Can we get to 50 points (8 Viewers)

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

If they’ve planned and worked on it, it’s very impressive indeed.

It's great to see as we'll need a Plan B and C if we're to be promoted. That kind of tactical proactiveness is going to make a huge difference, especially in games where we need to change things or chasing a lead.

 

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[Mucca Mad Boys]

If they’ve planned and worked on it, it’s very impressive indeed.

Without knowing how injuries will pan out, but could see us going 3-4-3 v Ipswich using a similar system. BTA and Haji will probably be out injured/returning and Rudoni may not be ready to start.

We went 3 atb v Pompey and it worked v well.

Something like:

Rushworth
MVE
Thomas
Kitching
KKH
Torp
Grimes
JDS
Sakamoto
Simms
EMC

I do like KKH and think he has great upside and his role will grow imo, he is v skillful, quick and direct.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It's great to see as we'll need a Plan B and C if we're to be promoted. That kind of tactical proactiveness is going to make a huge difference, especially in games where we need to change things or chasing a lead.

It shows they’ve thought about what teams might do against our set up, come up with an answer and practiced it. I really doubt Boro were expecting it.

 

[wingy]

It shows they’ve thought about what teams might do against our set up, come up with an answer and practiced it. I really doubt Boro were expecting it.

No but surprise won't so well from here.

 

[CovRes]

It shows they’ve thought about what teams might do against our set up, come up with an answer and practiced it. I really doubt Boro were expecting it.

Viveash described it as interesting. So no, I don't think he was expecting it, especially with Milan in the back 3.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Viveash described it as interesting. So no, I don't think he was expecting it, especially with Milan in the back 3.

Got a link of his post-match interview?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

It's open to interpretation because Lampard said 'which he [MVE] isn't used to' when talking about moving him to RCB. Which doesn't clarify the point you raised about whether it's a new role worked in training or an in the moment decision.

Three things makes me lean towards it being worked on in training:
1. Lati and Wolfenden were on the bench
2. Kitching's role was similar at LCB and he over/underlapped down the wing (which lead to the goal)
3. Game state - drawing 2-2 away at 2nd in the league isn't really the time to try something new imo

If they’ve worked on it and it works yes

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

It shows they’ve thought about what teams might do against our set up, come up with an answer and practiced it. I really doubt Boro were expecting it.

I think that's it really.

It sounds obvious as every coaching team should do it but rather than come up with templated formulas, it does seem like our backroom staff clearly look at each opposition in great detail and have a genuine understanding of where both their strengths and weak spots are - and in kind will come up with bespoke formulas to either quash those strengths or punish their weaknesses. Even if it means going a bit left field.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I think that's it really.

It sounds obvious as every coaching team should do it but rather than come up with templated formulas, it does seem like our backroom staff clearly look at each opposition in great detail and have a genuine understanding of where both their strengths and weak spots are - and in kind will come up with bespoke formulas to either quash those strengths or punish their weaknesses. Even if it means going a bit left field.

Middlesbrough by the way set the standard for how to play against us anyway, really impressive intensity, movement off the ball, basically going toe to toe with how we try to play. The problem for the rest is that not every team is set up as they are to pull it off.

Southampton wiped the floor with Lesta playing very similarly, that promises to be a very tough game indeed.

 

[SBAndy]

I think that's it really.

It sounds obvious as every coaching team should do it but rather than come up with templated formulas, it does seem like our backroom staff clearly look at each opposition in great detail and have a genuine understanding of where both their strengths and weak spots are - and in kind will come up with bespoke formulas to either quash those strengths or punish their weaknesses. Even if it means going a bit left field.

Equally, it's good to analyse how you'd play against your own system. No system is infallible so being aware of the weakness(es) and having the ability to adjust to protect those, like we did on Tuesday, is a brilliant sign.

 

[Sky_Blue_Daz]

The rhetoric of the Liverpool team of the late 70's and 80s was get to 40 points as quickly as possible, we've done that so lets get to 50 and go from there

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Middlesbrough by the way set the standard for how to play against us anyway, really impressive intensity, movement off the ball, basically going toe to toe with how we try to play. The problem for the rest is that not every team is set up as they are to pull it off.

Southampton wiped the floor with Lesta playing very similarly, that promises to be a very tough game indeed.

Also to add to the above a high press - see West Brom first half and Wrexham as examples. If you couple the high press with moving the ball quickly as well as hitting our channels we often get put on the back foot.

Conversely, as shown with Boro and in part West Brom although the red card was the real pendulum swing in that game, there's only so long a team can realistically keep that level of intensity up across a full game.

Once the gloves drop that's when we can really punish opposition.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Also to add to the above a high press - see West Brom first half and Wrexham as examples. If you couple the high press with moving the ball quickly as well as hitting our channels we often get put on the back foot.

Conversely, as shown with Boro and in part West Brom although the red card was the real pendulum swing in that game, there's only so long a team can realistically keep that level of intensity up across a full game.

Once the gloves drop that's when we can really punish opposition.

Football is moving that way, we've consistently gone route one on counter attacks and

The red card made a win feel like a 'done deal'. Cocky to say but even at 2-0, I never felt like we were going to lose, a sentiment shared by those in my group, we were creating chances and they happened to catch us on the counter a few times. WBA are one of the best '1st half' teams in the divisions but one of the worst in the 2nd half which played into that thinking.

 

[clint van damme]

I think that's it really.

It sounds obvious as every coaching team should do it but rather than come up with templated formulas, it does seem like our backroom staff clearly look at each opposition in great detail and have a genuine understanding of where both their strengths and weak spots are - and in kind will come up with bespoke formulas to either quash those strengths or punish their weaknesses. Even if it means going a bit left field.

Lampard has said before that you can never be sure what you'll come up against in the Championship and sometimes your game plan is out the window 10 minutes after kick off.

Good to know we can react so well to such unpredictability

 

[CovRes]

Got a link of his post-match interview?

I read it on Coventry live.

Adi Viveash shows his class with honest appraisal of Coventry City's victory

Coventry City match reaction from CoventryLive as we take a look at how former Sky Blues assistant Adi Viveash saw Tuesday night's match at the Riverside

www.coventrytelegraph.net

"I just felt (Jamie) Allen and (Jack) Rudoni gave them a little bit more control with the ball. It wasn’t turning over as much as we had turned it over. Kessler-Hayden coming in front of Van Ewijk I thought was quite an interesting tactical switch."

It's probably on YouTube as well.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Football is moving that way, we've consistently gone route one on counter attacks and

The red card made a win feel like a 'done deal'. Cocky to say but even at 2-0, I never felt like we were going to lose, a sentiment shared by those in my group, we were creating chances and they happened to catch us on the counter a few times. WBA are one of the best '1st half' teams in the divisions but one of the worst in the 2nd half which played into that thinking.

Neither did I really, but even before the red card I think the pendulum was already swinging in our favour. Their heads seemed to drop when Eccles' header went in. The fact they're a poor second half side possibly factored in that as they likely knew it wouldn't remain 2-1 for very long.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Lampard has said before that you can never be sure what you'll come up against in the Championship and sometimes your game plan is out the window 10 minutes after kick off.

Good to know we can react so well to such unpredictability

Throughout his career, whatever your opinion of it, Lampard has shown a lot of flexibility in his tactical approaches to games. He's not an ideologue like Russell Martin, Maresca or Kompany, who will not change approach irrespective of opposition or game state.

 

[SomersetSB]

As Bobby McFerrin said”Don’t worry be happy”
Just win every game until Christmas and the rest will still be saying “They haven’t played anyone yet”PUSB!!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Throughout his career, whatever your opinion of it, Lampard has shown a lot of flexibility in his tactical approaches to games. He's not an ideologue like Russell Martin, Maresca or Kompany, who will not change approach irrespective of opposition or game state.

Generally agree, but he was religiously sticking to the high line last season. I assume mostly just to get the team really experienced in one way of playing.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Lampard has said before that you can never be sure what you'll come up against in the Championship and sometimes your game plan is out the window 10 minutes after kick off.

Good to know we can react so well to such unpredictability

Of course. Formations change, players come in and out and style is tweaked but what it seems like is we can actually react to those variables very quickly.

Sheffield United, West Brom and Middlesbrough all have either started strongly or pushed us back first half but crumbled in the second. Our coaching staff clearly have a very good assessment of how to manage that unpredictably and really that boils down to not only talented coaching staff but an extensive amount of homework being done.

 

[SBAndy]

Generally agree, but he was religiously sticking to the high line last season. I assume mostly just to get the team really experienced in one way of playing.

See, the high line/offside trap that we deploy fairly regularly needs loads and loads of practice for it to work properly. Also probably struggle to recreate the scenario in training to the same level that you'll see in a game. Entirely possible that this was the basis of persisting with it for so long.

 

[clint van damme]

Throughout his career, whatever your opinion of it, Lampard has shown a lot of flexibility in his tactical approaches to games. He's not an ideologue like Russell Martin, Maresca or Kompany, who will not change approach irrespective of opposition or game state.

He did say the EPL is different. What you face is more predictable. But teams are so good at what they do that knowing how they're going to play is one thing, but stopping it isa different matter.

 

[shmmeee]

Generally agree, but he was religiously sticking to the high line last season. I assume mostly just to get the team really experienced in one way of playing.

Something clicked after Hull that has just taken us to another level. God knows what it was but suddenly all the bad habits of LampardBall we’d seen disappeared.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Something clicked after Hull that has just taken us to another level. God knows what it was but suddenly all the bad habits of LampardBall we’d seen disappeared.

Imagine if we played for 90 mins

 

[Otis]

We could lose all 3 and still be top

Indeed, but can leave you feeling a little nervous if that was to happen. Suddenly you don't feel as invincible and you have other sides breathing down your necks.

And that of course then leaves the possibility that you can be caught.

A win and 2 draws, or a win, a draw and a defeat, would be just fine out of those three

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Generally agree, but he was religiously sticking to the high line last season. I assume mostly just to get the team really experienced in one way of playing.

Last season was getting in and setting up a foundation of how we want to play, but without a preseason, it's probably quite difficult to set up multiple tactical approaches.

This season, the foundation is much the same but we're a lot more balanced in our approach. We're a lot more direct in areas without being a 'hoofball' team and when it comes to pressing, we're low on the 'defensive actions per press' but we close to the top of balls won in the final third - the pressing is much more targeted. The tactics are varied and we a lot of things v well.

 

[oneofourown]

Thankfully we have seen FL and his coaching team do have plan B and C and will use them as I think he will against Ipswich and Saints. If two or three of our strikers are out then have a more defensive team and play them on the break as we did against Boro.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The tactics is varied and we a lot of things v well.

Yeah boss man innit blad

 

[oakey]

Wasnt it Dasilva who let the cross get put in for Whittaker's goal? He got wrong footed and slipped.

No. It was Milan who dived in, slipped and the cross came in.

 

[JSL]

What was MVE doing on that side of the pitch? People are blaming Dasilva unfairly then

 

[CovRes]

What was MVE doing on that side of the pitch? People are blaming Dasilva unfairly then

It was from a corner. Recycled/2nd-phase, whatever you want to call it.

 

[SBAndy]

It was from a corner. Recycled/2nd-phase, whatever you want to call it.

Never really understood why full backs change sides on corners.

 

[sc1940]

Never really understood why full backs change sides on corners.

Because a right sided winger/wing back will cross the ball with their right foot but a right sided corner is taken with the left foot if the taker is facing the other direction. I guess it's about preference by the taker