Andy Thorn on CWR (1 Viewer)

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

You can't please all the people all the time. (cliche :wave

When it comes to football and talking in cliche's AT one of a long line of offenders.

perhaps he's got a bet going with the players on how many he can work into his interviews... but even thats a cliche's these days.

GOD I need a drink .... and the season to start.. roll 3.00 tomorrow, it'll give me something else to think about :claping hands:

Early kick off tomorrow

 

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[cloughie]

it doesnt matter who's in charge there will always be some fans who find them annoying and go on a rant about them...

i cant stand our fans half the time, really bugs the hell out of me.

I agree reading some of the posts you would think we had lost the first 6 games of the season.
Unfortunately the gloom hanging over the club is due the finances /The board / lack of new players.
Yet some fans are looking for another scapegoat to take their frustrations out on and foolishly are now on ATs back, next they''ll start on the players.

 

[asiansmurf]

Football is full of cliche. Even the foreign players do it.

 

[Dinyull]

Oldskyblue - Mourhino is well know for a direct style of play.


Also, I wanted Thorn in charge, he proved in his spell last season he was the right man for the job and deserved the chance. However, I'm fully aware that he's never managed before (prior to his spell last season) and the upturn in for coincided with a manger the players hated playing for leaving so I'm not expecting miracles - especially with the shitty end of the stick he'd had in regard to money to spend.

 

[Dinyull]

When it comes to football and talking in cliche's AT one of a long line of offenders.

He doesn't speak using cliche's - he states the obvious. Saying ''Off the pitch what will be will be – if we get new players we do, if we don’t then I’ll go with what I’ve got.'' Not difficult to say something like '' we would like one or 2 more new faces but if not I'm confident with the group of lads we have'' - no?

 

[SkyBlueScottie]

I see your Pulis, Allardyce. match it with a Wenger and a Ferguson, raising you with a Redknapp.

 

[Dinyull]

Wow, using the top managers with buckets of money to spend and clubs to attract players too against managers who contstantly out perform their budget's.........

 

[oldskyblue58]

I really dont see why we are attaching such great importance to how he says things in a radio sound bite - it is important why ?

 

[Dinyull]

I never said it was important, just that it was starting to grate.

 

[NuneatonSkyBlue]

He doesn't speak using cliche's - he states the obvious. Saying ''Off the pitch what will be will be – if we get new players we do, if we don’t then I’ll go with what I’ve got.'' Not difficult to say something like '' we would like one or 2 more new faces but if not I'm confident with the group of lads we have'' - no?

Isn't that still stating the obvious? Or the same thing just in a different way?

 

[Dinyull]

No, because it's bigging up your players. Usually wanting 2 more would mean your not that confident in the squad.

 

[NuneatonSkyBlue]

No, because it's bigging up your players. Usually wanting 2 more would mean your not that confident in the squad.

So then he would be contridicting (sp?) himself? Saying he would like 1 or 2 more players, because he feels he needs them. Then saying if he can't then he's confident in what he's got????

 

[Dinyull]

Not at all. All managers want more players (too manay players!) it's money that stops it. Being confident (or at least saying it) doesn't mean the additions to the squad won't make it better.

 

[NuneatonSkyBlue]

Sorry im obviously reading your post in the wrong way they were intended to be. Because to me the original post i picked up on is saying the same thing just in a different way

 

[Otis]

Think people are getting things a little out of perspective here in talking about negativity and not backing and getting behind the club. All that is being said that Thorn at the moment is simply bringing out a load of old cliches in his interviews. No-one is saying we aren't going to back him or that he's going to be a bad manager or anything else for that matter. Just that he's bringing out a load of old cliches and that, that really gets our goat!!

 

[procdoc]

what's he supposed to say then? all managers use cliches!

 

[Otis]

Yes, but AT seems to have a Spinal Tap amp.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Wow, using the top managers with buckets of money to spend and clubs to attract players too against managers who contstantly out perform their budget's.........

Redknapp, Holloway and Hughton 3 managers good at getting the best out of there players, have worked on small budgets and are not known for playing hoofball as a Pulis or Allardyce

 

[PhilWasn'tBabb]

Redknapp, Holloway and Hughton 3 managers good at getting the best out of there players, have worked on small budgets and are not known for playing hoofball as a Pulis or Allardyce

I wouldn't say Redknapp works on a small budget, Portsmouth are still paying for that FA cup they won and will be for many years to come.

 

[Dinyull]

Redknapp, Holloway and Hughton 3 managers good at getting the best out of there players, have worked on small budgets and are not known for playing hoofball as a Pulis or Allardyce

Haha - Redknapp who was given all the funds in the world at Pompy (hence the situation they currently find themselves in).

I'll give you Holloway BUT Hughton doesn't play pretty football - he's pretty direct (not as bad as Pullis or Allardyce). Also, it's difficult to judge the job he did at Newcastle because in the Champ they had a Prem squad and in the Prem they had a decent squad. Be interesting to see what he does with Brum mind!

 

[Dinyull]

Anyway, my point was style of football doesn't help motivate players - as there are some good motivators who play god awful football.

 

[howzer]

i like Thorn, i think he is a solid bloke and is a breath of fresh air after the rubbish we heard from the last 3 managers. he is just a straight talker not a bullshitter. i think some fans can not accept the fact that he is simply saying, we have got what we have got and whining isnt going to change it. he is asking for support for the team. not promissing miracles or even a great season but he still shows good faith in the players he has. for a manager we cant ask any more from him. it is sown to the players now, and sisu to either invest or leave us threadbare, it is upto us as fans to turn on the board, not the players. I think we will certainly go down this year but at least we are the underdogs, and we have a fine tradition of surviving as underdogs. get behind the team and the manager guys .,.. in a way you have to feel sorry for the team, dont you think they would like to have had new players at the club? as long as they give 100% we could believe it or not have a really good season.