on the terraces, we live next door to you, we love the club". I mean all the emotional crap when CCFC moved that was done to play at the fans, nothing else.
Of course it is just business, so if they hadn't given it the "For the people" shite you couldn't really fault them for moving on could you?
Engaging, Always
I don't think it was just business either, I think there was an element of politics. SISU represented the bullying classes with their secret investors, high flying lawyers and devious management charges on the club, the Tory boys and girl from the City if you like. Thing is, the Labour council had the whip hand and possession and possession is 9/10th of the law as they say so they decided to pull together and freeze the bullies out. Problem is in spitting in the eye of one bunch of sharks they may have just sold 50% to another and much now to the chagrin of many people in Coventry who support either or both of CRFC and CCFC !
bigfatronssba
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Nothing to do with party politics Ashdown. The conservative councillors were just as aware as the labour ones of sisu's game.
Fisher was the one that tried to make out it was party political, that was one of his arguments for the JR.
'Aware but powerless of course' !
Rusty Trombone
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yep, they showed their unhappiness with the proposal by, er, voting for it.
skybluetony176
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By press games I mean the stuff put in the press specifically to get to the fans. "We stand by you on the terraces, we live next door to you, we love the club". I mean all the emotional crap when CCFC moved that was done to play at the fans, nothing else.
Of course it is just business, so if they hadn't given it the "For the people" shite you couldn't really fault them for moving on could you? Don't play on the emotions of fans when we moved away, to just move another club.
Engaging, Always
Didn't joy use the "my beloved sky blues" line in her LR exclusive when no one was even sure what she looked like due to her noticeable absence and took the club away to Northampton?
That one smacks worse than anything any of the other parties have said to the press. It was like the husband who only beats his wife because he loves her line that wife beaters use to justify their indefensible actions.
Nick
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Yep, that sort of shit is just as bad. Leave the emotion out of it, it is business. Don't give it that shit, just get on with it. You don't look so silly at the end then.
Was it this one?
That reads like it is taking the piss out of Lucas?
I don't doubt some on SISU's side are guilty of it though
skybluetony176
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That's the one.
Nick
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Don't think it was seppalla saying it was her beloved sky blues, hence the inverted commas.
ccfc92
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If it was her saying it, I think we all know it wouldn't be genuine....
skybluefred
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Torchy you are missing the point. Sisu have just one aim in life--to make as much money as possible out of their venture into the football world.
If they owned the stadium and their brains could have worked out the revenue benefits of renting out the ground to other teams,
then teams from every conceivable sport would have been calling the Ricoh home.
torchomatic
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I would love to know about owners who DIDN'T want to make money.
Agree withvsecond bit anc sadly the chance is gone and its primarily a rugby venue.
Agree withvsecond bit anc sadly the chance is gone and its primarily a rugby venue.
This is from elsewhere on the web but I thought it sums the CCFC situation up perfectly. Perhaps if they had speculated on the stadium in 2007 then they would happily be doing this for years to come .
"Hedge funds often buy companies and seemingly run them into the ground. What they are really doing is leeching out capital through expensive loans and other financial sneakyness. The cash all gets spirited out to hedge funds through loans, derivatives, advisory fees etc. and leaves shareholders with nothing."
I've heard a rumour that come December it may be "Goodnight City"
"Hedge funds often buy companies and seemingly run them into the ground. What they are really doing is leeching out capital through expensive loans and other financial sneakyness. The cash all gets spirited out to hedge funds through loans, derivatives, advisory fees etc. and leaves shareholders with nothing."
I've heard a rumour that come December it may be "Goodnight City"
torchomatic
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A "rumour", eh? Still, come December Wasps roll into town with a Maltese hedge fund.
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This is from elsewhere on the web but I thought it sums the CCFC situation up perfectly. Perhaps if they had speculated on the stadium in 2007 then they would happily be doing this for years to come .
"Hedge funds often buy companies and seemingly run them into the ground. What they are really doing is leeching out capital through expensive loans and other financial sneakyness. The cash all gets spirited out to hedge funds through loans, derivatives, advisory fees etc. and leaves shareholders with nothing."
I've heard a rumour that come December it may be "Goodnight City"
Yeah, could be.. not a lot of forward planning seems to be going on.. but I'd be surprised if December is when plug is pulled, after all there is the Jan transfer window & there will be some players that will raise cash.
italiahorse
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Id sooner that than pay SISU £2M a year.
Nick
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Any basis on that? Id rather pay sisu 2m A year than wasps 10 trillion a year.
Just if we were randomly adding some abd changing names
italiahorse
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Any basis on that? Id rather pay sisu 2m A year than wasps 10 trillion a year.
Just if we were randomly adding some abd changing names
Thats the management fees they take each year according to their accounts.
Stop defending our idiot owners.
The Gentleman
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I take it by 'we' you mean Sisu/Otium?. Because I'm sure if Wasps didn't step in and buy then Sisu/Otium had an offer all set up and ready to go so 'we' could own the Ricoh.........
letsallsingtogether
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They had nothing in place for the Ricoh from what I have heard they have not even made an offer for the Higgs half, people are kidding themselves if they believe we would have ever owned the Ricoh or any other stadium while they are in charge. I believe it is now getting closer to Bye Bye Sisu.
The Gentleman
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We can only hope and pray (if you're that way inclined) to the last bit of what you said. You're right too about us never owning shit with Sisu/Otium in place. I like the way some people on this forum moan about Wasps jumping in like they gazumped Sisu/Otium.
Astute
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I have dear.
The 5.5m was an agreed price for Higgs where it was agreed that SISU would go into partnership with CCC. No veto was used as all sides were in agreement.....until Joy decided to offer the payments over 10 years with no guarantee of funds. When this was turned down Joy said that the arena was worthless but she would give Higgs 2m as they are a charity. Judge Higgingbottom pulled her up on this. After these offers were turned down it became all about the freehold or nothing.
You would know all of this if you had read the court transcripts dear.
Astute
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If you mean that they were willing to pay them money for the stadium instead of paying their legal team to try and get it cheaper then yes they gazumped them.
Nick
Administrator
Where did I defend anybody? Wait a minute and I'll make a dodgy graphic with a slogan of what they stand for.
italiahorse
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Once stood for ...
letsallsingtogether
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What do you stand for?
Your posting on here is completely different to what you come across as in person?
Nick it can be a bit confusing.
Too be fair you have calmed down a little bit
Nick
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What do you stand for?
Your posting on here is completely different to what you come across as in person?
Nick it can be a bit confusing.
Too be fair you have calmed down a little bit
Sisu is saving us
I stand the camp that all parties have fucked up, all are only in it for themselves and it's only the fans who actually care.
I've never once made a silly graphic loving sisu or done or said anything close, yet people who have now throw crap about
italiahorse
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Sisu is saving us
I stand the camp that all parties have fucked up, all are only in it for themselves and it's only the fans who actually care.
I've never once made a silly graphic loving sisu or done or said anything close, yet people who have now throw crap about
I stand by what I said ... At the time.
The dodgy graphic was a wind up that obviously worked.
Love it how you and Grendel have the ability, and the time, to dig up anything from the past to help your case in the current situation.
Most people supported SISU at the time they took over because to most of us it saved us from administration, apparently a fate worse than death at the time.
Looking back and knowing what I know now administration may have given the club more options. Particularly in picking a suitable owner.
torchomatic
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No, "we" to me is Coventry City Football Club. But yes, I take your point. I would rather SISU owned 50% than Wasps 100%. I still think having a slice of the pie means we will get rid of them quicker.
torchomatic
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I wish I had your confidence. I think they will did in deeper if they don't get any form of ownership.
letsallsingtogether
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Torch they haven't made a bid yet that is fact, how can they own if they don't bid?