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pusbccfc

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The Reverend Skyblue

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Watching the Arsenal vs spurs game, both of whom we will be playing against next season, and the fans look to be segregated by just a couple of seat widths , same for the Leeds game, so surely if they can manage having such a small gap can’t Cov
Yesterday it looked huge the segregated gaps, we lose out on selling those seats and it adds to the atmosphere by having fans closer
Are we barred having a small gap
Sorry if this has been covered before
 

skybluelee

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tbf the seats you could see empty on the TV, at least in the home end, were pretty much all seats that were sold and people that either couldn't be bothered when they saw the wether or somehow moved elsewhere a bit more out of the rain. The family zone was particularly bad for this.

Not sure you can draw too many conclusions about the seats in the block that only became available in the days before the match not being full.

What's the difference between average attendances when you compare A+ and B games? Not got time to work it out right now now so could be way off but some quick mental arithmetic looks to not be more than a few hundred. Suspect you'd have to see a much bigger difference for King to view it as a failure.
29.2K yesterday. Last year v West Brom (and cheaper prices) was 31.5K. Time will tell but I'm fully expecting 31K plus for Charlton.
 

Grendel

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There were loads of resale sold for Sheffield United.

If the game is sold out, why wouldn't you click a button to resell the ticket?

I honestly couldn’t be bothered
 

David O'Day

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10 years ago we were lucky to get 10,000 through the gate when there were huge gaping spaces throughout the ground, while our support base is now as high as its ever been. Yesterday was not terrible. You have have been banging on about the crowd for the West Brom game for weeks, so I guess your statement is a means of you further justifying that viewpoint.
Confirmation bias in action innit
 

bigfatronssba

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You're kidding yourself if you think 29K actually turned up. Tickets sold, yes but nowhere near that many actually attended the game.

That’s the same at every club
 

MTK

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Don’t believe it, will be the council staff skewing that.

Saying the average wage 40k, I know a lot of people and the vast majority earn nowhere near that.
There are plenty of employers in Coventry paying good wages. Not all the people working in these places live in Coventry though
 

skybluegod

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The only justifying I've saw is our fans defending the ticket prices...

The vast majority of our fans are now season ticket holders. Who in reality don't give a shit about the match to match ticket prices, like it or not that's the reality.

So rather than people defending it, they probably just don't care that much as it's not affect us. So they rightly see it as 'well of Doug makes extra money to spend on the club then so be it'
 

pusbccfc

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The vast majority of our fans are now season ticket holders. Who in reality don't give a shit about the match to match ticket prices, like it or not that's the reality.

So rather than people defending it, they probably just don't care that much as it's not affect us. So they rightly see it as 'well of Doug makes extra money to spend on the club then so be it'

Yep the classic example of not caring about something that doesn't affect them.

Let's hope we don't get charged £45 a ticket anywhere.
 

chiefdave

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29.2K yesterday. Last year v West Brom (and cheaper prices) was 31.5K. Time will tell but I'm fully expecting 31K plus for Charlton.
tbf that was a 3pm kick off on a bank holiday in April. Not sure you can really conclude much when you compare it to an early kick off in shit weather in November. Could just as easily point to the season before, cheaper tickets and 23,971 attendance but again not sure that really tells you much when you compare it to this season.

Ultimately I think King has access to far more data than us. While we can speculate 'make the tickets cheaper and make it back on beer' he, or whoever he trusts to do this, will have the figures in front of them when they're making these decisions.

We've also seen several u-turns when they've got things wrong on ticketing so we have to trust that if the current setup is 'wrong' it will be changed. The category system gives the flexibility to do that.

There's a different argument to be had over whether ticket prices for football should be suppressed below market level out of some sort of moral duty. But that's a very different thing.

We're in a position where we're complaining that the ground isn't totally sold out every week. Something we couldn't have imagined being an issue in the recent past.
 

wingy

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The vast majority of our fans are now season ticket holders. Who in reality don't give a shit about the match to match ticket prices, like it or not that's the reality.

So rather than people defending it, they probably just don't care that much as it's not affect us. So they rightly see it as 'well of Doug makes extra money to spend on the club then so be it'
Home yes but not good for away fans though and I emphasize our away fans who are copping for it as well.
 

skybluegod

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Home yes but not good for away fans though and I emphasize our away fans who are copping for it as well.

Again it links into the point of that's 2000 people. Doug will push to get away with everything he can to squeeze revenue.

I'm not slagging him off or saying it's right or wrong. It's just the reality.

The fact is Doug knows those that travel to every away game will continue to do so no matter the cost pretty much as they are the same people that were turning up when Simeon Jackson and Marcus Tudgay were playing for us.
 

Londonccfcfan

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Yep. 7 tickets left in the entire stadium for Swansea unless they have any additional pockets to open. Impressive.

I'm still expecting a sell-out for Charlton too.
Gonna be close to a record for both charlton and Swansea (depending of Swansea sell out their allocation). I see hospitality is sold out for swansea.
 

chiefdave

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Charlton selling very well now, and Swansea just a handful of single tickets left
Not sure there's an easy answer that doesn't involve forcing season ticket holders to move which never goes well but we seem to have ended up with a large number of single ticket all around the stadium.

Sure they must be harder to sell than if you had them grouped together.
 

Jay88

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You're kidding yourself if you think 29K actually turned up. Tickets sold, yes but nowhere near that many actually attended the game.
I think the weather put a lot of people off who had purchased tickets. Some would have stayed in pubs instead of walking over in the rain.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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Not sure there's an easy answer that doesn't involve forcing season ticket holders to move which never goes well but we seem to have ended up with a large number of single ticket all around the stadium.

Sure they must be harder to sell than if you had them grouped together.
Being one of those who often checks to see how ticket sales are going, I've noticed that we don't seem to have a system that stops people leaving odd seats empty when they select their seats.

Quite often with theatres etc you can't (for example) book the middle two seats of four remaining on a row, so leaving "singles" on either side. It seems to happen frequently in the stadium.
 

bigfatronssba

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Not sure there's an easy answer that doesn't involve forcing season ticket holders to move which never goes well but we seem to have ended up with a large number of single ticket all around the stadium.

Sure they must be harder to sell than if you had them grouped together.

Hopefully with block 9 now available it will allow people to buy tickets together that otherwise wouldn’t go it they had to sit by themselves
 

oscillatewildly

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Being one of those who often checks to see how ticket sales are going, I've noticed that we don't seem to have a system that stops people leaving odd seats empty when they select their seats.

Quite often with theatres etc you can't (for example) book the middle two seats of four remaining on a row, so leaving "singles" on either side. It seems to happen frequently in the stadium.
Me and my boy have ST seats 17&18 Block 10 South stand.
A couple of times this season people have purchased match day seats 16&19 either side of our seats and asked if one of us could move up one so they could sit together. Absolutely no problem with doing that but on Saturday some old boy had his match day ticket on his phone which was exactly one of our seats!
Does this mean the TO don't have block 9 (which is where he moved to) for sale on their system so will duplicate an already sold seat safe in the knowledge there will be plenty to move to?
 

Travs

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I haven't read the entire thread, seems like another tedious argument.

Crowds are fantastic considering where we were such a short time ago.

But lets not try to justify £45 for a ticket whatever the circumstances...... if it was another club we'd (rightly) be up in arms about it.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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I haven't read the entire thread, seems like another tedious argument.

Crowds are fantastic considering where we were such a short time ago.

But lets not try to justify £45 for a ticket whatever the circumstances...... if it was another club we'd (rightly) be up in arms about it.
That’s the problem with football fans, they’d be up in arms about prices raising. £30 for a ticket in the championship was normal 15-20 years ago which is around £50-55 in today’s money when adjusted for inflation. In the meantime, transfer fees and wages have gone up with inflation as well as the boring day-to-day operations of a football club.

Your football tickets and ST is one of the only things you’ll buy today that was more or less the same price as it was 15-20 years ago.

It’s a case of ‘cakeism’, we’re more than happy to let an owner pay £45-60m in transfer fees but god forbid they charge £40 for a ticket.
 

SBT

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It’s a case of ‘cakeism’, we’re more than happy to let an owner pay £45-60m in transfer fees but god forbid they charge £40 for a ticket.
There is no feasible ticket price that could properly sustain that kind of transfer activity. It’s not the fans’ fault that the economics of English football don’t make sense, and frankly we should stop pretending that fans at this level are responsible for funding the club.
 

David O'Day

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There is no feasible ticket price that could properly sustain that kind of transfer activity. It’s not the fans’ fault that the economics of English football don’t make sense, and frankly we should stop pretending that fans at this level are responsible for funding the club.
2nd worst argument ever on this forum.

The fans are responsible for funding the clubs, it's a business and a business that makes a loss so that is why they are looking at how high the can push the ticket prices.

But to think fans are responsible for funding the club at this level is frankly baffling.
 

chiefdave

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Your football tickets and ST is one of the only things you’ll buy today that was more or less the same price as it was 15-20 years ago.
Was reading an article in an industry mag recently about ticket prices for live entertainment and how, post-covid, they have risen at multiple times the rate of inflation. In some cases up to ten times the price immediately prior to covid.

There's an expectation that football tickets are an exception and should be immune to this. Seems to be based around the idea its a working class sport but I'm not sure that really applies anymore.

Even with PL level TV money coming in club owners will be looking to maximise revenues, I can see it getting far far worse. I can easily see for 'big' clubs ticket prices in the hundreds being the norm. As long as there's enough day trippers and tourists that will be the direction we go in. Already seeing those clubs trying to find ways to take season tickets off people so they can be sold as individual matchday tickets.

Fear that people are pissing in the wind with this. Swansea is A+ and that's virtually sold out. How can we turn round to King and say his pricing is wrong when its sold out?
 

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