Do you want to discuss boring politics? (14 Viewers)

[Nick]

Are they not a significant cohort?

You tell me?

 

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[Sky Blue Pete]

You tell me?

Think they are

 

[CCFCSteve]

The Labour leaflets pretending to be from a tactical vote company are out of order imo. No different to when the Conservatives made that fake fact checking account for one of the TV debates.

Anyway what are we expecting tonight? Assume given what we're told about the mood of the nation and a Reform landslide for the next government we're expecting an easy win for them with Labour and Greens nowhere to be found?

Greens massive favourites at the bookies. Frightening after seeing some of their campaign stuff but that’s the world we currently live in I guess

 

[Nick]

Think they are

Not that extreme for somebody from round the corner to suggest colonisation then is it? If you have to campaign in a foreign language, use things about topics in a foreign country to reach a "significant cohort"?

Make your mind up.

 

[Grendel]

Reform doing Reform things!

As opposed to I assume Labour doing Labour things? Why are we having this election?

 

[Grendel]

The Labour leaflets pretending to be from a tactical vote company are out of order imo. No different to when the Conservatives made that fake fact checking account for one of the TV debates.

Anyway what are we expecting tonight? Assume given what we're told about the mood of the nation and a Reform landslide for the next government we're expecting an easy win for them with Labour and Greens nowhere to be found?

no one is predicting that as you know but lovely try - another Amsterdam moment today!

 

[rob9872]

Would be a stroke of genius to be honest. I'd vote for him.

Oh I've just googled where it's happening. A few miles from where that weird thing happened at the mosque.

Wtf? Really

I made that up as a joke ... or is the joke on me now? You know im going to have to check!

 

[Nick]

Wtf? Really

I made that up as a joke ... or is the joke on me now? You know im going to have to check!

Oh no 2 separate things

I'd vote for John Davidson.

Separate, the mosque is just down the road from where they are battling for the Muslim community vote. call me cynical....

 

[rob9872]

Oh no 2 separate things

I'd vote for John Davidson.

Separate, the mosque is just down the road from where they are battling for the Muslim community vote. call me cynical...

Ah that makes sense. Ffs,serves me right I guess!

 

[Nick]

Ah that makes sense. Ffs,serves me right I guess!

Imagine him campaigning outside a mosque. There would be world war 3.

 

[Grendel]

The greens joining forces with a real Jew hater to try and win the seat is beyond belief really

 

[Nick]

The greens joining forces with a real Jew hater to try and win the seat is beyond belief really

Be an interesting mix at their parties.

It's always fun to see white people get tangled up when they are stuck between Islam and LGBTQ or women's rights. Who to back in a fight

 

[Grendel]

Be an interesting mix at their parties.

It's always fun to see white people get tangled up when they are stuck between Islam and LGBTQ or women's rights.

They basically have George Galloway whipping up the Muslim vote to go green - I doubt wind farms are of much interest

 

[Ccfcisparks]

The greens joining forces with a real Jew hater to try and win the seat is beyond belief really

Congratulations to Fatso on his coalition with the greens!

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Not that extreme for somebody from round the corner to suggest colonisation then is it? If you have to campaign in a foreign language, use things about topics in a foreign country to reach a "significant cohort"?

Make your mind up.

Monaco?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Not that extreme for somebody from round the corner to suggest colonisation then is it? If you have to campaign in a foreign language, use things about topics in a foreign country to reach a "significant cohort"?

Make your mind up.

By that measure Coventry was ‘colonised’ by Irish people in the 20th century and again by Asian people in the 60s and 70s.

People have short memories, this city has been driven by immigration of varying types for a long long time.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

By that measure Coventry was ‘colonised’ by Irish people in the 20th century and again by Asian people in the 60s and 70s.

People have short memories, this city has been driven by immigration of varying types for a long long time.

You are good engaging
I’m confused is it the every accusation is a confession

 

[Nick]

By that measure Coventry was ‘colonised’ by Irish people in the 20th century and again by Asian people in the 60s and 70s.

People have short memories, this city has been driven by immigration of varying types for a long long time.

Well that dodgy lawyer who tried to blag for those airport attackers was on the back of a flat bed waving a Gaza flag trying to get votes not so long ago......

Without a doubt, go and knock about by culworth court and see about that area.

Miles to go until it's as bad as parts of Birmingham though.

 

[Nick]

You are good engaging
I’m confused is it the every accusation is a confession

Literally "know you are say you are' level of response. Don't act as a lawyer for the nonce friends.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Literally "know you are say you are' level of response. Don't act as a lawyer for the nonce friends.

Does anyone understand this at all?

 

[Nick]

Does anyone understand this at all?

It's not hard to grasp, it was saying your response was shite and childish. Also, don't act as a lawyer to your sex offender mates. (Because your responses are shite and childish).

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

It's not hard to grasp, it was saying your response was shite and childish. Also, don't act as a lawyer to your sex offender mates. (Because your responses are shite and childish).

You don’t think it’s sensible when standing in a constituency with a significant Muslim cohort to appeal to them?

you also think that because they’re a large Muslim community that proves Jim Radcliffe was right to say that Manchester was and is being colonised?

and it’s ok cause he lives close

and I’m being childish ffs

 

[chiefdave]

Well that dodgy lawyer who tried to blag for those airport attackers was on the back of a flat bed waving a Gaza flag trying to get votes not so long ago

Yakoob? Thought he was looking at a nice long stretch inside for money laundering.

 

[Nick]

You don’t think it’s sensible when standing in a constituency with a significant Muslim cohort to appeal to them?

you also think that because they’re a large Muslim community that proves Jim Radcliffe was right to say that Manchester was and is being colonised?

and it’s ok cause he lives close

and I’m being childish ffs

What's childish?

If a significant cohort can't read or speak English and need policies based on specific foreign affairs to get their attention. That's kind of the definition of colonised isn't it?

 

[Nick]

Yakoob? Thought he was looking at a nice long stretch inside for money laundering.

This was a couple of years ago now.

 

[SBT]

What's childish?

If a significant cohort can't read or speak English and need policies based on specific foreign affairs to get their attention. That's kind of the definition of colonised isn't it?

Well not by any standard definition of colonisation it isn’t. What do you take it to mean?

 

[StrettoBoy]

If a significant cohort can't read or speak English and need policies based on specific foreign affairs to get their attention. That's kind of the definition of colonised isn't it?

No, I don't think so.

It's certainly a significant change in the ethnic, racial, cultural and/or religious profile of an area but it's not what I would call colonisation.

 

[Nick]

Well not by any standard definition of colonisation it isn’t. What do you take it to mean?

No integration, no effort to learn the language or culture
Politically motivated by issues abroad
Try to enforce policies based on the issues abroad and the laws
Parallel legal system
Parallel governance
Economy (also how many hundreds of millions are sent back to the other countries)

Few basic examples, I'm obviously not saying that whole of the UK is. More like particular areas.

 

[Nick]

No, I don't think so.

It's certainly a significant change in the ethnic, racial, cultural and/or religious profile of an area but it's not what I would call colonisation.

Happy to hear the other definitions and why it doesn't class as it though.

 

[SBT]

No integration, no effort to learn the language or culture
Politically motivated by issues abroad
Try to enforce policies based on the issues abroad and the laws
Parallel legal system
Parallel governance
Economy (also how many hundreds of millions are sent back to the other countries)

Few basic examples, I'm obviously not saying that whole of the UK is. More like particular areas.

Parallel governance? Economy? You’ve lost me here.

The mere presence of large numbers of foreign-born people speaking another language and not integrating does not mean a place has been colonised. Has Benidorm been colonised?

 

[rob9872]

Parallel governance? Economy? You’ve lost me here.

The mere presence of large numbers of foreign-born people speaking another language and not integrating does not mean a place has been colonised. Has Benidorm been colonised?

Every argument always refers to Brits in Spain as some kind of gotcha. If immigrants brought wealth with them and spent it here, I doubt we'd be having these discussions.

 

[Nick]

Parallel governance? Economy? You’ve lost me here.

The mere presence of large numbers of foreign-born people speaking another language and not integrating does not mean a place has been colonised. Has Benidorm been colonised?

Benidorm is a shit comparIson. Dave and Sharon aren't stood outside polling stations preaching about the Falklands.

You didn't tell me why it isn't classed as being colonised?

 

[SBT]

Benidorm is a shit comparIson. Dave and Sharon aren't stood outside polling stations preaching about the Falklands.

You didn't tell me why it isn't classed as being colonised?

Because the political and economic structures of this country haven’t been taken over in such a way as to be subservient to those of another one. That’s what a colony actually is, surely?

 

[Nick]

Because the political and economic structures of this country haven’t been taken over in such a way as to be subservient to those of another one. That’s what a colony actually is, surely?

I didn't say all of the country, I said particular areas.

You don't think anything political or economical in somewhere like sparkhill where that's an actual terrorist standing? You don't think political structures with things like the Muslim vote where they very much trying to force policies? What about when people live to their own laws?

How's the political structure going today?

 

[SBT]

I didn't say all of the country, I said particular areas.

You don't think anything political or economical in somewhere like sparkhill where that's an actual terrorist standing? You don't think political structures with things like the Muslim vote where they very much trying to force policies? What about when people live to their own laws?

How's the political structure going today?

Which other countries have taken over parts of the UK? Last I checked all the residents of Sparkhill are still subject to British laws, they still have to pay taxes to the British government etc. Our economic output isn’t arbitrarily seized or taxed by another country, nor are our elections subject to what another country’s government says we can do. The actual terrorist you mention is running in an election run by the British government, not by another country.

Again, you do know what a colony actually is right? You’re not just parroting what you heard Jim Ratcliffe say the other week?