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skybluelee
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There are almost infinite permutations as to when the inevitable happens but it’s fact that we currently need 8 to be mathematically sure of top 2.
Balli001
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Earliest is Saturday depending on other results and us winning both games
Can someone post them here
I keep seeing comments about us possibly confirming promotion vs Sheff Weds. Some saying Blackburn/Portsmouth etc.
Some mentioning 8 more points to guarantee?
Anyone care to drop in the actual permutations?
Torquay Sky Blue
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So do we need 8 or 6 ? Previous posts are conflicting
Torquay Sky Blue
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Thanks , so what is Balli001 on about with his Saturday theory
Frank Sidebottom
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Can someone post them here
I keep seeing comments about us possibly confirming promotion vs Sheff Weds. Some saying Blackburn/Portsmouth etc.
Some mentioning 8 more points to guarantee?
Anyone care to drop in the actual permutations?
Will Coventry be promoted against Sheff Wed? Scenario Calculator
Pick every result and see if Coventry go up this weekend against Sheffield Wednesday. Try every combination in this interactive calculator by Sky Blues Blog.
www.skybluesblog.co.uk
Knock yourself out.
play_in_skyblue_stripes
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One game at a time.
If you discount a goal difference swing of 22 plus between Coventry and Middlesboro. I think promotion in theory could be confirmed on Friday night when Millwall play at West Brom.
Coventry beat Hull . 86 points
Middlesboro lose v Swansea(15 points behind with 5 to play) . 71 points
Millwall pick up less than 3 points in total v Norwich and West Brom(12 points or more behind with 4 to play). 72-74 points.
Unlikely but in theory possible. Lets not get carried away though and keep focussed on picking up points.
If you discount a goal difference swing of 22 plus between Coventry and Middlesboro. I think promotion in theory could be confirmed on Friday night when Millwall play at West Brom.
Coventry beat Hull . 86 points
Middlesboro lose v Swansea(15 points behind with 5 to play) . 71 points
Millwall pick up less than 3 points in total v Norwich and West Brom(12 points or more behind with 4 to play). 72-74 points.
Unlikely but in theory possible. Lets not get carried away though and keep focussed on picking up points.
We need a maximum of 8 points to secure promotion even with Millwall, Middlesbrough and Ipswich winning games as well.
If they're all dropping points, we need fewer points to secure promotion.
8 points puts us on 91
Millwall can only reach 90
Middlesbrough 89
Ipswich 93
With Middlesbrough and Ipswich still having to play each other, one of them is guaranteed to drop points.
Balli001
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We win both our next 2 games and Middlesbrough and Millwall drop points today then we are up on saturday
Torquay Sky Blue
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I get it now . Thanks
Gynnsthetonic
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6 if results go our way today and Friday
Gynnsthetonic
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Millwall could win today and drop points away at WBA on Friday as long as we win both and Middlesborough don't win today. Also if Ipswich only get 1 point out of their next 2
Torquay Sky Blue
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Come on Swansea, Norwich and er Brum ...spat it out
Calista
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Anyone else got a headache?Millwall could win today and drop points away at WBA on Friday as long as we win both and Middlesborough don't win today. Also if Ipswich only get 1 point out of their next 2
PUSB-We_are_going_up
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After today best case scenario we win we could go 14pts clear of 2nd.
If Boro end up 2nd by winning (12pts clear)
If Ipswich end up 2nd by winning (14pts clear)
Basically to win the league home to Sheff Weds we need all three to lose, but then it relies on Ipswich, Millwall, Boro losing today and next GW, I think Boro and Ipswich can draw both games for it to happen too
If Boro end up 2nd by winning (12pts clear)
If Ipswich end up 2nd by winning (14pts clear)
Basically to win the league home to Sheff Weds we need all three to lose, but then it relies on Ipswich, Millwall, Boro losing today and next GW, I think Boro and Ipswich can draw both games for it to happen too
Lamps
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Millwall v Norwich. Could go either way.
Swansea v Middlesbrough. Not many goals.
Ipswich v Birmingham. The calm before the storm. Recently failed to beat whipping boys Stoke and Leicester.
Can see dropped points here. But just in case there's always next weekend
Norwich v Ipswich should be a good battle.
A draw and defeat for Ipswich means they could only reach 88 points. A draw in either of the next two games for Millwall and Middleborough and 2 wins for us would not only secure promotion but would also make us Championship Champions with 4 games to go on 89 points.
Swansea v Middlesbrough. Not many goals.
Ipswich v Birmingham. The calm before the storm. Recently failed to beat whipping boys Stoke and Leicester.
Can see dropped points here. But just in case there's always next weekend
Norwich v Ipswich should be a good battle. A draw and defeat for Ipswich means they could only reach 88 points. A draw in either of the next two games for Millwall and Middleborough and 2 wins for us would not only secure promotion but would also make us Championship Champions with 4 games to go on 89 points.
lord_garrincha
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Like already said. It's 2 wins... then Millwall/Boro have to be perfect.
Sky Blue Harry H
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Best permutation I could find
Sky Blue Harry H
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Can you trust their maths, if they were counting with extra digits?I want all 6 games won to match Leicester from 23/24. They won 31 so I expect nothing more or nothing less
Frank Sidebottom
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Assuming we've already won the league, I would accept a loss against Portsmouth on the assumption that it will help send Leicester down.I want all 6 games won to match Leicester from 23/24. They won 31 so I expect nothing more or nothing less
There are only 4 games left after this coming weekend games, so in theory I think 2 more points would be enough for guaranteed 2nd providing enough results go our way, even accounting for games in hand.
Only if it actually confirmed it, which is unlikely.
Lamps
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We would be on 85 points.
If the other sides win a game each in the next 2 they could all still mathematically catch us up even if they lost the other game. We need to aim for 2 wins.
Lamps
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Let's see. Those below us have hit a sticky patch. It's possible to confirm the title at home to Sheffield Wednesday. We then play Blackburn before Portsmouth.
Ipswich are 14 points behind us with 8 games to go. If we win our next 2 games that's 20 points from 8 games. They've only won 1 in their last 4. If they didn't win either game it would be over before Blackburn.
Yes, I think you misread my post. To put it another way, after Saturday's games there are 4 left to play, (5 in Southampton's case).
To clinch 2nd we would need to be 13 points ahead of the chasing pack and16 ahead of Southampton.
We are currently 12 ahead of Boro, 11 ahead of Millwall, and 20 ahead of Southampton.
In that case only Ipswich could catch us. It would require some unexpected results but it's possible. That's why I said "in theory" responding to a post that stated "the earliest is Saturday depending on other results and us winning both games".
Mucca Mad Boys
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8 points guarantees it and that's assuming Millwall beat Norwich and WBA. One slip up and 89 points clinches it!
In short, the job is going to get done, it's a matter of when rather if.
