Wright penalty decision (24 Viewers)

[David O'Day]

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The ball has been headed past Haji. In turning to chase it, he obstructs their player which knocks him to the ground. The ball's not within playing distance, so it's not shielding. Accidental on the part of both players.

but that's a still image and doesn't actually show what happened

you're wrong but that is up to you

 

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[wingy]

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The ball has been headed past Haji. In turning to chase it, he obstructs their player which knocks him to the ground. The ball's not within playing distance, so it's not shielding. Accidental on the part of both players.

Are you interpreting it right?.
Is not in a footrace there? the ball is way ahead, he appears to attempt to get his left leg I assume past Haji and after all that he's actually tugging him backwards which was my opinion at first sight?

 

[Warwickhunt]

In my opinion looked like he deliberately shoved his hand up EMC arse

The wife thought he grabbed his nuts

 

[wingy]

The wife thought he grabbed his nuts

That's what I thought but someone suggested it was finger poking.

 

[long way home]

Furlong definitely grabbed him and got the reaction he wanted. EMC lost his head and just took his eye off the game. It was a plan and it worked, they knew EMC was the dangerman and done a job on him.

Hope he learns but reports Furlong as that should not be something a player gets away with.

 

[Peter Billing Eyes]

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The ball has been headed past Haji. In turning to chase it, he obstructs their player which knocks him to the ground. The ball's not within playing distance, so it's not shielding. Accidental on the part of both players.

He doesn’t obstruct him, he’s chasing the ball and is ahead of their player. Have you ever tried running without moving your arms?

 

[Warwickhunt]

Furlong definitely grabbed him and got the reaction he wanted. EMC lost his head and just took his eye off the game. It was a plan and it worked, they knew EMC was the dangerman and done a job on him.

Hope he learns but reports Furlong as that should not be something a player gets away with.

It's basically a sexual assault ! It needs reporting

 

[Gaz71]

I think the petty shouts about the opposition ball position at corners and the Lampard’s right the refs are shite chant doesn’t do us any favours even though I agree with the latter.


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[Nuskyblue]

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Ball in play for just 45 minutes.

Well below the average of 55 minutes in the PL this season.

Not a suprise, the ref pandering to their antics all day.

Felt like the Burnley game last season, such a frustrating watch.

 

[Travs]

People saying "VAR gives it" and wanting VAR in the championship, should remember back a couple of seasons and what we are losing from the game with VAR.

Sooner have questionable refereeing decisions than VAR all day. Its a blight on the game.

 

[coop]

Wright's is a pen all day long anywhere else on the pitch its given as a free kick these refs give the softest touch anywhere on the pitch as a foul but have no balls for big decisions. We score that game changes.I think Sakas was one as well sat right by it.The ref kept giving them fouls all night the funniest was against Simms when he touch someone's head and he went down like he had been shot.Simms is a powder puff player with no aggression in him to his downfall.

 

[clint van damme]

People saying "VAR gives it" and wanting VAR in the championship, should remember back a couple of seasons and what we are losing from the game with VAR.

Sooner have questionable refereeing decisions than VAR all day. Its a blight on the game.

Agree. But if we go up we're going to need to get used to it.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

People saying "VAR gives it" and wanting VAR in the championship, should remember back a couple of seasons and what we are losing from the game with VAR.

Sooner have questionable refereeing decisions than VAR all day. Its a blight on the game.

I would rather have blatant mistakes like that corrected because they ruin the game more for me than a VAR check. Clear and obvious is what it was set up for.

 

[David O'Day]

I would rather have blatant mistakes like that corrected because they ruin the game more for me than a VAR check. Clear and obvious is what it was set up for.

yeah VAR is a good thing, how much it is used isn't

 

[Otis]

I would rather have blatant mistakes like that corrected because they ruin the game more for me than a VAR check. Clear and obvious is what it was set up for.

Exactly

It's the way they carry out the checks that is annoying. The system is fine if they learnt to use it properly.

Clear and obvious

 

[shmmeee]

Fuck me... we'll be golden when it evens out over the season!

Probably get accused of some kind of disloyalty for this. Their (horrible) player gets to the ball first, heading it past Haji, who can't get out of the way, resulting in the Ipswich guy being smashed backwards to the ground by Haji's arm, and that's why their legs tangle. I presume that's how the ref saw it.

What? The video is right there.

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The ball has been headed past Haji. In turning to chase it, he obstructs their player which knocks him to the ground. The ball's not within playing distance, so it's not shielding. Accidental on the part of both players.

Accidental means nothing. A clumsy foul is still a foul.

One of the worse habits of this place is people trying to be extra beard strokey and claim we are never fouled and should never have a pen. It’s clear as day have a day off.

 

[shmmeee]

Furlong definitely grabbed him and got the reaction he wanted. EMC lost his head and just took his eye off the game. It was a plan and it worked, they knew EMC was the dangerman and done a job on him.

Hope he learns but reports Furlong as that should not be something a player gets away with.

It’s sexual assault. I’m sure you could get a player to lose his head by committing all kinds of crimes. I hope EMC reports it to the police.

 

[Frostie]

Another angle

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It’s sexual assault. I’m sure you could get a player to lose his head by committing all kinds of crimes. I hope EMC reports it to the police.

Is there a replay of this?

 

[shmmeee]

Is there a replay of this?

Not that I’ve seen

 

[Great_Expectations]

We were really poor last night. The ref was absolutely horrendous.

Both things can, and are, true.

I missed the Furlong/EMC one. Would like to see the Sakamoto pen one too again - looked stonewall in real time.

 

[Essexrobbie]

Once again bad referring decisions go against us when it matters. Yet we are still top of the league and the chasing pack all beating one another. Ipswich have many more defeats in their locker this season I'm sure as they didn't impress me at all. If they couldn't score that first half when half of ours looked like they should have been in their sick bed then they are truly over egging their pudding.

 

[Travs]

I would rather have blatant mistakes like that corrected because they ruin the game more for me than a VAR check. Clear and obvious is what it was set up for.

We've still got fans who maintain that we were deliberately cheated out of the semi-final against Manchester United..... imagine what it'll be like after a couple of poor VAR in decisions in the Premier League.

Can't wait to not be able to celebrate a goal until someone in a TV studio tells us its ok.

The theory behind VAR is fine, but it doesn't work in football and it makes the game at the top level vastly inferior (mainly for those in the stadium)

 

[stupot07]

I would rather have blatant mistakes like that corrected because they ruin the game more for me than a VAR check. Clear and obvious is what it was set up for.

VAR doesn't even get it right half the time. And it's up to the VAR team what the referee ends up reviewing.

 

[Calista]

He doesn’t obstruct him, he’s chasing the ball and is ahead of their player. Have you ever tried running without moving your arms?

At the point of the obstruction I'm talking about, he definitely isn't chasing the ball. Their player is running, Haji is turning. I agree with David O'Day that he "moves across the defender", but the point is you can't do that when the ball has gone past you. The obstruction isn't deliberate, and nor is the consequent tangling of legs as their player is knocked backwards.

Would have been nice to get a pen at that stage of the game though, and on another day a ref might give it because it all happens in a split second.

 

[David O'Day]

At the point of the obstruction I'm talking about, he definitely isn't chasing the ball. Their player is running, Haji is turning. I agree with David O'Day that he "moves across the defender", but the point is you can't do that when the ball has gone past you. The obstruction isn't deliberate, and nor is the consequent tangling of legs as their player is knocked backwards.

Would have been nice to get a pen at that stage of the game though, and on another day a ref might give it because it all happens in a split second.

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they clearly show a largish gap between the defender and haji which the defender then closes and stumbles intio haji

it's a stonewall everyday of the week pen

 

[David O'Day]

This is the best video - shows that Haji is not actually moving "towards" the defender

 

[robbiethemole]

Maybe we should join with Forest and make an official complaint to PGMOL about refereeing standards, cos the fuckers we’ve had lately have been dogshit bad.

 

[Calista]

they clearly show a largish gap between the defender and haji which the defender then closes and stumbles intio haji

it's a stonewall everyday of the week pen

Fair enough, and like I say on another day we might have got it. But there are an increasing number of different versions of this stonewall pen on here now.

 

[Cally Fedora]

A bit torn on this. I’d say all three pens get given by VAR. But probably only the Saka one was one.

 

[Calista]

This is the best video - shows that Haji is not actually moving "towards" the defender

I agree. It's like you said before, he moves "across" the defender.

 

[David O'Day]

I agree. It's like you said before, he moves "across" the defender.

with a clear gap in between them when he makes the move

we are going around in circles here so i'll leave it now but it's one of the clearest pens i've seen in a long time

 

[Calista]

with a clear gap in between them when he makes the move

we are going around in circles here so i'll leave it now but it's one of the clearest pens i've seen in a long time

agree to disagree

 

[lord_garrincha]

From that vid... it looks a clear pen, to me... but each to their own.

Maybe our luck with decisions... pens not given, red cards (Hirst) etc. will even up in the run-in

 

[SBT]

People saying "VAR gives it" and wanting VAR in the championship, should remember back a couple of seasons and what we are losing from the game with VAR.

Sooner have questionable refereeing decisions than VAR all day. Its a blight on the game.

Always love the same fans who say the refs are incompetent insist that the solution is to give the same refs even more leeway to control the flow of the game and make big decisions based on what another ref watching on telly has seen.