No end in sight to agony of Sky Blues supporters (1 Viewer)

[Astute]

Personally, I don't think a sell out every week or 12 there every week would make much difference to the situation right now.

Do you really think that the atmosphere would be the same if only 12 turned up?

 

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[Nick]

Do you really think that the atmosphere would be the same if only 12 turned up?

I can't see where I said that? Do you mean the atmosphere at the game? It would be a lesser "roar" when we score, less of a groan when we let a goal in. I can safely say that anybody going to Sixfields isn't going for the Nou Camp atmosphere experience.


If you mean the atmosphere towards SISU. Yes there may be angry people, yes it might be in the telegraph but would SISU give a shite? I very much doubt it.

 

[Grendel]

No, it's a hypothesis. What we do know is that 1500 people quietly attending each week doesn't have the desired effect either.

If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you always got.

The non-attending hypothesis has as much weight as the full house hypothesis at the moment, both are untried.

What about the hundred from Northampton and all those freebies. There's only 500 who go any way so these would still go wouldn't they?

 

[Skyblueweeman]

JOHNSILLETS NOSE, what I think the article does is emphasise yet again how low we've sunk, that it is worse than we realise.
It reminds us, if we ever needed it, that it will probably get worse.
Barring a turnaround on a massive scale, our club won't be back in Coventry next season either. We have poisonous owners.
But, it seems, there is still a majority of fans on this forum at least who still have a 'wait and see' attitude. Letting Sisu dictate the scene. Instead of acting collectively to scupper them. Collectively fans are so powerful. I wish ours would wake up to this. A growing number are showing signs of fighting back but it is not enough as it is.
More of the fans are talking of an AFC, a strategy, a plan, to reclaim CCFC. Too late for next season allegedly, but Sphinx could be installed at the Ricoh. It's not ideal, I know that. But what is the alternative? JR, then a couple of appeals, more ghostly plans for tiny stadiums that will never be built? Locked into debt, clinging to the forlorn hope that the Football League will call Sisu's bluff? Fooling ourselves that a petition, however commendable, will change things.
Meanwhile our club dies a painful lingering death.
Make no mistake, Pressley being here has papered over horrendous cracks. You all know that. The summer will see a mass exodus if we are still in Northampton. Wilson, Moussa, Thomas, Fleck, Christie and others are all ambitious young men. They must hate playing in that empty ground. The manager too, he'll be dreaming of bigger things.

Sniff of Wembley and a fiver a ticket and approx. 30,000 care.

Shit situation and ask fans for signatures to try and get some further answers and we can only muster approx. half that....

 

[spider_ricoh]

I used to switch on the CT website every day expeCting news of SISU selling up - that feeling diminishes every day but I will never lose hope.

This whole saga is both wearying and unavoidable , like watching a slow motion car crash. My girlfriend has no interest at all in CCFC but knows the whole saga intimimately due to my constant rantings about SISU. The other day she turned round to me (mid-rant about Ray Ranson) and said "If you keep going on about the bloody Ricoh, you'll be a distressed asset"

 

[Nick]

I used to switch on the CT website every day expeCting news of SISU selling up - that feeling diminishes every day but I will never lose hope.

This whole saga is both wearying and unavoidable , like watching a slow motion car crash. My girlfriend has no interest at all in CCFC but knows the whole saga intimimately due to my constant rantings about SISU. The other day she turned round to me (mid-rant about Ray Ranson) and said "If you keep going on about the bloody Ricoh, you'll be a distressed asset"

Maybe that is the issue, people are getting so worked up about the Ricoh, talking about the Ricoh, going on about the Ricoh they actually forget about the football.

 

[skybluefred]

I used to switch on the CT website every day expeCting news of SISU selling up - that feeling diminishes every day but I will never lose hope.

This whole saga is both wearying and unavoidable , like watching a slow motion car crash. My girlfriend has no interest at all in CCFC but knows the whole saga intimimately due to my constant rantings about SISU. The other day she turned round to me (mid-rant about Ray Ranson) and said "If you keep going on about the bloody Ricoh, you'll be a distressed asset"

Take it you keep your legs crossed now.

 

[spider_ricoh]

Maybe that is the issue, people are getting so worked up about the Ricoh, talking about the Ricoh, going on about the Ricoh they actually forget about the football.

There's a lot in that - no matter how upset we all get, it won't make any difference at all sadly

 

[Spionkop]

Weeman, you use the word 'care' - I didn't use that word - read my post.
You also stress the apparent hopelessness of the e-petition - so do I (commendable as it is).
So I'm not sure what your point is?
I've no faith in nice and proper methods of solving our situation. Sisu fight dirty and so must we. Read my posts from months ago, peaceful pitch protests and the like. Forming an alternative and strategic team to offer as a spanner in Sisu's works. All possibilities. Not ideal for sure.
But a lot better than, 'well, we just have to see what next year brings, the judicial review, the appeal, the other appeal, etc etc etc attitude - what can we poor fans do? - kind of thing.'
As it is we're sleepwalking into another season at Sixfields. Letting Sisu run the show. FFP will cripple Pressley. Do nothing, that what you want?

 

[Spionkop]

Spider - don't be so defeatist.

 

[lordsummerisle]

I can't wait til we get back to the Ricoh aand we can go back to moaning about how "it's too big", "No atmosphere", "too far out of town", "parking is crap", "food and beer overpriced and too cold and warm respectively", and not being able to give away any spare tickets for love or money.

 

[The Gentleman]

I can't wait til we get back to the Ricoh aand we can go back to moaning about how "it's too big", "No atmosphere", "too far out of town", "parking is crap", "food and beer overpriced and too cold and warm respectively", and not being able to give away any spare tickets for love or money.

Why do you need to wait to get back to the Ricoh to say that? Could the same not be said for your points whilst we are at Sixfields? Nice to see people still being anti Ricoh whilst we play 35 miles from home.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Well I'd have more respect for 1500 fans watching Cov Sphinx at the Ricoh than the 1500 who watch CCFC at Sixfields.

Still, each to his own.

Good for you

 

[dongonzalos]

What's even more depressing is that certain posters on here seem to revel in this shite.

The facts we know:

1. The club overspent whilst at Highfield Rd, the murky goings on between 1995 and 2007 have never been scrutinised

2. The option to buy back Highfield Rd should have been taken up

3. The original rent of £1.2m should never have been agreed to

4. SISU's due diligence was abysmal as was Saint Joe and co's due diligence on SISU themselves

5. SISU's choice of Ranson then Delieu (sp) as Chairman and then Coleman, Boothroyd and Thorn as managers was also catastrophic

6. The failure of both parties to re-negotiate the rent in good faith was a disaster

7. The move to Northampton is a disaster

8. The club is absolutely fucked regardless of who the owners are. 107% of turnover on wages for a club that apparently "didn't spend enough" in that season says it all about the state of football

9. These articles bring nothing new to the table apart from allowing the author to pat himself on the back for another article highlighting problems without solutions

Your points are good
Shame you spoil it with your opening gambit

 

[dongonzalos]

What about the hundred from Northampton and all those freebies. There's only 500 who go any way so these would still go wouldn't they?

 

[lordsummerisle]

Why do you need to wait to get back to the Ricoh to say that? Could the same not be said for your points whilst we are at Sixfields? Nice to see people still being anti Ricoh whilst we play 35 miles from home.

I'm not saying that, but was the view of most on The Ricoh until a piece of concrete became more important than the football club to the majority of the fans and the owners.

Sisu and the fans a perfect match, as long as they get the Ricoh the club doesn't matter.

 

[Astute]

I can't wait til we get back to the Ricoh aand we can go back to moaning about how "it's too big", "No atmosphere", "too far out of town", "parking is crap", "food and beer overpriced and too cold and warm respectively", and not being able to give away any spare tickets for love or money.

Them moans you mention sound more like this seasons at Northampton.

 

[The Gentleman]

I'm not saying that, but was the view of most on The Ricoh until a piece of concrete became more important than the football club to the majority of the fans and the owners.

Sisu and the fans a perfect match, as long as they get the Ricoh the club doesn't matter.

I think despite what you may think, most would just want us back playing at the Ricoh first and foremost.

 

[spider_ricoh]

I can't wait til we get back to the Ricoh aand we can go back to moaning about how "it's too big", "No atmosphere", "too far out of town", "parking is crap", "food and beer overpriced and too cold and warm respectively", and not being able to give away any spare tickets for love or money.

Do me a favour - all that nonsense will start back up again the minute we get back there!

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Weeman, you use the word 'care' - I didn't use that word - read my post.
You also stress the apparent hopelessness of the e-petition - so do I (commendable as it is).
So I'm not sure what your point is?
I've no faith in nice and proper methods of solving our situation. Sisu fight dirty and so must we. Read my posts from months ago, peaceful pitch protests and the like. Forming an alternative and strategic team to offer as a spanner in Sisu's works. All possibilities. Not ideal for sure.
But a lot better than, 'well, we just have to see what next year brings, the judicial review, the appeal, the other appeal, etc etc etc attitude - what can we poor fans do? - kind of thing.'
As it is we're sleepwalking into another season at Sixfields. Letting Sisu run the show. FFP will cripple Pressley. Do nothing, that what you want?

I think you need to re-read my post again SK...I didn't say you used the word care did I? I didn't even para-phrase you???

My post wasn't meant as the 'the petition is hopeless'...I hope that it gets to 100k signatures and that further questions are asked. My point was that our fans are so apathetic, if I was a fan of another club, I'd be looking and thinking 'only 17,000 signatures...they obviously don't give a toss'.

As for doing nothing, that 'what I want'...obviously not. If you've paid any attention to the Petition thread, I'll happily take the credit for a couple of hundred signatures on that thread. I live on the South Coast so can't be more proactive locally...Michaels doing a commendable job. Off course I don't want nothing to happen. Preposterous assumption of a fellow CCFC fan!

WM

 

[Noggin]

I'm not saying that, but was the view of most on The Ricoh until a piece of concrete became more important than the football club to the majority of the fans and the owners.

Sisu and the fans a perfect match, as long as they get the Ricoh the club doesn't matter.

Thats nonsence, There is very little actual love for the Ricoh, it just is the best example of what we love (A quality stadium, home of the Sky Blues and in Coventry). If Sisu could build a 25k stadium in the city , that is modular for further expansion should it ever be required, have this stadium owned by the club so the club gets all revenues and doesn't pay rent, have this stadium ready for next season and do it without saddling the club with another 40mill in loans to arvo at 10% interest then we'd all be delighted and wouldn't care about the Ricoh at all, sisu would go from scum of the earth to heros overnight. Of course none of this is remotely plausible so the Ricoh remains not only our best hope but really our only hope of our club coming home, so thats why we constantly go on about it.

I can't wait til we get back to the Ricoh aand we can go back to moaning about how "it's too big", "No atmosphere", "too far out of town", "parking is crap", "food and beer overpriced and too cold and warm respectively", and not being able to give away any spare tickets for love or money.

and people should complain about some of that when we get back. too far out of town is a meaningless whine with no solution so no point saying that but the other problems with the Ricoh have solutions and until those solutions are implemented people should complain. ie blocking off parts of the stands, putting people together etc.

 

[Covstu]

I do love the fact we are now having a bitch about the Ricoh when we are no longer there!!!

 

[Noggin]

whose having a bitch about the Ricoh? not me

 

[georgehudson]

the only real bitch i'd be havin is about our owners,
who in over 7 years have shown zero interest in the club, players, staff, & fans,
who have, imho, all been continually used & abused, whilst the owners have hoist various persons upon us fans,
Igwe, Clouting, Brody, Dulieu, Fisher, etc., etc.,
i would also bitch in the direction of other parties, to a greater or lesser extent,
dependant upon the severity of decision making required, & the time when required,
FL, FA, ACL, CCC, etc.,
i also note that the last time in the courts, the judge, was a Sunderland fan,
no conspiracy theories though, of course

 

[hutch1972]

great post spionkop.

you are right, the fans have more power than they realise. A 100% boycott of Sixfields would have a massive impact on the FL yet there are still 1500 who are happy to go along and watch a game oblivious to the damage they're doing. You are also correct about the impact Sphinx could have by playing at the Ricoh.

No sphinx for me i'm afraid.

 

[Covstu]

A proper sphinx club will never take off and be fully backed by fans until we know what our fate is, SISU know this and are keeping us hanging on.

 

[shmmeee]

A proper sphinx club will never take off and be fully backed by fans until we know what our fate is, SISU know this and are keeping us hanging on.

*Phoenix club.

 

[wingy]

*Phoenix club.

Alright headmaster.

can you use red ink in future .

 

[georgehudson]

and another thing,
in every single aspect of life, the worst thing to lose is TRUST,
& that is what has happened,
the fans have lost trust in Sisu / Otium, or whatever they are called,
& trust is going to be the hardest thing to win back

 

[shmmeee]

Alright headmaster.

can you use red ink in future .

Just don't want him turning up at Sphinx Drive wondering where the rest of us are.

and (believe it or not) red ink is deemed "too agressive", it should be green