Brighton Sky Blue
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As above I was trying to understand your point of view, maybe you had experienced some yourself.
Immigration and Asylum (12 Viewers)
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Good news if you’re a white person who’s upset about asylum seekers and feels like you’re not allowed to talk about it - the United States might now accept you as a refugee
Trump Considers Overhaul of Refugee Program That Would Favor White People
Trump Considers Overhaul of Refugee Program That Would Favor White People
Serious question Pete. Who can be happy having to move from your home to a country you know nothing about and having to live in a migrant hotel with strangers.
The only way to solve the illegal migration issue is for the countries these people are coming from to sort themselves out. There should be help from the western world for them to do this. Ultimately the goal of everyone to have pace and prosperity in the world.
Otis
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The first thing they should move is the sun. Maybe push it back a bit.
Hey?
Otis
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With climate change (which IS a thing), more and more people are going to try to migrate from these scorching hot countries to the slightly cooler countries in the West
Definitely going to happen.
Where were you born? Where were your parents born? And where did you work and study? Unless the answers to those questions are all the same, then you have your answer.
I agree with you btw that foreign aid should be a key part of any country’s immigration policy. But we apparently want to cut that as well.
Australia seems to be doing ok, so was South Africa.
rob9872
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We don't have a lot of migration from other hot countries that have wealth eg Dubai, Oman, Saudi etc. I'm not sure heat is the reason they're moving and although I can't agree with Doug saying why are they moving to 'white countries' if I were one of the immigrants I would welcome a move to a country where I was more culturally aligned, so the 'why here' question is about more than weather.
Sky Blue Pete
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Sick Boy
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Good to see you’re in favour of the ex-colonial powers paying reparations then. Next you’ll be eating yoghurts and taking up knitting comrade.
Reparations?? They should be thanking us for being here. People are free to go back if they feel so strongly about it.
How far do we go back? Do we ask the French for what the Norman’s did, or do we ask the Italians for what the Roman’s did?
I’m
I want to play for Coventry City, but I can’t it’s just life. No one is stopping anyone from moving legally. Just have to get yourself an education and make something of yourself rather than robbing your way through Europe, jumping on a boat and then causing crime in the country you expect to pay for you.
rob9872
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What did the Romans ever do for us?
Probably more air con in the wealthy hot countries eg UAE/Saudi than Syria/Sudan etc to be fair!
Sick Boy
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Where are British born citizens supposed to go back to?
A lot of these people will have ancestors who fought in the British army during WW1 and WW2.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Well if we hadn't stolen all their resources and made their homelands uninhabitable maybe they'd not want to come here.
A big part of the migration to the western world is due to the greed of the western world. We take everything for our own prosperity then act surprised when those people we took it from want to be part of that prosperity.
If those areas did 'try to sort themselves out' (which I'm sure many people there are trying to do) you can guarantee the West would be the first people trying to stop them by forcing them to give up those resources, or at the very least sell them to us for a fraction of what they're worth.
Otis
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Talking about the future, Rob.
If the planet keeps heating up and the predictions are that it will, it will be almost impossible to live in some countries
rob9872
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In that case I agree, but it was in response to his why are they settling here and currently I don't believe it's weather related.
Otis
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Yeah, two separate points
I was just picking up on the people coming here now remark and was just saying it's going to get worse
Except the law, I guess.
chiefdave
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We've been over this. Most immigrants do go to 'more culturally aligned' countries. We're being fed a narrative that 'everyone wants to come here' that simply isn't true. As a country we're not even anywhere close to the top of the list of European countries for taking migrants let alone worldwide.
rob9872
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Well as that isn't what I've said, so I don't think your condescending 'We've been over this' is all that helpful.
I've not mentioned numbers of how many or even versus other European countries, although again, questionably are other European countries any more culturally aligned or in terms of religion, heritage, language, beliefs?
Everybody is different and if they feel unsafe where they are or lack of opportunity, then that's a choice they are making. It was simply a question of why here? To get here they often have to travel through many of those other places, so what opportunities do they see in coming to the UK over say France, Germany, Spain etc? Nothing to do with any narrative or numbers, so perhaps save your one trick answer for a more relevant post.