The forgotten Ellis Simms (7 Viewers)

[wingy]

then he needs to move

Why would he do that when Haji has to sign first, just let things run their course,no need to shove him along just yet.

 

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[fernandopartridge]

Him and Eccles are doing well with in their ‘finishers’ role. Simms heading/hold up play is so much better compared to last year. Reckon he’ll grab some goals before seasons out as well

I thought they both did well when they came on last night

 

[clint van damme]

Whatever anyone on here thinks I'll be amazed if Simms is here next season.
Just don't think Lampard thinks much of him.

 

[covboy9]

In reality wright isn’t great and Simms is terrible but done his best

 

[jto123]

In the match thread you stated Simms should be starting away games which given his dire efforts the last game he started seems rather detached from reality

I mean, again, that is a separate debate. Yes, I do think Simms hold up play suits us better away from home. We have less possession away from home so that suits our style better (not that detached). Either way, that isn’t really anything to do with ‘moving him on’ as you mentioned, but happy to have that different debate.

 

[jto123]

Seems strange to single out Simms for praise after last night’s game, but even stranger to be singling him out for his overall performances this season.

Literally state in the op that it’s an odd acknowledgement. 10 goals in a season for the time played is an impressive return for the season.

 

[jto123]

In reality wright isn’t great and Simms is terrible but done his best

I agree. Neither would be a starter if we made it to the PL.

 

[SBT]

Literally state in the op that it’s an odd acknowledgement. 10 goals in a season for the time played is an impressive return for the season.

I think some of his critics from last season are now priced in to downplaying his contribution this year, which as you say has been very good.

 

[covcity4life]

I think some of his critics from last season are now priced in to downplaying his contribution this year, which as you say has been very good.

He has 10 goals which deserves praise

But let's not pretend he's been very good performance wise.

He very rarely uses his physical attributes

 

[BackRoomRummermill]

Who ?

 

[stevefloyd]

Im just stating what I think is the actual reality

The OP spent most of last nights match thread whining about Haji Wright and that Simms should be starting. Bit like you really.

To be fair I don't think Parks should be starting

 

[Macca]

He has done what has been asked of him as second choice which is to be commended. Not going to live long in the memory but could say that about many over the years

 

[stevefloyd]

Yes, that is what I said haha. You then said he should move on if that’s the case, which seemed a silly statement to me. All players will be frustrated if they’re not in the first team I would presume. Good management helps players see their value as part of a squad + plus a good attitude which Simms has demonstrated. You clearly think this is a Wright vs Simms debate which it is not.

I think his goals have outperformed his ability having said that he seems to have a knack of scoring goals and surprising us, he does or rather did look a bit of a donkey but I would think he is down the pecking order because Frank sees he has better players to play in that position, look at Asante ( not with short memories) he looked a massive mistake but fair play to him he started to score consistently but obviously got injured whereas Simms starts to score more regularly and 2 managers decide they want someone else to play instead of him, so lets leave the decision up to the most informed ie the manager and if he decides to play him lets hope he goes all guns blazing to show he can do it on a regular basis more consistently.
I will say I am not trying to destroy Simms here I have removed my rose tinted specs, if you disagree thats your perogative

 

[Torquay Sky Blue]

He's a non physical centre forward without the skill to back that up.
Nice bloke i'm sure but not a great player imo. He's lucky he can float around in a very good team.
He'll be gone in the summer.

 

[fatso]

He's a non physical centre forward without the skill to back that up.
Nice bloke i'm sure but not a great player imo. He's lucky he can float around in a very good team.
He'll be gone in the summer.

If we do go up we need far better strikers than Simms, Wright and BTA. The gulf in quality between the Championship and the PL is absolutely massive, and even though we are top scorers in this league, our squad won't cut it next season.

 

[stevefloyd]

Solomon Brandon Michael Clarke Thomas-Asante ......Feck me thats a mouthful

 

[jto123]

I think his goals have outperformed his ability having said that he seems to have a knack of scoring goals and surprising us, he does or rather did look a bit of a donkey but I would think he is down the pecking order because Frank sees he has better players to play in that position, look at Asante ( not with short memories) he looked a massive mistake but fair play to him he started to score consistently but obviously got injured whereas Simms starts to score more regularly and 2 managers decide they want someone else to play instead of him, so lets leave the decision up to the most informed ie the manager and if he decides to play him lets hope he goes all guns blazing to show he can do it on a regular basis more consistently.
I will say I am not trying to destroy Simms here I have removed my rose tinted specs, if you disagree thats your perogative

I don’t think that I would disagree with any of that and tbf I don’t think anything in the original post contradicts it.

 

[Speedie's Head]

If we do go up we need far better strikers than Simms, Wright and BTA. The gulf in quality between the Championship and the PL is absolutely massive, and even though we are top scorers in this league, our squad won't cut it next season.

We're not replacing Haji for under £20m probably more. I can't see King throwing money around like Sunderland have this season either and factor in the wages on top, it's a huge risk. Haji will stay if he wants to and if the WC doesn't make him unaffordable for us.

 

[Grendel]

If we do go up we need far better strikers than Simms, Wright and BTA. The gulf in quality between the Championship and the PL is absolutely massive, and even though we are top scorers in this league, our squad won't cut it next season.

Wright is one of the few capable of playing in the PL if we go up

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

He’s done a great job when called upon this season, he must have been suffering with an injury last season

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Think he’ll have a big part to play over the next few games