25/26 January Transfer Window (98 Viewers)

[SBT]

Many players can lose form and not be as good the next season, I am not commenting on a single player, just saying that because a player has won a player of the season the year before than they are playing to the same level the next season.

It’s usually a pretty good indicator that they are a good player at that level, isn’t it?

We’re obviously not signing him but the urge from some people to talk down his ability in the Championship is strange.

 

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[jordan210]

So what's the up to date state of play. Half of Sunderland, Gus and Callum Wilson ?

 

[David O'Day]

It’s usually a pretty good indicator that they are a good player at that level, isn’t it?

We’re obviously not signing him but the urge from some people to talk down his ability in the Championship is strange.

No, it's an indicator that they were a very good player the year they won the award.

Even you can be claiming that a players form and abilities can't dip and even a very good player can end up not playing as well has he once has.

That is the argument you are making and it is frankly utter bollocks.

 

[SkyBlueDaly]

Doesn't Doug only sign players to potentially make a profit on? As a club we're not minted. There's no way he splashes money on Hamer.

 

[Sick Boy]

Doesn't Doug only sign players to potentially make a profit on? As a club we're not minted. There's no way he splashes money on Hamer.

No, we signed Grimes.

 

[SBT]

No, it's an indicator that they were a very good player the year they won the award.

Even you can be claiming that a players form and abilities can't dip and even a very good player can end up not playing as well has he once has.

That is the argument you are making and it is frankly utter bollocks.

Looking at the previous winners of the Championship POTS award, seems to me like the vast majority (if not all) of them either went up a level or continued to perform strongly.

If past performance isn’t a good indicator of current ability then what is?

 

[SkyBlueDaly]

No,

No, we signed Grimes.

True, but hes not going to keep splashing cash on players with no resale value, there's a balance to signing players like Grimes and players that will make money.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Looking at the previous winners of the Championship POTS award, seems to me like the vast majority (if not all) of them either went up a level or continued to perform strongly.

If past performance isn’t a good indicator of current ability then what is?

Current performance!

 

[edgy]

True, but hes not going to keep splashing cash on players with no resale value, there's a balance to signing players like Grimes and players that will make money.

Things have changed this season. There's a strong arguement that investment in the team now, will reap huge rewards in a couple of months.

Do we sit and hope we have enough, or do we invest in the team to increase our chances of that huge reward. I'd be disappointed if we don't do the latter.

 

[David O'Day]

Looking at the previous winners of the Championship POTS award, seems to me like the vast majority (if not all) of them either went up a level or continued to perform strongly.

If past performance isn’t a good indicator of current ability then what is?

And that is great but players can regress,

I'll tell you what is actually a good indicator of current ability, current performance.

We'll leave this here as you are talking shite yet again.

 

[David O'Day]

Current performance!

Barmy idea!

 

[David O'Day]

Current performance!

Also we can see why he keeps wanting Jordan Henderson in England squads

 

[Ccfcisparks]

You keep saying this but a players form is not a consistent metric over their career.

A player can win a player of the season award and then be nowhere near as good the next season so his POTY has very little value when taking into account Hamer's form and fitness this year.

As you where.

it’s as you were david LOL

Well if you are going off his whole career it’s more of a telling metric than his poor form. Since he’s came to England he’s always been a quality championship player

 

[SBT]

Current performance!

I don’t even disagree, but the suggestion a player’s track record counts for nothing is way off base.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Halfway though the window and we haven’t signed a midfielder in a position we need, got a weird feeling we won’t do anymore business and go with what we’ve got. Risky

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I don’t even disagree, but the suggestion a player’s track record counts for nothing is way off base.

Judging by the argument of some on here, then Wright is a spent force and Rudoni a one season wonder.

Hamer outside of this season has been an immense championship player for his 5 seasons In england except for the 1 season he was the best player in a shite prem team

 

[SleepyGinger]

You would play Esse where Torp plays?

Reminds me of when he guaranteed KKH will start the season at left back

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I don’t even disagree, but the suggestion a player’s track record counts for nothing is way off base.

The decision on whether or not someone's worth signing is based on what they have to offer now, not what they were offering last season. That's all really.

Weren't you saying we didn't even need a central midfielder?

 

[David O'Day]

it’s as you were david LOL

Well if you are going off his whole career it’s more of a telling metric than his poor form. Since he’s came to England he’s always been a quality championship player

Who's going off his whole career?

I haven't said that I am, I have just said that a player can regress even if he was really good the previous season.

You probably shouldn't pick on typos when you can't even read properly.

Better luck next time Brenda. Still props for keeping your web grift going

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Reminds me of when he guaranteed KKH will start the season at left back

the same poster said he would play Thomas upfronr rather than sign bamford

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Who's going off his whole career?

I haven't said that I am, I have just said that a player can regress even if he was really good the previous season.

You probably shouldn't pick on typos when you can't even read properly.

Better luck next time Brenda. Still props for keeping your web grift going

I win again it’s too easy with you

 

[SBT]

The decision on whether or not someone's worth signing is based on what they have to offer now, not what they were offering last season. That's all really.

Weren't you saying we didn't even need a central midfielder?

Well quite, but there are other ways of assessing a player’s ability to offer something beyond “did they play well last week”

I don’t think we’re going to sign Hamer and I certainly don’t think we need to in order to get promoted but I’m a romantic at heart…

 

[David O'Day]

Halfway though the window and we haven’t signed a midfielder in a position we need, got a weird feeling we won’t do anymore business and go with what we’ve got. Risky

Calm down, you were panicking that the Esse deal was off as we hadn't officially signed him 24 hours after the a report said he was coming to us.

There's plenty of time and if we do sign someone it's likely the first leak will be from the selling clubs side when the deal is almost done.

 

[Scoreamoto]

Halfway though the window and we haven’t signed a midfielder in a position we need, got a weird feeling we won’t do anymore business and go with what we’ve got. Risky

Worth mentioning that Grimes wasn't signed until the very end of January.

Sometimes you have to wait for the market to move before things fall in place.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Worth mentioning that Grimes wasn't signed until the very end of January.

Sometimes you have to wait for the market to move before things fall in place.

Unfortunately there’s points to pick up in January. We need to be proactive

 

[Scoreamoto]

Unfortunately there’s points to pick up in January. We need to be proactive

I get your point, but we're top of the league with the current squad.

Adding quality I personally don't think needs to be as rushed as some are making out.

Agree to disagree so this discussion doesn't go on for 400 pages.

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

 

[David O'Day]

I win again it’s too easy with you

Win? You made yourself look silly by claiming I had said something I didn't?

If your life is that shite that you have to make up "wins" on a football forum then crack on.

Really, "win" as much as you want.

 

[coop]

We definitely need a few players for the final push spending 10/15 million is a small amount if you get promotion.

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

 

[coop]

Did anyone confirm we were ever in for him?

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

Did anyone confirm we were ever in for him?

We were

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well quite, but there are other ways of assessing a player’s ability to offer something beyond “did they play well last week”

I don’t think we’re going to sign Hamer and I certainly don’t think we need to in order to get promoted but I’m a romantic at heart…

Well we've got over half a season of data to look at.

His on the ball stats are actually pretty strong this season, but his defensive ones are dreadful.

 

[David O'Day]

Well we've got over half a season of data to look at.

His on the ball stats are actually pretty strong this season, but his defensive ones are dreadful.

Probably one of many factors as to why his manager and the one before him play him further forward.

 

[Winny the Bish]

There is no doubt in my mind that Hamer would make us better.

I’m also 100% sure we won’t be in for him and people are going to get upset/angry for no reason.