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Astute

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Or the offers coming in are so poor that even SISU wouldn't accept them expecting bigger bids to come in by 11pm
 
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longjohnskyblue

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But if we keep everyone surely you all have to give SISU some credit for not selling?

Why? If they invested in the club and brought in players not on a free maybe, but thats like saying you should be thankful to a bully not hitting you today!
 

Kingokings204

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To end this debate, someone will go. We are Coventry city (just) aren't we? its what we do. we sell
 

Noggin

New Member
If we keep all our players today sisu deserve some credit, no question.

Not sure a few kilograms of positives to add to the scale will do much to outweigh the tons of negatives on the other side though.
 

Sterling Archer

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Urgh, not this again. Every club is a "selling club", even your Man Utds and your Arsenals to a degree. All clubs at our level will find themselves to be "selling clubs".

Players come and go. Good players get interest from better clubs and they end up going to them. Such is [football] life.
 

thaiskyblue

New Member
Urgh, not this again. Every club is a "selling club", even your Man Utds and your Arsenals to a degree. All clubs at our level will find themselves to be "selling clubs".

Players come and go. Good players get interest from better clubs and they end up going to them. Such is [football] life.
well run clubs that back the manager, will sell at a good price, and will have replacements lined up. sisu just rely on freebies and the kids.
 

Astute

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Urgh, not this again. Every club is a "selling club", even your Man Utds and your Arsenals to a degree. All clubs at our level will find themselves to be "selling clubs".

Players come and go. Good players get interest from better clubs and they end up going to them. Such is [football] life.

But for a couple of years now our best players leave and we have to rely on youth players coming through to save us from relegation. Yet you seem to be happy with this.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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I would be up to about 10% in believing they will fund the losses for 3 years if no one left. It is currently about 5%.

If Wilson or Christie or both go it would be down to 0%
 

Sterling Archer

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But for a couple of years now our best players leave and we have to rely on youth players coming through to save us from relegation. Yet you seem to be happy with this.
Feel free to point out where I actually said I am happy with this or continue to make up statements I haven't made.
 

Warwickhunt

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We have let players go for a pittance! its about time we stuck it out and got decent money for the Christie's of this world if the twat Robbins wants him ring him back at 10:45 and tell him £1million or fuck off
 

RoboCCFC90

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well run clubs that back the manager, will sell at a good price, and will have replacements lined up. sisu just rely on freebies and the kids.

Oh so who have sold for peanuts while Stephen Pressley has been at the helm then?
 

Astute

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Feel free to point out where I actually said I am happy with this or continue to make up statements I haven't made.

Feel free to show any posts you have made showing you are unhappy with the way SISU have ruined our club.
 

RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
But for a couple of years now our best players leave and we have to rely on youth players coming through to save us from relegation. Yet you seem to be happy with this.

Why should we go out and spend money on players when we have young, talented and local lads who will play for the badge?
 

Astute

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Oh so who have sold for peanuts while Stephen Pressley has been at the helm then?

This is his first transfer window since clubs have seen our players and they have been fit. Come back at 11pm and tell us you told us so.
 

Sterling Archer

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well run clubs that back the manager, will sell at a good price, and will have replacements lined up. sisu just rely on freebies and the kids.
I really don't want to stick up for SISU but sometimes you get forced into it. Compare our transfer activity these last two years with all the other clubs in our league, its our level, we have to deal with it unfortunately.

The biggest mistake SISU made was not strengthening the side during the relegation season and they obviously paid for it with, yep you guessed it, relegation. Before that, they had made an outlay on players but even I'd be sceptical of paying money for players when you spunk £1.2m on Freddy Eastwood (cheers Coleman).

You need to remember, this isn't like football manager where you can simply go out and spend £1m on a new player every transfer window.

Its a balancing act living within our means and unfortunately that sometimes means selling players, just like 90% of clubs. Or you could argue 99% of clubs at our level below.

I don't like it but I do understand that the best way to make money in football is via making a profit on transfers. We've shafted ourselves in the back a few times by not tying up contracts and also shafted ourselves by tying shite players to long term, overpaid contracts. Its a fine balancing game which is hardly ever satisfactory unless you have a Sheik Mansour.

The new FFP rules will certainly make the next few years interesting.

Ignoring the stadium debacle, the only way Coventry City can run with its fan base and current stature in the football pyramid is by making a profit from the buying (or bringing through youth players) and selling of them at a profit.
 

Astute

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Why should we go out and spend money on players when we have young, talented and local lads who will play for the badge?

That worked 2 years ago when we were in the Championship.......didn't it.......
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RoboCCFC90

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This is his first transfer window since clubs have seen our players and they have been fit. Come back at 11pm and tell us you told us so.

Na I won't do that however I will sit here and have a little more belief, but maybe you and a few others will learn that the past doesn't always pave the future.
 

Sterling Archer

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Feel free to show any posts you have made showing you are unhappy with the way SISU have ruined our club.
Whats that got to do with the current debate at hand? Just admit you have basically made up something I haven't said to suit your agenda.

I am unhappy with the way SISU have run us.

Feel free to be an interent weirdo and go through my post history if you wish and you'll see when I'm not taking the piss out of the "acronym bleating, anti-SISU regardless of whats going on, Tell me I'm a great fan even though I don't know why I'm doing what I'm doing" brigade I am far from happy with the current state of our football club.

If thats not the case, please let me know what else I am thinking. Cheers.
 

Astute

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I really don't want to stick up for SISU but sometimes you get forced into it. Compare our transfer activity these last two years with all the other clubs in our league, its our level, we have to deal with it unfortunately.

The biggest mistake SISU made was not strengthening the side during the relegation season and they obviously paid for it with, yep you guessed it, relegation. Before that, they had made an outlay on players but even I'd be sceptical of paying money for players when you spunk £1.2m on Freddy Eastwood (cheers Coleman).

You need to remember, this isn't like football manager where you can simply go out and spend £1m on a new player every transfer window.

Its a balancing act living within our means and unfortunately that sometimes means selling players, just like 90% of clubs. Or you could argue 99% of clubs at our level below.

I don't like it but I do understand that the best way to make money in football is via making a profit on transfers. We've shafted ourselves in the back a few times by not tying up contracts and also shafted ourselves by tying shite players to long term, overpaid contracts. Its a fine balancing game which is hardly ever satisfactory unless you have a Sheik Mansour.

The new FFP rules will certainly make the next few years interesting.

Ignoring the stadium debacle, the only way Coventry City can run with its fan base and current stature in the football pyramid is by making a profit from the buying (or bringing through youth players) and selling of them at a profit.

I agree with all of this and is the same points I always make.......other than wanting to ignore the major problem of where we are playing ATM and the reason for this.
 

RoboCCFC90

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That worked 2 years ago when we were in the Championship.......didn't it.......
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The senior players brought in weren't good enough either.
 

Astute

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Whats that got to do with the current debate at hand? Just admit you have basically made up something I haven't said to suit your agenda.

I am unhappy with the way SISU have run us.

Feel free to be an interent weirdo and go through my post history if you wish and you'll see when I'm not taking the piss out of the "acronym bleating, anti-SISU regardless of whats going on, Tell me I'm a great fan even though I don't know why I'm doing what I'm doing" brigade I am far from happy with the current state of our football club.

If thats not the case, please let me know what else I am thinking. Cheers.

Answered your previous post whilst you done this one :)

Never had to look at any of your previous posts. I think you can see if I have looked at your profile. You always seem to jump on anyones back having a go at SISU. Most of us know the story of SISU and CCFC. It started off well but has gone downhill rapidly. Are we supposed to stay on their side until it is all over?

I now do not trust them. If we don't sell anyone today I will be a bit happier with them. If they are serious about getting us back in Coventry they should show us. New ground, talks on getting back to the Ricoh or anything else. Just give us a reason to believe them again. Until then I won't trust them at all.
 

Nick

Administrator
It is a big IF to be fair. I think since Waggot has come in he has been a bit more shrewd with dealings so we won't settle for anything less than we should.
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
I still think we should have put a bid in for Gareth Bale. We could have frightened off Real Madrid! :whistle:
 

Sterling Archer

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Answered your previous post whilst you done this one :)

Never had to look at any of your previous posts. I think you can see if I have looked at your profile. You always seem to jump on anyones back having a go at SISU. Most of us know the story of SISU and CCFC. It started off well but has gone downhill rapidly. Are we supposed to stay on their side until it is all over?

I now do not trust them. If we don't sell anyone today I will be a bit happier with them. If they are serious about getting us back in Coventry they should show us. New ground, talks on getting back to the Ricoh or anything else. Just give us a reason to believe them again. Until then I won't trust them at all.

I only jump on those who just scream out "NOPM" or turn a thread discussing the best striker we had in the 90's into another "SHITSU" thread or those who are actively looking for a pat on the back on the back for being a great fan because they aren't going to Northampton (like they told us in their last post, and the post before that).

I'm kind of like a shit, sarky, SBT forum police officer, if you will?

Wade through the dross on this site on this site and there's some excellent postings and well thought out reasons on both sides of the fence and even for those who like to get splinters in their arse.

I just like to see and judge every action on its own merits and not just presume that because a L1 Club may have to sell its best players its solely down to whoever isn't flavour of the month/season/decade.

I did have an irrational dislike of David Bell and Gary Deegan's inabilities as a footballers, for which I make no apology.
 

Astute

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I only jump on those who just scream out "NOPM" or turn a thread discussing the best striker we had in the 90's into another "SHITSU" thread or those who are actively looking for a pat on the back on the back for being a great fan because they aren't going to Northampton (like they told us in their last post, and the post before that).

I'm kind of like a shit, sarky, SBT forum police officer, if you will?

Wade through the dross on this site on this site and there's some excellent postings and well thought out reasons on both sides of the fence and even for those who like to get splinters in their arse.

I just like to see and judge every action on its own merits and not just presume that because a L1 Club may have to sell its best players its solely down to whoever isn't flavour of the month/season/decade.

I did have an irrational dislike of David Bell and Gary Deegan's inabilities as a footballers, for which I make no apology.

I fully agree with all of this. But where you seem to be on the side of SISU with the tone of your posts I will seem to be on the side of ACL. What gets to me is when posts are made where posters seem to be saying it is the fault of the greedy council. All sides are at fault, but to me SISU are more at fault than anyone else. Maybe ACL should have refinanced the mortgage at an earlier time.

It is a fact though that our club was saved by ACL getting together and getting the Ricoh built. We would have been homeless otherwise and paying 1m a year to rent Highfield road after selling it. There are many at fault for our present plight, but SISU could have handled the situation much better. We shouldn't be in Northampton. Our fans deserve much more. How long can they keep it up for? How much longer should our fans suffer?

It is about time they all got together and sorted all this crap out. ACL need our club. Our club needs the Ricoh. This means SISU. They need to pay a fair price. The charity should get their money back. Nobody should be left out of pocket for helping our club when needed.
 

ccfclinney

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I agree sisu do deserve credit for keeping better players if it happens !
could of easily said no income we need to sell and accept 300k for christie

Fair play to waggott and co if keep wilson,baker,christe and clarke
 

Sterling Archer

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I can assure you Astute that I'm not on anyone's side, apart from ours, the fans.

SISU, ACL, the Council, the previous regimes are all at fault to some degree.

This debacle really doesn't need to be an "Us Vs Them" situation between ACL and SISU. Both parties have been a "shower of bastards" throughout all this.
 
The time for any credit has long since gone. If they wanted any, they should have done the honourable thing and left once their investment had failed.

ccfcway is right, stockholm syndrome indeed.

I was wondering only a few hours ago if their wanting to keep players and achieve something in Northampton is simply down to spite. Surely none of us think they actually care about the club?

After all the more successful a Northampton based CCFC is, the more the club doesn't need to return and the more likely (if at all) that the Council gives in to their demands.
 
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