Match Thread Middlesbrough - Coventry City Match Thread - Tuesday 25th Nov (69 Viewers)

[SBT]

So good from torp as well

It reminded me of another CM we used to have...

 

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[Londonccfcfan]

We hardly ever used to win midweek away ..hardest thing to do.

Big ticks....

Millwall....Portsmouth...Boro.

All midweek away. Wow

 

[baldy]

It reminded me of another CM we used to have...

Gary Deegan?

 

[Major Tom]

Love Thomas and Kitching

Good shot and stop for Thomas’s shot, we have champions luck at the moment the way it fell to Kitch’

 

[wingy]

Nor me , just spunked the clearance

It was on the volley according to cwr.

 

[ccfc1292]

Probably one of my best away days ever, think it beats the PO vs Boro.

Genuinely unbelievable result from us after fucking up 0-2.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Quote from the Boro forum:

'I think teams get beat by their reputation now, including us'

That’s a bold statement from a team with 2 shots on target…

 

[wingy]

the aforementioned "whey's" can he hearded even better here, also what a goal

BTA on hand to bury the Simms chance if it was parried or hitting the bar love it!

 

[wingy]

Noticed or I think I did saw both kitching and Bobby giving it some to the away support,or at least that's what I wanted it to be and not our own.

 

[CovRes]

the aforementioned "whey's" can he hearded even better here, also what a goal

It's the same when Kitching slips before getting the ball to Jay.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Except it didn’t, they had 1 shot on target all second half which was a 0.01 xG chance from Whittaker. They had threat, but we nullified them barring one chance that they missed.

Their first shot of the half was in the 71st minute, the Conway chance on 75 minutes and a shot in 89th.

By contrast, we had 10 shots, 50% of those on target and 2 big chances.

Edit: even the 1st half at 2-0, Whittaker’s goal
Was their only shot on target and only half decent chance they made. Other than that, they had shots outside the box or just inside it in traffic.

Give credit where it’s due, we defended well. Made tackles, got interceptions, blocked shots and won ground duals.

You're just randomly inserting stats which don't actually refer to the point I've made. Which I've noticed you're regularly guilty of.

 

[wingy]

Eeek yep crass that bloody hell

It's okay now all is forgiven. however I agree.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

You're just randomly inserting stats which don't actually refer to the point I've made. Which I've noticed you're regularly guilty of.

It’s not random at all. Your points are made to show that Boro exposed us, mine is the opposite and that we defended well as part of a game plan. The stats conveniently back up my argument because we limited them to 1.05 xG and 2 shots on target.

The difference here is that your views are mostly subjective whereas I use objective data to support my viewpoints.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Depends. Both those teams create a lot of xG but both of them are tracking below this.

Equally, if those teams leave themselves exposed, we’ll score goals. These teams have good underlying data metrics but our way form is better than both their home records.

I take games as they are, we’ve conceded 4 goals from 2.66 xG in the last 2 which is ‘concerning’ despite is a slight underperformance. Compared to Blackburn and Watford at home where we conceded 1 goal from 3.75 xG and the narrative was more positive.

To find common ground, I agree that Lampard needs to look at the last 2 and tweak the tactics to tighten up the defence.

They're only really still tracking below due to their first block of previous games where they were massively struggling to convert though aren't they?

Albeit it's a small sample to give an accurate measurement and window, especially for Southampton, but with performances seemingly improving signifcantly for both sides in recent weeks I would've thought that their xG is going to start to start trending upwards soon enough.

Similarly on the topic of their respective home form, both have had somewhat erratic starts to the season, again Southampton in particular, but their current turnaround in performances could suggest that previous home form is somewhat of a red herring and might not reflect where they actually are now in terms of consistency and underlying numbers.

It's more the manner of goals we've conceded that potentially points to a drop in defensive form / standards. All four in the last two have been sloppy, with Thomas' OG being just outright bizarre.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

It’s not random at all. Your points are made to show that Boro exposed us, mine is the opposite and that we defended well as part of a game plan. The stats conveniently back up my argument because we limited them to 1.05 xG and 2 shots on target.

The difference here is that your views are mostly subjective whereas I use objective data to support my viewpoints.

What in the ChatGPT are you on about. You've clearly not understood what I've said at all.

Do you actually come up with anything original or just use AI to attempt at responding to posts?

 

[Old Warwickshire lad]

Great win. Never had so many coke bottles thrown at me

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

What in the ChatGPT are you on about. You've clearly not understood what I've said at all.

Do you actually come up with anything original or just use AI to attempt at responding to posts?

I’ve understood you clearly, it’s your premise that I disagree with.

I’ll take the compliment though, safe travels home if you’re making your way home from
Middlesborough.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

I’ve understood you clearly, it’s your premise that I disagree with.

I’ll take the compliment though, safe travels home if you’re making your way home from
Middlesborough.

You haven't as you were nonsensically babbling on once again about xG.

I wouldn't take it as a compliment because it wasn't one.

 

[skyblue025]

Unfortunately I can't see him being let go unless a massive fee is offered. There would be numerous clubs interested, including prem. I don't think we had a buy agreement.
If he stays with us until the end of the season and we go up then who knows

He will only have a year left on his contract at the end of the season.

 

[Otis]

Am I right in saying that there were no bookings in the game at all last night? For either side.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Exactly, this is why I think if we’re going to crumble and fuck this up, it’ll be in December.

We lost away to Ipswich, Southampton, PNE and Birmingham in 23/24 a repeat of that would be damaging.

I think we’ll get 8 points from those games a that’s being slightly optimistic.

More than slightly. I can’t see more than 4.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Quote from the Boro forum:

'I think teams get beat by their reputation now, including us'

What does that even mean?

 

[Gibbo]

I think I 🩵 Liam Kitching

Kitching's fitness level is immense. He had to put in a long shift at the back. But was in the box for his second and then played in JDS to set up the 4th. He may not be the fastest and this level as high as he can go but his stamina is astonishing

 

[oneofourown]

There's no argument to make really. We were dreadful for large spells either half.

The commentators also said the same.

But we've got the win that's all that matters.

By the law of averages 60% of a game is dominated by the home team and 40% by the away. That LoA also would have the home side having a superior shot and passing count, that's why we look impressive. You can play badly for 80 minutes and well for 10 and score once of one shot, because the game is about scoring goals and we do for fun at the moment. If people are looking for perfection you'll never find it on the football pitch.
In Japanese culture they have an expression 'Wabi Sabi' roughly translated as 'embracing the beauty of imperfection' with simplicity, that's us.

 

[Gibbo]

I wonder just how many points we would have dropped without Rushworth, promising tho Dovin is. Is he the 10 point gap?


It's the confidence. First two goals involved first time strikes, by simms and grimes. Under Robins I was often frustrated by the unwillingness to do that. These are professional footballers, they train for this.

We look like Leeds last year and Ipswich in the cup. The lesser team competing hard but then being punished by clinical finishing

 

[Gibbo]

I am not quite sure how the formation changed when KKH came on. Can someone explain?

 

[Gibbo]

Oh and one other thing. It's going to have to be a bloody good goal to beat Simms' first for goal of the season

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I am not quite sure how the formation changed when KKH came on. Can someone explain?

We went to 3 at the back and Kkh and Dasilva the wing backs

 

[wingy]

What does that even mean?

Aura)

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Scored the same amount of goals as 2nd and 3rd in the league combined. Madness.View attachment 47379

Only 6 points between 4th and 17th, the league is so ridiculously competitive

 

[Gibbo]

We went to 3 at the back and

Thanks

 

[Perennial Lurker]

I am not quite sure how the formation changed when KKH came on. Can someone explain?

We pushed KKH and DaSilva out wide and had Kitching and MvE doubling up inside them . It nullified a lot of Boros play .
Was a huge gamble as if we lost it could've looked negative but it was genius , especially when Rudi and Allen came on and changed the momentum in our favour

 

[Gibbo]

Only 6 points between 4th and 17th, the league is so ridiculously competitive

And City old boys doing well - Robins and Eustace

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

And City old boys doing well - Robins and Eustace

I’m still struggling to believe my own eyes with that league table. Yes, Ipswich can go second with a good win at Blackburn, but for now nobody would have guessed that being the top 3 at this stage.

 

[wingy]

Oh and one other thing. It's going to have to be a bloody good goal to beat Simms' first for goal of the season

Great Ball from Torp for Ellis to just take the shot