How else can we stop SISU/Fisher ? (7 Viewers)

[dadgad]

I just hope no one writes "SISU OUT" in weed killer on the Sixfields pitch !

Lordy! That'd be awfully awfully unlawful, wouldn't it?
Wats Sixfields security like, hope its good?

 

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[ohitsaidwalker king power]

I just hope no one writes "SISU OUT" in weed killer on the Sixfields pitch !

tut tut VOR..... voice of reason remember....

 

[bigfatronssba]

Like I suggested before, just let loads of fireworks off over sixfields, enough loud ones could cause enough of a distraction for the ref to stop play.

There's nothing illegal about letting fireworks off.

 

[quinn1971]

Why does the Club need to own a ground?

I understand why it needs the income streams but that is a different argument completely.

Your right it doesn't have to own it's ground but if we did we'd be way ahead than all the teams in this league.I agree it's not what the fans want but compare it to the other options and I'd take it.

 

[Voice_of_Reason]

More protests to Northampton Town's owners

 

[Samo]

I mean... fold

Don't be a dick, do you mean sell or liquidate?

 

[Seymour_East]

As I've said before... If we are going to put pressure on SISU, we go after Seppala. Hedge Funds are secretive by nature and so it would seem are thier owners. She hates the limelight, so we point it in her direction. Perhaps a 1/4 or 1/2 page advert in a national newspaper asking simply 'WHO IS JOY SEPPALA?' Or a wanted poster, for theft of a football club, offering a reward for each photo we receive of her.
National newspaper ads cost a lot of money of course but I will pledge £50 for starters. Maybe the Trust could organise a fund?

Bloody good idea...and it's never too late....what have we actually got to lose???

 

[Ripbuster]

Bloody good idea...and it's never too late....what have we actually got to lose???

£100 off VOR and £50 off Samo,that makes £150 to lose by my reckoning.:laugh:

 

[StevieM]

Unfortunately it has to get personal.
Nobody, not even hard faced hedge fund owners or their goon protected lacky bitches like personal.

 

[Spionkop]

WantedDOA, Bigfatronsba, NOW you're talking. Peaceful but mass protests is what is needed. NOBODY hurt. NO violence.
Just the idea that a reborn CCFC is on the cards has got to make the bastards think.
Is that right, no banning orders at Preston?
It shows all the doubters who put that forward as a reason not to do it -
Hey I'm 60 something but I'll be there if enough of us show some gumption. No good with 30 people got to be at least 250.

 

[SIR ERNIE]

Don't be a dick, do you mean sell or liquidate?

ah I see, you're not very bright and that makes me a dick.

 

[Godiva]

Pitch invasion is illegal - are there really people who ask fellow fans to risk banning orders and fines?
If you are catched and handed over to the police you risk a criminal record. It's hard enough to get a job ... it's not easier with a criminal record.

 

[Samo]

ah I see, you're not very bright and that makes me a dick.

No that doesnt make you a dick, I think it's probably your birth right. So which is it... sell or liquidate?

 

[James Smith]

I think it's too late.

Sisu have clearly set their minds on building their own stadium.
Some still believe they won't, that it's just a bluff with the aim of getting the Ricoh for nothing. Well that won't happen, and I would be amazed if they really think that could happen. They should know by now that neither the ccc or the Higgs will ever do a deal that will hand over the shares of ACL to sisu (or the club while sisu remain owners).

I read more and more posts saying that there were probably faults on both sides that lead to the current situation, but the reality is that we only want sisu to pay the damages. Various campaigns - no matter their name - calls for having the club at the Ricoh, but even if that happened the next step would be staying away from home matches to starve sisu out. If sisu/Fisher reads this forum, they know that. So going back to the Ricoh will not bring any redemption - they will never be accepted.

So their only chance to recoup some or all of their investment is actually to build a new stadium and in 7-10 years time sell the club and stadium as one viable business.
Having 2000 customers at the sixfields or having 6000 customers at the Ricoh in the interim period does not make any significant difference.

No MP or MEP can change the situation (but they can promote themself trying). The FL and FA can't change the situation (but they may be forced to review their rules and regulations to avoid similar situations). The council can't change the situation (even if they offered to rewind back to the HOT they agreed last year sisu would never go back). Higgs can't change the situation (although PWKH suggested new negotiations were possible if Fisher were replaced ... he didn't suggest he himself were replaced ... so that's not going to happen either).

Then surely the fans can change the situation?
I don't think so. If sisu already have made budgets with next to no customers at the games the next 3-5 years, then what power does the fans have?

I think it's too late.

I don't think SISU want ACL anymore (or possibly ever did) I think they want the freehold of the Ricoh dirt cheap based on what Mrs Lucas said about protecting a city asset. Tim seemed pretty confident that we'd be back supporting at Sixfields after three matches and I wonder if attendances are as good as yesterday after three matches whether he'll be as confident.

If they were actually planning on building the White Elephant stadium why haven't we heard anything by now about the plans which we were promised we would see within weeks? Also how many fans would they have to fill this stadium if we've been absent for 5 years from the city?

 

[covmark]

I think if fans were to disrupt matches sufficiently often then this would mean Ccfc being unable t fulfill fixtures.

The club would have to be shut down.

This would mean that a Phoenix club could start without the wreckage of the old club and the current idiots ruining it.

This is a way forward.

Not that I am recommending any law breaking, you understand.

biggest pile of crap I've read on here for ages, and that's saying something

 

[Spionkop]

Godiva, that is so feeble. Not meaning to be offensive, but it really is faint hearted.
Did you not read the comment on all those people on the pitch at Preston. Not one banning order.

 

[Godiva]

If they were actually planning on building the White Elephant stadium why haven't we heard anything by now about the plans which we were promised we would see within weeks? Also how many fans would they have to fill this stadium if we've been absent for 5 years from the city?

There have been sufficient 'smoke' to realize there must be a 'fire' - I am pretty confident they ARE going to build a new stadium.
First of all because that's the ONLY way they are ever going to recoup any money. If they can secure a reasonable site they will be able to do the project for a very modest outlay (funding). The selling of leases to other businesses will cover most of the construction costs ... if not all. Think back and remember how little money the council actually spent to secure the 118m project. The vast majority was funded by selling off land and leases. The sisu project may not be the same exactly, but the RA project is a good indication that it is possible.

It may take 4 or 5 years to complete. How many fans there will be at the opening depends on a lot of factors - one key factor is how the team is doing in the interim.
The protests won't last for 4 or 5 years ... it will slowly get quiet and become old news. At some point it will (again) be all about the team and if they are doing reasonably well the crowd at 'home' matches will increase.

 

[Samo]

Godiva, that is so feeble. Not meaning to be offensive, but it really is faint hearted.
Did you not read the comment on all those people on the pitch at Preston. Not one banning order.

It's all he has left Spionkop, he's a man who's painted himself into a corner. Like... Tim Fisher?

 

[Godiva]

Godiva, that is so feeble. Not meaning to be offensive, but it really is faint hearted.
Did you not read the comment on all those people on the pitch at Preston. Not one banning order.

I expect there were no banning orders because someone in power understood how sensitive the situation is. That is not something you can expect next time or the time after, it is illegal and at some point will be stopped.

 

[Godiva]

It's all he has left Spionkop, he's a man who's painted himself into a corner. Like... Tim Fisher?

And how is that?

 

[James Smith]

There have been sufficient 'smoke' to realize there must be a 'fire' - I am pretty confident they ARE going to build a new stadium.
First of all because that's the ONLY way they are ever going to recoup any money. If they can secure a reasonable site they will be able to do the project for a very modest outlay (funding). The selling of leases to other businesses will cover most of the construction costs ... if not all. Think back and remember how little money the council actually spent to secure the 118m project. The vast majority was funded by selling off land and leases. The sisu project may not be the same exactly, but the RA project is a good indication that it is possible.

It may take 4 or 5 years to complete. How many fans there will be at the opening depends on a lot of factors - one key factor is how the team is doing in the interim.
The protests won't last for 4 or 5 years ... it will slowly get quiet and become old news. At some point it will (again) be all about the team and if they are doing reasonably well the crowd at 'home' matches will increase.

Well as I've said before I'll attend the first match in the White Elephant and buy a premium seat, lunch beforehand, merchandise, snacks the whole 9 yards I'm that confident they won't actually build anything. I wait to be amazed by the plans if we ever see them.

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

There have been sufficient 'smoke' to realize there must be a 'fire' - I am pretty confident they ARE going to build a new stadium.
First of all because that's the ONLY way they are ever going to recoup any money. If they can secure a reasonable site they will be able to do the project for a very modest outlay (funding). The selling of leases to other businesses will cover most of the construction costs ... if not all. Think back and remember how little money the council actually spent to secure the 118m project. The vast majority was funded by selling off land and leases. The sisu project may not be the same exactly, but the RA project is a good indication that it is possible.

It may take 4 or 5 years to complete. How many fans there will be at the opening depends on a lot of factors - one key factor is how the team is doing in the interim.
The protests won't last for 4 or 5 years ... it will slowly get quiet and become old news. At some point it will (again) be all about the team and if they are doing reasonably well the crowd at 'home' matches will increase.

If what you are saying is true then why doesnt somebody just buy the land sell leases to to other businesses and save themselves the cost of building a stadium come to think of it why dont Sisu:thinking about:If what youre saying is true then the cost of the land would be higher

 

[Godiva]

Well as I've said before I'll attend the first match in the White Elephant and buy a premium seat, lunch beforehand, merchandise, snacks the whole 9 yards I'm that confident they won't actually build anything. I wait to be amazed by the plans if we ever see them.

Lol - they really should call it 'The White Elephant Stadium' ... isn't there a beer called Elephant they can sign as sponsor?

 

[Godiva]

If what you are saying is true then why doesnt somebody just buy the land sell leases to to other businesses and save themselves the cost of building a stadium come to think of it why dont Sisu:thinking about:If what youre saying is true then the cost of the land would be higher

I don't know if what I am saying is 'true' ... it's what I believe.
The scheme needs a venue that pulls in punters - that's the heart of the overall plan. You can't do it without the stadium.

 

[Buster]

There have been sufficient 'smoke' to realize there must be a 'fire' - I am pretty confident they ARE going to build a new stadium.
First of all because that's the ONLY way they are ever going to recoup any money. If they can secure a reasonable site they will be able to do the project for a very modest outlay (funding). The selling of leases to other businesses will cover most of the construction costs ... if not all. Think back and remember how little money the council actually spent to secure the 118m project. The vast majority was funded by selling off land and leases. The sisu project may not be the same exactly, but the RA project is a good indication that it is possible.

It may take 4 or 5 years to complete. How many fans there will be at the opening depends on a lot of factors - one key factor is how the team is doing in the interim.
The protests won't last for 4 or 5 years ... it will slowly get quiet and become old news. At some point it will (again) be all about the team and if they are doing reasonably well the crowd at 'home' matches will increase.

Your either repeating Fishers words or are experienced in developing stadia . If its the former I'd advise you change your mentor , he isn't really doing too well . If its the latter ,what businesses do you think you would put next to the Brandon speedway that would get planning?

 

[James Smith]

Lol - they really should call it 'The White Elephant Stadium' ... isn't there a beer called Elephant they can sign as sponsor?

I don't drink beer but a quick Google says yes brewed by the Blackwater Brewery apparently.

 

[chiefdave]

Lol - they really should call it 'The White Elephant Stadium' ... isn't there a beer called Elephant they can sign as sponsor?

obviously I'd like everything to work out well for CCFC but imagine if Tim builds his stadium outside of Coventry and still only has a few hundred people turning up. Think what the interview on CWR the next day would be like!

 

[Jack Griffin]

The way to force SISU's hand is put a winning team in the Ricoh starting next season.

I know a lot of people will bitch about that concept, but it sure is an effective tactic.