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eastwoodsdustman

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They have announced that the Gerald Ford has sailed to Crete for repairs following a ‘fire in the laundry room’.
Seems to have happened last week when Iran claimed that it had hot a US aircraft carrier and the same time Trump licked off begging for us to send ships.
Mmmhhh
 

CCFCSteve

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A lot happened overnight



Then Trump trying to calm things in his own way (belatedly realising this is the shit that you have to deal with when you’re fighting alongside people as volatile as you ie Netanyahu)

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What a mess. Let’s hope there’s some calm across the board and this doesnt escalate further
 

Sky Blue Pete

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A lot happened overnight



Then Trump trying to calm things in his own way (belatedly realising this is the shit that you have to deal with when you’re fighting alongside people as volatile as you ie Netanyahu)

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What a mess. Let’s hope there’s some calm across the board and this doesnt escalate further

Trump doesn’t understand de-escalation just threat after threat
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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As I say, it’s his way but by pointing the finger at Israel/Netanyahu he’s trying to contain something that’s getting out of his control
The other issue is Iran’s military actions are delegated heavily to local commanders who often act on their own initiative. You can try to make a deal with their superiors but that’s not actually any guarantee the subordinates will listen.

I’m sure he actually just wants to declare victory (ie admit defeat) and leave but his Israeli handlers won’t let him.
 

PVA

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Just a fucking shitshow, and so obvious it was going to go this way. The US (well, Trump) thought it would all be over after a few days of bombing.

And of course it's us that ends up paying for it, at the pump and with our energy bills.
 

Dougin

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This forum never ceases to amaze me.

From the things being posted it’s like you all want America / trump to fail and anything that makes Iran look good gets posted.

This is a country that has been funding terorrist atrocities against westernised / Christian people for the best part of 20 years.

This is why our way of life is doomed. How you can look in the mirror and post these things makes be sick to be honest.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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This forum never ceases to amaze me.

From the things being posted it’s like you all want America / trump to fail and anything that makes Iran look good gets posted.

This is a country that has been funding terorrist atrocities against westernised / Christian people for the best part of 20 years.

This is why our way of life is doomed. How you can look in the mirror and post these things makes be sick to be honest.
You are misunderstanding and misrepresenting pretty much everyone’s opinion
 

Farmer Jim

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This forum never ceases to amaze me.

From the things being posted it’s like you all want America / trump to fail and anything that makes Iran look good gets posted.

This is a country that has been funding terorrist atrocities against westernised / Christian people for the best part of 20 years.

This is why our way of life is doomed. How you can look in the mirror and post these things makes be sick to be honest.

I`ll hold my hands up.

I want Trump to fail at everything and I`m only sorry that the snipers bullet missed.

He`s currently the biggest danger to whole planet.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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He has succeeded in being the worst president of all time. In a different era where rules mattered he would have been impeached ages ago and now be standing trial along with many other criminals in his cabinet.

As for Iran, I want the regime to be changed, but I also don’t want the US and Israel deciding who takes over and bombing the country to pieces in the process.
 

PVA

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This forum never ceases to amaze me.

From the things being posted it’s like you all want America / trump to fail and anything that makes Iran look good gets posted.

This is a country that has been funding terorrist atrocities against westernised / Christian people for the best part of 20 years.

This is why our way of life is doomed. How you can look in the mirror and post these things makes be sick to be honest.

Nobody has a problem with taking out Khamenei and the regime.

The issue is there needed to be a proper plan in to do so, otherwise chaos would ensue and that is exactly what has happened.

And it's joe public like you and I that are going to pay for it.

Will you still be licking Trump's boots when it costs a fortune to fill your car up and your energy bills shoot up? Because that is coming very soon.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Nobody has a problem with taking out Khamenei and the regime.

The issue is there needed to be a proper plan in to do so, otherwise chaos would ensue and that is exactly what has happened.

And it's joe public like you and I that are going to pay for it.

Will you still be licking Trump's boots when it costs a fortune to fill your car up and your energy bills shoot up? Because that is coming very soon.
Yep already here and no he, like our whole media will seek to blame Starmer and Ed Milliband for trying to forge a cleaner way to provide energy
 

Dougin

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Nobody has a problem with taking out Khamenei and the regime.

The issue is there needed to be a proper plan in to do so, otherwise chaos would ensue and that is exactly what has happened.

And it's joe public like you and I that are going to pay for it.

Will you still be licking Trump's boots when it costs a fortune to fill your car up and your energy bills shoot up? Because that is coming very soon.
Joe Public like me?

Are you on a pedestal above that then bud?

Why is everything about cost, the problem with people like you is all you really care about is how much money you have and how easy your life is.

You dont really worry about right or wrong or the greater good. It’s all about you and your life. The same as the people who didnt vote for Brexit, it’s all about the money.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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He said that a former president has told him how he wished he'd attacked Iran as well, but won't say who it is.

Filing that one under either George W Bush or bullshit.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Labour should be hammering home the point that your bills are going up because of this war and that Reform and Tories have cheered it on and wanted us involved.
I don't buy that argument and I don't see the electorate buying it either.
 

Grendel

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Labour should be hammering home the point that your bills are going up because of this war and that Reform and Tories have cheered it on and wanted us involved.

Energy bills went up massively when we sanctioned Russia - I guess that was ok?
 

Grendel

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I don't buy that argument and I don't see the electorate buying it either.

The government can influence energy costs far more than the economic fluctuations by international incidents
 

PVA

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He said that a former president has told him how he wished he'd attacked Iran as well, but won't say who it is.

Filing that one under either George W Bush or bullshit.

They have all denied it, so it's firmly in the bullshit column.

Unless he claims to have spoken to a dead president.
 

Grendel

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Didnt you say you didnt care about that War as it didnt effect us in any way?

That’s my point - it doesn’t - energy bills are frozen anyway until June and the government policy can if it wants easily control fuel charges. It just chooses not to.
 

Grendel

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How do you mean? Both those things are factual - prices are going up because of the war and Reform want us involved in the war

They are going up anyway? If we didn’t let the airbases used they wouldn’t go up?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Joe Public like me?

Are you on a pedestal above that then bud?

Why is everything about cost, the problem with people like you is all you really care about is how much money you have and how easy your life is.

You dont really worry about right or wrong or the greater good. It’s all about you and your life. The same as the people who don’t vote for Brexit, it’s all about the money.
Many many reasons for voting remain
Many for me were an idea about right and wrong lol
In terms of right and wrong for an international based rules order is very very hard to work out
Making it binary is what has gone wrong in my lifetime

Just because there is a moral issue it doesn’t follow that there is a course of action that can make things better.

Add in the complexities of energy provision worldwide and you have to make extremely difficult decisions that will be morally repugnant based on our world view

You are doing what it appears trump and the evangelical right wing of Christianity would have you believe that all decisions are binary and good v evil when it’s way more nuanced than that
 

Grendel

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May not have been ok but it was certainly different
There was no reason for USA to do what they’ve done

so the public accepted the hike last time for the moral good?
 

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