Do you want to discuss boring politics? (22 Viewers)

[Sick Boy]

Oh so it's the tax of not having kids and not the educating about the biology? Not sure I agree as they won't be using the NHS for the child birth, schools etc. The focus should be on stopping people firing shit loads of kids out and relying on the tax payer to pay for them. (Which obviously will be free reign with the cap going).

It's just too expensive to have a kid if you want to have a job as well.

Educating about biology

 

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[Ccfcisparks]

Educating about biology

They really think the general public is that stupid.

 

[Nick]

he wants to tax women who dont have children which is a bit sick really

It's not actually "sick" though is it?

 

[Nick]

Educating about biology

Just trying to figure out the outrage of educating on the risks of having kids when older?

He should have just suggested FGM and the people "outraged" would have stayed quiet.

 

[LarryGrayson]

It's not actually "sick" though is it?

yes it is not just punishing people for being responsible but also punishing people who cant have kids for whatever reason is just wrong

 

[Sick Boy]

Just trying to figure out the outrage of educating on the risks of having kids when older?

He should have just suggested FGM and the people "outraged" would have stayed quiet.

Come on, you can’t be that naive, surely?

 

[rob9872]

They really think the general public is that stupid.

To be fair Pete spent a couple of paragraphs on the last page explaining the difference between millions and billions for us.

I think we've all learnt something today.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

To be fair Pete spent a couple of paragraphs on the last page explaining the difference between millions and billions for us.

I think we've all learnt something today.

I'm not sure what you're talking about Rob!

 

[rob9872]

I don’t think we comprehend just how much £4bn is

in seconds a million is 11 days
A billion???? 31 years

billion is a thousand millions

it’s more than selfish

I'm not sure what you're talking about Rob!

 

[Nick]

Come on, you can’t be that naive, surely?

It's naive to ask what is outrageous about telling girls the risks of having kids in their 40s as opposed to their 20s? Let's face it, it's nothing like the Handmaids Tale like made out.

I am asking why people in this thread are so outraged by this but are very quick to be offended by people who have worries about hotels full of blokes who will have views that are decades behind ours when it comes to women?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Oh dont really get it but thanks!

 

[Ccfcisparks]

It's naive to ask what is outrageous about telling girls the risks of having kids in their 40s as opposed to their 20s? Let's face it, it's nothing like the Handmaids Tale like made out.

I am asking why people in this thread are so outraged by this but are very quick to be offended by people who have worries about hotels full of blokes who will have views that are decades behind ours when it comes to women?

He said he wants to tax women who don't have kids LOL

 

[SBAndy]

I think the massive financial issue of having a kid does need looking at. It's all well and good if somebody wants to just fire loads of kids out but never work a day in their life, not so much if both parents want to actually work.

100%. It’s more the auxiliary cost of kids: a house with sufficient space, the fucking water bill going through the roof because of bath time (went from £18 per month pre-child to £75 per month now), more food, and childcare.

As much as I think he’s a horrible bastard, Orban in Hungary has thrown a massive curveball with his proposal that any woman who has 2 kids will be exempt from income tax for life (don’t think their tax rate is as high as ours; may be wrong).

 

[Nick]

He said he wants to tax women who don't have kids LOL

Yeah, you can read that I responded to that bit?

I was replying to a post quoted me about the biology side of it.

For somebody who just said the public aren't that thick, you do a good job.

 

[SBAndy]

He should have just suggested FGM and the people "outraged" would have stayed quiet.

For someone who moans about others making up hypothetical scenarios, you don’t half do it yourself.

 

[Nick]

100%. It’s more the auxiliary cost of kids: a house with sufficient space, the fucking water bill going through the roof because of bath time (went from £18 per month pre-child to £75 per month now), more food, and childcare.

As much as I think he’s a horrible bastard, Orban in Hungary has thrown a massive curveball with his proposal that any woman who has 2 kids will be exempt from income tax for life (don’t think their tax rate is as high as ours; may be wrong).

I'd get behind that as well, encouragement to still work and have kids. Not sure what the average amount of tax somebody pays is here but a couple of hundred quid a month would help massively.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Yeah, you can read that I responded to that bit?

I was replying to a post quoted me about the biology side of it.

For somebody who just said the public aren't that thick, you do a good job.

The irony just as you post a sentence that makes no sense.

Theres irony when all you do is parrot.

On the football side its "oh but the ref's, oh but the wing backs"

On here its "oh but the boats, oh what about Tommy"

 

[Ccfcisparks]

For someone who moans about others making up hypothetical scenarios, you don’t half do it yourself.

Hes just a parrot, constantly countering any point with "what about the boats, what about Tommy"

 

[Nick]

For someone who moans about others making up hypothetical scenarios, you don’t half do it yourself.

That's not hypothetical, just pointing out the hypocrisy and people getting tied up by their outrage.

 

[Nick]

The irony just as you post a sentence that makes no sense.

Theres irony when all you do is parrot.

On the football side its "oh but the ref's, oh but the wing backs"

On here its "oh but the boats, oh what about Tommy"

It makes perfect sense. He was replying to my point about the biology, which is why I asked.

I'm still waiting for you to back your shit up from the last time I asked but you vanished.

You're just a shit Boosh wannabe, let's face it.

 

[Sick Boy]

That's not hypothetical, just pointing out the hypocrisy and people getting tied up by their outrage.

I literally posted about it 10 mins ago.

 

[SBAndy]

That's not hypothetical, just pointing out the hypocrisy and people getting tied up by their outrage.

“he should have just said” is literally the start of a hypothetical.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I literally posted about it 10 mins ago.

He's just clearly had a bad week considering by how he's been windmilling on here the last few days.

 

[Nick]

Hes just a parrot, constantly countering any point with "what about the boats, what about Tommy"

Where?

Is this coming from the gimp who tried to parrot something about South Park without actually having a clue what they are on about, to impress a WUM?

Post receipts about this "constant" thing you mention, you won't though. Just like every time, you just try for a pile on.

Typical bellend who stands at the back at school acting hard and will wait until somebody is on their arse before flying in and then running off.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Where?

Is this coming from the gimp who tried to parrot something about South Park without actually having a clue what they are on about, to impress a WUM?

Post receipts about this "constant" thing you mention, you won't though. Just like every time, you just try for a pile on.

Typical bellend who stands at the back at school acting hard and will wait until somebody is on their arse before flying in and then running off.

Wasn't speaking to you, mind your own.

 

[Nick]

He's just clearly had a bad week considering by how he's been windmilling on here the last few days.

Decent week to be fair.

You should try a windmill sometime, rather than just lurking at the back waiting for a Judas.

 

[Nick]

Wasn't speaking to you, mind your own.

As I thought, you won't back anything up you say. Best get the bat signal out.

 

[SBAndy]

I'd get behind that as well, encouragement to still work and have kids. Not sure what the average amount of tax somebody pays is here but a couple of hundred quid a month would help massively.

Anyway, to get back to the topic in hand, when we were looking at my partner going back we started doing some sums to work out the best plan. After using the free 15 hours’ childcare, you have the cost of that on top of hitting the income tax threshold which ended up meaning she’d have been working for about an extra £2.50 per hour. So she isn’t working as much because it’s just not a worthwhile trade-off.

 

[LarryGrayson]

Anyway, to get back to the topic in hand, when we were looking at my partner going back we started doing some sums to work out the best plan. After using the free 15 hours’ childcare, you have the cost of that on top of hitting the income tax threshold which ended up meaning she’d have been working for about an extra £2.50 per hour. So she isn’t working as much because it’s just not a worthwhile trade-off.

weve gone modern wife earns more then me so ive gone part time and keep him two days a week thing is though wife nearly died having him so she dont want no more regardless of cost punishing finiancially would be adding insult to injury

 

[Ccfcisparks]

As I thought, you won't back anything up you say. Best get the bat signal out.

Theres nothing to back up in reality. You've made yourself look like a fool by acting as if that video was a helpful public service announcement, rather than using it as an excuse to tax women who haven't or wont have kids. Its disgusting.

 

[Nick]

Anyway, to get back to the topic in hand, when we were looking at my partner going back we started doing some sums to work out the best plan. After using the free 15 hours’ childcare, you have the cost of that on top of hitting the income tax threshold which ended up meaning she’d have been working for about an extra £2.50 per hour. So she isn’t working as much because it’s just not a worthwhile trade-off.

It's madness, there's literally no reason sometimes to do it by the time you pay for the childcare.

There's no incentive for people who want to work but on the other hand you have people who don't work getting free play schemes and things in the holidays.... Make it make sense.

 

[Nick]

Theres nothing to back up in reality. You've made yourself look like a fool by acting as if that video was a helpful public service announcement, rather than using it as an excuse to tax women who haven't or wont have kids. Its disgusting.

Look, if you want to try and lurk around and jump in for a pile on then do it properly. A proper shit wum.

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[Ccfcisparks]

Yeah it's really disgusting.

Look, if you want to try and lurk around and jump in for a pile on then do it properly. A proper shit wum.

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So are you saying its not disgusting to want to tax Women who are unable to have kids?

You are such a weird bloke honestly.

 

[Nick]

weve gone modern wife earns more then me so ive gone part time and keep him two days a week thing is though wife nearly died having him so she dont want no more regardless of cost punishing finiancially would be adding insult to injury

Did you going part time make you forget how to spell and give you more time to wum as well?

 

[Nick]

So are you saying its not disgusting to want to tax Women who are unable to have kids?

You are such a weird bloke honestly.

Apologies, with that one I thought you meant I was disgusting.

I've literally said I don't agree with taxing in this thread? Even more so if women are literally unable to have a child. Was it suggested that people are still taxed even if they are unable to have kids? Again, I don't agree at all and have said that in this thread?