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shmmeee

shmmeee

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Norwich L
Stoke L
Birmingham L
Charlton D
Southampton D
PNE D
Ipswich L
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Yeah considering we’ve only lost 5 in the league and one was at home I should have realised.
 
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Macca

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All this inevitability of promotion was always bollocks. People saying after less than half a season that if we caught it would be failure, a disaster, unthinkable. Would they have said same if MR was still manager 🙄
 
Tommo1993

Tommo1993

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Won the league in December didn’t we? Opta this, opta that. My concerns about being eventually figured out were pooh-poohed. People actually thought we were the only team capable of putting together any decent form good enough to be unchallenged across a long 46 game season. They saw it as negative or whatever, but I think it was realistic, it was never gonna carry on. Some were discussing points records.

They look like they’re playing with a horrible pressure looming over them, but they’re human. The walls will continue to close in though if we don’t step out of what’s causing us to stumble - Tactically, mentally, physically, all of it. We needed an answer a while back and soon we’ll be out of lives if we don’t find one A lot of noise about Ipswich having a lot of away games coming up is another feeble assumption that we’ll be fine.

What I did notice last night pre match was one of the first things Lampard said about Boro being 3 behind us. Usually when asked a question relating to league position, he’ll say he’s/they’re not thinking about it. They’re feeling the pressure alright. Said all along that I don’t think we have the nerve to finish what we started, and I’m still there.

Our defence in general and our away form are set to scupper us.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Nor should the likes of myself use the forum as a venting tool immediately after a game...it is pretty cathartic though!

I will say though, I get why people think 'if you're like this about bottling promotion, you wouldn't stick around in the top flight when we're getting battered every week'. The thing is, I grew up with relegation battles, then getting relegated, then lots of time finishing in the bottom half and getting relegated a few more times...that's all par for the course and I'm cool with it.

It's having done so well in the first half of the season to be on course to achieve something really special then sliding into entering the record books for throwing it all away that would just be too much of a kick in the balls. The playoff final was one thing, and it hurt, but we were a very late comer to the playoffs and Luton had finished third...it was more their time than ours. For this though, it would be the collapse of legends only comparable to Keegan's Newcastle who still came second and took it to the last day.

It would leave me thinking that we're essentially never going to get back to the top flight.
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How many relegation battles did you witness? Cant have been many from the top flight
 
Brighton Sky Blue

Brighton Sky Blue

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Grendel said:
How many relegation battles did you witness? Cant have been many from the top flight
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The first I remember anything from was 95-96, then more of 96-97 and my dad cracking off champagne. We have been a bottom half/relegation battling club for most of the time from then till the last few seasons.
 
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quinn1971

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Not saying some are over reacting but we’ll keep winning at home and surely at some point we’ll start picking up points away, who honestly thought we’d be 8 points clear of 3rd with 17 games to go, I’m still convinced we’ll do it.
 
Evo1883

Evo1883

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Sky Blue Harry H said:
To all the I'm done with football posts, because of tonight........really? Frustrating yes. But it's one game out of hundreds following City (more like thousands). As chumbawotshisface said 'I get knocked down....' PUSB and feck anyone who says otherwise.
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Yes i dont understand the idea of supporting a club that was persistently wank through thick and thin but missing out on automatics is what broke you .

We as a fanbase are by default designed to cope with failure or upset .

We will be promoted
 
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Bigelvesy

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Tommo1993 said:
Won the league in December didn’t we? Opta this, opta that. My concerns about being eventually figured out were pooh-poohed. People actually thought we were the only team capable of putting together any decent form good enough to be unchallenged across a long 46 game season. They saw it as negative or whatever, but I think it was realistic, it was never gonna carry on. Some were discussing points records.

They look like they’re playing with a horrible pressure looming over them, but they’re human. The walls will continue to close in though if we don’t step out of what’s causing us to stumble - Tactically, mentally, physically, all of it. We needed an answer a while back and soon we’ll be out of lives if we don’t find one A lot of noise about Ipswich having a lot of away games coming up is another feeble assumption that we’ll be fine.

What I did notice last night pre match was one of the first things Lampard said about Boro being 3 behind us. Usually when asked a question relating to league position, he’ll say he’s/they’re not thinking about it. They’re feeling the pressure alright. Said all along that I don’t think we have the nerve to finish what we started, and I’m still there.

Our defence in general and our away form are set to scupper us.
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Hang on hang on hang on.
Our current away form, since December, has been bad.
But before that, We’d only lost to Wrexham, and had beaten both Middlesborough and Stoke who were the chasers at the time. We’d also beaten Millwall, Derby, Portsmouth and Sheffield Wednesday. The away form hasnt been bad until
this point.
 
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quinn1971

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Bigelvesy said:
Hang on hang on hang on.
Our current away form, since December, has been bad.
But before that, We’d only lost to Wrexham, and had beaten both Middlesborough and Stoke who were the chasers at the time. We’d also beaten Millwall, Derby, Portsmouth and Sheffield Wednesday. The away form hasnt been bad until
this point.
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Some are forgetting Ipswich’s away form is awful too, 1 win in 6, and they’ve got 4 away on the bounce, we’ve got 2 home games then, that gap can easily get bigger
 
Tommo1993

Tommo1993

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quinn1971 said:
Some are forgetting Ipswich’s away form is awful too, 1 win in 6, and they’ve got 4 away on the bounce, we’ve got 2 home games then, that gap can easily get bigger
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I mean if we’re going by the previous 6, Ipswich have bettered us away by 2 points. Your assumption of us winning our home games would be equal in fairness to assuming they’ll win at Portsmouth and Derby at least.
 
Tommo1993

Tommo1993

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quinn1971 said:
Exactly, we’ll find a way to start picking up points away again, put that on top of our home form and we’re fine, Ipswich have got a tough feb, they’ll have to go some to catch us
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As will they. We won’t just sleepwalk over the line, currently that’s where we’re at.
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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It's the hope that kills you! I was really gutted last night like many on here but its ridiculous really when you think about it though. We have been through so many poor seasons where we became almost desensitised to losing games and just accepted our fate. In those days we would have jumped at the prospect of being where we are now. Even with the odd defeat here and there we ought to be enjoying this season more than seems the case.

Instead of embracing and enjoying it though we are shitting ourselves where any defeat becomes a disaster of epic proportions, and all the players that have put us in this great position (maybe with the exception of Rushworth) are picked out for criticism. I guess that in reality its indicative that as a fanbase we are much more invested than previously, but we need to channel that more positively than has been expressed on this forum, as our nervousness will otherwise filter through to the players and our downfall will almost become self fulfilling.
 
Lamps

Lamps

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chiefdave said:
Yet we have people making out the lead is insurmountable and we have nothing to worry about..
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What we have is people stating the reasons for our drop of form including the flu going right through our squad with even MVE being sick on the pitch but continuing because there wasn't anyone to replace him and injuries to our 1st team at the same time. But this is constantly ignored.

We got most of our players back 3 games ago. 2 wins and a defeat away to a side we just can't beat these days for some reason who have some very good players and a manager that knows what he is doing. They were looking like relegation candidates before their new manager and new signings. One of them has scored 6 goals in his 6 games for the club and they've won 5 out of 6 games.

So since most of our players are back we've averaged 2 points a game. We're bringing on players as subs that were in our 1st team. We've got Esse who is all over the place and has 2 goals in 3 games yet hasn't played a full game yet. We've already played nearly every one of our hardest remaining games of the season.

Add to this Ipswich have been poor away and have a run of away games. Middlesbrough have been picking up points but have been lucky. They've not been playing well.

Yet I'm supposed to ignore everything above and go into a meltdown each time we lose a game. Of course the only guarantee we have is the playoffs unless we lose nearly all of our remaining games. But our home form has been great and we have 9 home games left. Just winning these games would put us on 85 points. I know we won't win all of them but we also won't lose every away game.
 
Hullinho87

Hullinho87

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Lamps said:
What we have is people stating the reasons for our drop of form including the flu going right through our squad with even MVE being sick on the pitch but continuing because there wasn't anyone to replace him and injuries to our 1st team at the same time. But this is constantly ignored.

We got most of our players back 3 games ago. 2 wins and a defeat away to a side we just can't beat these days for some reason who have some very good players and a manager that knows what he is doing. They were looking like relegation candidates before their new manager and new signings. One of them has scored 6 goals in his 6 games for the club and they've won 5 out of 6 games.

So since most of our players are back we've averaged 2 points a game. We're bringing on players as subs that were in our 1st team. We've got Esse who is all over the place and has 2 goals in 3 games yet hasn't played a full game yet. We've already played nearly every one of our hardest remaining games of the season.

Add to this Ipswich have been poor away and have a run of away games. Middlesbrough have been picking up points but have been lucky. They've not been playing well.

Yet I'm supposed to ignore everything above and go into a meltdown each time we lose a game. Of course the only guarantee we have is the playoffs unless we lose nearly all of our remaining games. But our home form has been great and we have 9 home games left. Just winning these games would put us on 85 points. I know we won't win all of them but we also won't lose every away game.
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Very few posters come on here (& all other club forums to be fair) to be positive, a large proportion do come on to be measured & balanced as I see it, majority come on to be reactionary & negative to provoke some sort of reaction.

‘Boro’s forum will be upbeat right now. However, if in a round of fixtures coming up, they drop points and both us and Ipswich win, they like us now will swing the other way.

If Ipswich lose to Preston this week, regardless of what us and ‘Boro do they will be raging.

Irrationality is the nature of the beast at this point of the season, always is and always will be.
 
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quinn1971

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chiefdave said:
People can be concerned at our recent form and transfer activity without it being a meltdown or bedwetting.

Not everything has to be one extreme or the other.
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It’s only our away form, and if we cut out the stupid mistakes we’d be more than 8 points clear of 3rd,
 
Otis

Otis

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clint van damme said:
Not sorting our away form will be enough to stop us getting in the autos.
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You could well be right, because the chances of winning all 9 home games will be slim. Bound sure to be a draw or 2 in there, or the odd defeat.

We need to sort out the away from and gain some points there too.

Next year's Championship worries me. You have Wrexham and Birmingham throwing money around like there's no tomorrow and then Boro and Ipswich are strengthening and then there's the three Premier clubs coming down to contend with, who could also be quite strong. You would expect Southampton to do a lot better too.

Could be such a competitive league next year.
 
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