FL Slammed in Parliament (1 Viewer)

[SydneySkyBlue]

http://m.coventrycity-mad.co.uk/news/805777

The Football League have been described as "a not fit and capable organisation to run the national game" in an Early Day Motion to Parliament.

The Early Day 458 motion signed by Coventry MP's Bob Ainsworth and Jim Cunningham, Portsmouth MP Mike Hancox and Mansfield MP Alan Meale is as follows:

"That this House notes that the Football League's insolvency policy, as written, requires an owner wishing to move a club away from its traditional area to demonstrate a clear plan with timescales for its return; further notes that despite this, Greg Clarke, the Chairman of the Football League, has admitted that he does not know if the owners of Coventry City Football Club will build a stadium in the Coventry area in the next five years or if it is their intention ever to do so; calls on the Football League in light of this to alter its policy to reflect the actions it has taken in this case; believes that the policy should recognise that the League will back its member clubs right to move if they wish, for however long they wish, will require no commitments from them other than a demonstration that they have the funds to continue to run the club, will disregard the views of fans, will criticise those who build and pay for stadiums for clubs to play in, as he has done, even when a club withholds the rent and puts itself into administration in order to avoid its obligations; and, in light of this policy coupled with the serious administrative errors it has belatedly admitted, further believes that the League is not a fit and capable organisation to administer the national game."

 

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[hopesprings]

http://m.coventrycity-mad.co.uk/news/805777

The Football League have been described as "a not fit and capable organisation to run the national game" in an Early Day Motion to Parliament.

The Early Day 458 motion signed by Coventry MP's Bob Ainsworth and Jim Cunningham, Portsmouth MP Mike Hancox and Mansfield MP Alan Meale is as follows:

"That this House notes that the Football League's insolvency policy, as written, requires an owner wishing to move a club away from its traditional area to demonstrate a clear plan with timescales for its return; further notes that despite this, Greg Clarke, the Chairman of the Football League, has admitted that he does not know if the owners of Coventry City Football Club will build a stadium in the Coventry area in the next five years or if it is their intention ever to do so; calls on the Football League in light of this to alter its policy to reflect the actions it has taken in this case; believes that the policy should recognise that the League will back its member clubs right to move if they wish, for however long they wish, will require no commitments from them other than a demonstration that they have the funds to continue to run the club, will disregard the views of fans, will criticise those who build and pay for stadiums for clubs to play in, as he has done, even when a club withholds the rent and puts itself into administration in order to avoid its obligations; and, in light of this policy coupled with the serious administrative errors it has belatedly admitted, further believes that the League is not a fit and capable organisation to administer the national game."

Greg Clark (and I know he is leaving next month anyway) should be sacked his mis information through from March and subsequent deceit on CWR last month would have been enough to get any normal employee immediate dismissal. Nice to see that the in coming chairman has plenty of experience when it comes to clubs in financial disarray.. hope he isn't Joys guru!!!

 

[fernandopartridge]

Not being funny, but, is any of this going to assist in getting Coventry City back at the Ricoh Arena?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Again he believes that he is helping CCfc not go out of existence!!

 

[GaryPendrysEyes]

Not being funny, but, is any of this going to assist in getting Coventry City back at the Ricoh Arena?

Well it might help stop Sisu keeping the club out of Coventry for many years or indefinitely-- if you are interested in that.

 

[SydneySkyBlue]

Nothing to do with helping CCFC no. It's bringing the FL's failings to attention for the good of football in this country.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Well it might help stop Sisu keeping the club out of Coventry for many years or indefinitely-- if you are interested in that.

So you're saying it will help? What is the proposed outcome?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Again he believes that he is helping CCfc not go out of existence!!

Why did he never make any EDMs when the club's former owners decided to sell its home and lease it back?

 

[skybluetony176]

Not being funny, but, is any of this going to assist in getting Coventry City back at the Ricoh Arena?

maybe, maybe not. but looking forward lets say we get rid of shitsu and return to coventry in the next year the new owner get the club back to the premiership playing infront of a packed house and the ricoh is rocking, then in 10years time the club is sold again to another hedge fund that opperate with the same moral standards that shitsu have and they and it all unravells again and we end up back in league 1 upto our eyeballs in debt again. and the only reason they are allowed to do this because nothing has changed at FL.

i think people need to realise the implications of nothing changing at the FL and other teams fans need to cotton on to this as well before their club is allowed to slip into the hands of a shitsu.

 

[Hobo]

Might not get us back to the Ricoh but it might stop another club and another set of fans going through this process....this is about Football as much as it is about Coventry City

 

[fernandopartridge]

maybe, maybe not. but looking forward lets say we get rid of shitsu and return to coventry in the next year the new owner get the club back to the premiership playing infront of a packed house and the ricoh is rocking, then in 10years time the club is sold again to another hedge fund that opperate with the same moral standards that shitsu have and they and it all unravells again and we end up back in league 1 upto our eyeballs in debt again. and the only reason they are allowed to do this because nothing has changed at FL.

i think people need to realise the implications of nothing changing at the FL and other teams fans need to cotton on to this as well before their club is allowed to slip into the hands of a shitsu.

Absolute waffle.

 

[CarpyCov84]

Fair play to him least he's trying

 

[jesus-wept]

Not being funny, but, is any of this going to assist in getting Coventry City back at the Ricoh Arena?

Not about getting back to the Ricoh, it's about exposing the lies being spouted. All is slowly unravelling bit by bit, what else is there ? Fisher's unusually long silence is deafening and Sepalla's apparent admittance to Nikki Sinclair last week that she would consider selling the club as opposed to Fisher's constant "the club is not for sale, we are here for the long haul" mantra highlights a significant change I believe

 

[thaiskyblue]

maybe, maybe not. but looking forward lets say we get rid of shitsu and return to coventry in the next year the new owner get the club back to the premiership playing infront of a packed house and the ricoh is rocking, then in 10years time the club is sold again to another hedge fund that opperate with the same moral standards that shitsu have and they and it all unravells again and we end up back in league 1 upto our eyeballs in debt again. and the only reason they are allowed to do this because nothing has changed at FL.

i think people need to realise the implications of nothing changing at the FL and other teams fans need to cotton on to this as well before their club is allowed to slip into the hands of a shitsu.

BET sOUTHAMPTON FANS ARE RELIEVED, IT COULD HAVE BEEN THEM.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Not about getting back to the Ricoh, it's about exposing the lies being spouted. All is slowly unravelling bit by bit, what else is there ? Fisher's unusually long silence is deafening and Sepalla's apparent admittance to Nikki Sinclair last week that she would consider selling the club as opposed to Fisher's constant "the club is not for sale, we are here for the long haul" mantra highlights a significant change I believe

I am glad Fisher is keeping quiet. It's a relief that the statements coming out from the club are about on the field matters only at the moment. The only PR machine issuing statements about the Ricoh are ACL.

 

[GaryPendrysEyes]

I am glad Fisher is keeping quiet. It's a relief that the statements coming out from the club are about on the field matters only at the moment. The only PR machine issuing statements about the Ricoh are ACL.

Your ability to support Sisu and bury their 'practices' whatever they do to the club here and now, whilst criticising previous owners for what they did is simply absurd.
We need to scrutinise Sisu as our owners right now.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Your ability to support Sisu and bury their 'practices' whatever they do to the club here and now, whilst criticising previous owners for what they did is simply absurd.
We need to scrutinise Sisu as our owners right now.

I am not 'supporting SISU' I am completely ambivalent to all sides in this charade. All are purely seeking to protect their own interests, I only wish they would all be honest about it.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

"Ambivalent to all sides"??? Everything you post is in support of SISU!!! SISU have done this to CCFC...Nobody else!!!

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Why did he never make any EDMs when the club's former owners decided to sell its home and lease it back?

i meant Greg dyke and the football league

 

[fernandopartridge]

"Ambivalent to all sides"??? Everything you post is in support of SISU!!! SISU have done this to CCFC...Nobody else!!!

I thought the FL were to blame as well? Or are they not now? You lot contradict yourself all the bastard time.

 

[hopesprings]

Why is this absolute waffle? Explain

 

[skybluetony176]

Absolute waffle.

put me right then FP.

 

[dadgad]

This is excellent work by Ainsworth.
The disconnect between this and Dykes message is plain even to a blind man.
Football is crap and incapable of running itself.
Ultimately the evidence is on the pitch - unmitigated failure

 

[Hobo]

It's not waffle but put simply it is not just about Coventry it is about Football....companies like SiSU are just taking the piss....no football fan or club should be subject to this debacle.

Football League have played a massive part in our future and are trying to say they did us a favour...if they had spoke up at the start of the Administrative process we would have had a more realistic bidding process. They held answers as much as SISU but we're scared of the threat of litigation and new they had cocked up as much as SISU.

 

[ricohman]

Wasnt this same thing posted yesterday

 

[fernandopartridge]

put me right then FP.

The FL have already admitted they've made mistakes this time. It isn't their rules as such it's how they've been applied in this case. I think the admittance of errors would suggest that those mistakes won't be made again.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

@ FP... SISU are the ones who are ultimately responsible for the Clubs' situation...At least you are consistent in your backing of SISU "All the Bastard Time"

 

[fernandopartridge]

@ FP... SISU are the ones who are ultimately responsible for the Clubs' situation...At least you are consistent in your backing of SISU "All the Bastard Time"

Please point me in the direction to where I have backed SISU's decision to move CCFC to Northampton. Take as long as you like.

 

[hopesprings]

Please point me in the direction to where I have backed SISU's decision to move CCFC to Northampton. Take as long as you like.

"Not being funny" but the thread is titled "Football League slammed in parliament" it was you that brought getting back to the Ricoh into it!

 

[fernandopartridge]

"Not being funny" but the thread is titled "Football League slammed in parliament" it was you that brought getting back to the Ricoh into it!

You've taken the comment out of context, it was a direct response to SBK's comment about me "backing SISU all of the bastard time".

 

[skybluetony176]

The FL have already admitted they've made mistakes this time. It isn't their rules as such it's how they've been applied in this case. I think the admittance of errors would suggest that those mistakes won't be made again.

Absolute waffle

the problem is that currently all the FL's rules are subject to the FL's exceptional circumstances rule which means basicaly they can make the rules up as they go along, while this is in place they can be manipulated by any individual/hedgefund or consortium. if we have learnt nothing we have learnt that the FL will use this rule to complete their fixture list at any cost to the heart of football. THE FANS, ie you and me. if you dont think this needs addressing i worry about your mental well being.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

@ FP...You go out of your way to "Apologize" for SISU at every turn....Even your statement......."I am glad Fisher is keeping quiet. It's a relief that the statements coming out from the club are about on the field matters only at the moment. The only PR machine issuing statements about the Ricoh are ACL.".......See what I mean? Any chance to attack either CCC. or ACL. you will go for....whilst "It's a relief" rolls off your tounge in support of Fisher and SISU.

 

[hopesprings]

You've taken the comment out of context, it was a direct response to SBK's comment about me "backing SISU all of the bastard time".

Looking back in thread yours is the 3rd entry.................. after original and my response ..but hey ho not to worry

 

[fernandopartridge]

Absolute waffle

the problem is that currently all the FL's rules are subject to the FL's exceptional circumstances rule which means basicaly they can make the rules up as they go along, while this is in place they can be manipulated by any individual/hedgefund or consortium. if we have learnt nothing we have learnt that the FL will use this rule to complete their fixture list at any cost to the heart of football. THE FANS, ie you and me. if you dont think this needs addressing i worry about your mental well being.

Of course there should be exceptional circumstances. Like I say it's about how it's applied. If the rules were black and white CCFC may be no more.

 

[skybluetony176]

Of course there should be exceptional circumstances. Like I say it's about how it's applied. If the rules were black and white CCFC may be no more.

or shitsu may not be at ccfc any more, think about that. or we may not have even got to the position that we nearly went out of business for good, think about that. all clubs may actually live within their means making the playing field more even for a club of our size against other clubs of our size meaning directors like peter risdale wouldn't be able to obtain a lone based on potential on field performances (who did it get that loan of again, remind me), think about that.

the fl have been played, its as simple as that. the reason they have been played is because their systems are flawed.

people are always going to push the boundaries with laws, that's a given but what shouldn't happen is that the people who are responsible for the rules are assisting them. can you imagine a policeman stopping the traffic so a bank robbers get away car can get through, i don't see the difference in principle.