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[fernandopartridge]

This story is a bit mental. As much for the way it happened as the content.

A story was seeded in the Times at the weekend headlined 'HS2's latest challenge? Cutting the speed of its trains to save money'. The sub headline suggests a linear relationship between speed and cost with every 1mph costing £1bn.

The response from both railway enthusiasts and engineers was swift and unanimous. The article was complete nonsense that didn't stand up to the slightest bit of scrutiny. The response of the journalist to questions about why he hadn't fact checked this with anyone with the slightest understanding of railway engineering was met with a shrugging gif.

Then today the other foot drops:

So now our new high speed line may run at 125mph rather than the intended, and designed for, 224mph.

This would be the most ridiculous decision to date, would make the earlier decisions a waste of money to a greater extent. One of the major reasons it has cost so much to date is the insistence on the straightest possible route to allow for the fastest possible trains.

Reeves and co really are stupid stupid people utterly indoctrinated in the household budget analogy.

 

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[Captain Dart]

This story is a bit mental. As much for the way it happened as the content.

A story was seeded in the Times at the weekend headlined 'HS2's latest challenge? Cutting the speed of its trains to save money'. The sub headline suggests a linear relationship between speed and cost with every 1mph costing £1bn.

The response from both railway enthusiasts and engineers was swift and unanimous. The article was complete nonsense that didn't stand up to the slightest bit of scrutiny. The response of the journalist to questions about why he hadn't fact checked this with anyone with the slightest understanding of railway engineering was met with a shrugging gif.

Then today the other foot drops:

So now our new high speed line may run at 125mph rather than the intended, and designed for, 224mph.

I think it was always about building a parallel line to relieve the existing antiquated main line which has been getting less and less easy to keep going but it was politically unacceptable to admit.

 

[chiefdave]

I think it was always about building a parallel line to relieve the existing antiquated main line which has been getting less and less easy to keep going but it was politically unacceptable to admit.

The messaging was completely wrong from the start. The biggest benefit is by having a high capacity route between major cities you relieve the demands on the current infrastructure which can then run more, and less crowded, regional services.

But from day one the messaging was 'get to London a few minutes faster'. Which just meant anyone who didn't live or work in London didn't perceive much benefit while they experienced a lot of disruption.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

This story is a bit mental. As much for the way it happened as the content.

A story was seeded in the Times at the weekend headlined 'HS2's latest challenge? Cutting the speed of its trains to save money'. The sub headline suggests a linear relationship between speed and cost with every 1mph costing £1bn.

The response from both railway enthusiasts and engineers was swift and unanimous. The article was complete nonsense that didn't stand up to the slightest bit of scrutiny. The response of the journalist to questions about why he hadn't fact checked this with anyone with the slightest understanding of railway engineering was met with a shrugging gif.

Then today the other foot drops:

So now our new high speed line may run at 125mph rather than the intended, and designed for, 224mph.

The whole thing is genuinely a disgrace.

 

[ccfc1292]

The meltdown on Twitter about Farage going to Ipswich and doing a video promotion is absolutely biblical

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Reform MPs throw a hissy and leave PMQs because they don’t like the answer Starmer gave to Nige.

Ironic.

 

[torchomatic]

Reform MPs throw a hissy and leave PMQs because they don’t like the answer Starmer gave to Nige.

Ironic.

Coordinated stunt from the cunts.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Coordinated stunt from the cunts.

Impressed that Nige even turned up tbf.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Reform MPs throw a hissy and leave PMQs because they don’t like the answer Starmer gave to Nige.

Ironic.

What did they do?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Reform MPs throw a hissy and leave PMQs because they don’t like the answer Starmer gave to Nige.

Ironic.

 

[viridisman]

The meltdown on Twitter about Farage going to Ipswich and doing a video promotion is absolutely biblical

Honestly, R/Championship is fucking gold today.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Honestly, R/Championship is fucking gold today.

Need links

 

[viridisman]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Championship/s/fmhbMIfnhV

It's wall to wall piss taking

 

[Nick]

Ex-Tory justice minister 'used chemsex parties to inform government drug policies'

Crispin Blunt admitted possessing GBL, cannabis, methamphetamine and methylamphetamine and has been fined £1200.

news.sky.com

 

[skybluejelly]

The most embarrassing thing is that for every single question starmers answer is I didn’t joint the war against Iran .. are we going to hear it for the next for years until Labour are booted out

 

[viridisman]

The most embarrassing thing is that for every single question starmers answer is I didn’t joint the war against Iran .. are we going to hear it for the next for years until Labour are booted out

To be fair, I don't think I've ever seen him give a straight answer

 

[Grendel]

Ex-Tory justice minister 'used chemsex parties to inform government drug policies'

Crispin Blunt admitted possessing GBL, cannabis, methamphetamine and methylamphetamine and has been fined £1200.

news.sky.com

He will be voting Green next time

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

This is absolutely heartbreaking.

 

[Grendel]

Resident doctors now going on strike for 6 days. Yet Labour is the party of the unions.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

This is absolutely heartbreaking.

So sorry didn’t mean a smiley face! Terribly sad

 

[Captain Dart]

So sorry didn’t mean a smiley face! Terribly sad

Thank you for your correction, I admit I was astonished after seeing at the slip you made it didn't seem in character.

There are a lot of euthanasia stories on twitter at the moment particularly in relation to 'MAID offers' in Canada.
How true & accurate they are I don't know but the whole agenda troubles me.

 

[Marty]

This is absolutely heartbreaking.

Devastating, poor girl.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Resident doctors now going on strike for 6 days. Yet Labour is the party of the unions.

Dickhead Wes doing his tough guy act, the little weasel

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Resident doctors now going on strike for 6 days. Yet Labour is the party of the unions.

When the opposition is the party that opposes the right to strike it’s a pretty low bar to be the union party these days.

 

[MickM]

Dickhead Wes doing his tough guy act, the little weasel

Didn’t the government just accept the independent pay review body recommendation and offer that.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Dickhead Wes doing his tough guy act, the little weasel

Nothing to do with Streeting. Pay review board suggested 3.5% pay rise for docs which goverment accepted. Resident doctors/BMA decided that warranted going on strike again even though they’ve had about 30% pay rise over the past 3 years, during which they’ve also been on strike numerous times which has done nothing to help NHS productivity (which cumulatively has been poor since 2019)

Said it before they’re the worst type of capitalists in progressives clothing.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Nothing to do with Streeting. Pay review board suggested 3.5% pay rise for docs which goverment accepted. Resident doctors/BMA decided that warranted going on strike again even though they’ve had about 30% pay rise over the past 3 years, during which they’ve also been on strike numerous times which has done nothing to help NHS productivity (which cumulatively has been poor since 2019)

Said it before they’re the worst type of capitalists in progressives clothing.

If the government returned to collective bargaining with public sector unions instead of deferring it to these pay bodies it would probably lead to better outcomes including less industrial action.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Nothing to do with Streeting. Pay review board suggested 3.5% pay rise for docs which goverment accepted. Resident doctors/BMA decided that warranted going on strike again even though they’ve had about 30% pay rise over the past 3 years, during which they’ve also been on strike numerous times which has done nothing to help NHS productivity (which cumulatively has been poor since 2019)

Said it before they’re the worst type of capitalists in progressives clothing.

It's worth looking at the remit the PRB is given really. It is told in its letter from the SoS about the fact the Spending Review stating that all pay has to come from departmental budgets. So let's be honest it is hardly going to recommend anything other than broadly what ministers expect.

It is very strange that the MP independent pay board reached a different conclusion as to the level of increase for MPs. Of course the remit letter wouldn't have said anything about departmental budgets.