What moment still haunts you? (8 Viewers)

[skybluelee]

with the Torp goal, I said as Haji took the pass that he looked offside and I couldn't let myself go batsh*t knowing VAR would look. Means it didn't have that same magic for me, which is sh*t tbf!

That is shit. You missed out on the best 90 seconds any football fan has ever experienced.

 

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[Warwickhunt]

Torps Wembley FA cup semi final winner disallowed by VAR and hearing that the audio of the decision was lost!

 

[Pusb1]

I feel by supporting England
Numerous finals and semi losses in recent years including penalties

And Cov

Relegations to league 2
Homelessness x2
Really playing shit in League 2 and scraping up in the playoffs
League 1 season curtailed meaning we never got the end of season celebrations
Dabo Vs Luton
Torp Vs Man Utd
Sunderland playoff loss

We've had our absolute fair deal of shite. It's the 'being so close' that hurts most for me. The years of mediorcrity prior to that never had me so upset. Torp vs Man Utd was the biggest 'what could have been' moment and haunts me to this date.

It does mean when we finally have thaf moment, whenever that is. It will be monumentous.

 

[SkyBlueSoul]

If it's any consolation, you and I were both correct in thinking Haji was offside. He was, but far more narrowly than I thought in real time. I actually anticipated the goal being overturned straight away, so I kind of missed out on the euphoria and maybe that helps me live with it.

with the Torp goal, I said as Haji took the pass that he looked offside and I couldn't let myself go batsh*t knowing VAR would look. Means it didn't have that same magic for me, which is sh*t tbf!

Same here. I thought it was offside as O'Hare played it and knew the flag wouldn't go up straight away like "normal" in league games. So I celebrated but there was doubt in the back of my mind and I wasn't surprised to see it getting checked. Obviously didn't realise how close it was until after the game.

 

[Robinshio]

as regards the offside, the law is the point O Hare 1st made contact, when he released the ball at the end of the scoop, Haji was probably onside, so was played the ball in an onside position
The letter of the law and 1st contact , meant it was offside
If a player could balance a ball on his foot for 20 yards, and then roll it to a goal hanging forward, that would then be onside

 

[SkyBlueSoul]

In terms of a moment that DOES haunt me, that Ballard goal went straight through me like no other. I couldn't even react, no throwing my arms up, dropping to my knees, shouting. Just a thousand yard stare to the sound of 45,000 Sunderland fans going mental and a hole opening up in the pit of my stomach.

 

[bigfatronssba]

My soul genuinely left my body after the Torp goal. I remember muttering "he's offside" as Wright got the ball, more out of force of habit rather than having a particularly good view, then Wright just trotted towards the box without anyone trying to stop him and I saw Torp casually ambling into the area again without anyone trying to stop him, then it was like the world went into slow motion as Wright put the slowest and most easily intercepted pass across the box and my mind was like "oh come on, someone's going to leather that". Then Torp got his toe into it and it's like the ball rolled into the net as slowly as a tortoise makes its way to a lettuce. Then it was like I *actually heard the sound of the ball hitting the net* and nothing else, and slowly stood up as if I knew that was what I was supposed to do but I couldn't comprehend what had actually happened. It wasn't until I felt the hands of the two guys behind me wrapping around my shoulders and physically yanking me over the back of my seat that everything suddenly snapped back into focus and oh my FUCK OH MY GOD HOLY SHIT JESUS CHRIST AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Then I saw the VAR CHECKING on the screen, and knew where it was going.

I will never, ever feel like I felt about that goal again.

Very good description of it.

It was certainly surreal. I felt like I was in silence somehow. Normally when a goal goes in the cheering is one of the first things you notice, but for that goal my brain didn't process the sound

I'm sure I had some form of PTSD after that game

 

[chiefdave]

It was also so subjective when Ohare flicked it up...was on his boot for a millisecond longer...they took it as the moment ohares touched the ball not when released. I maintain that anyway!

I've mentioned this many times before but the basic maths does not allow for using VAR for such close calls.

When you allow for the speed of the ball, speed the defender is moving at, speed the forward is moving at, framerates and the camera angle the margin of error is huge.

 

[rob9872]

I could pretty much echo all of the above (especially @clint van damme 's of course!), but the one thing that still strikes me today about disallowing Torp's goal is just how much of a money game it is now and why I'm falling out of love with football outside of watching City. There was a time I used to enjoy EPL football even after we left it or international football, not any longer. I won't be convinced that it wasn't about money and somehow the powers that be wanting an all Manchester final.

Anyone who thinks Torp's goal shouldn't have stood, imo, doesn't really like football at all. Not only was it Roy of the Rovers stuff, but it's those magical comebacks, and even more so when when it's David v Goliath, that is the reason we all fell in love with the game in the first place.

Fook VAR, fook ManUre, fook Antony, fook Sky, fook the FA and fook modern football pricing and fooking armchair fooking fans.

 

[play_in_skyblue_stripes]

Torp's disallowed Wembley winner
I still maintain to this day, that when V.A.R drew the lines across the pitch, it went half way up the United players boot, and not on his toes.
Has it of been on his toes, It would of been just onside.

An independent referee told me about his analysis at the time , six weeks after semi, that Man United boot was painted out and the angle of photo of pitch was adjusted proven by advertising boards being at a different angle to make the two lines make it appear marginally offside.

His analysis was not connected to me or Coventry City, just his findings.

We won that game.

Heartbraking moments
#1 Sheffield United equaliser in FA Cup QF in 98
#2 Finding out we had lost our 2 goal lead at Villa and relegation
#3 FA cup disallowed goal in 2024 after being 3 - 0 down to win 4-3. Made massively worse with being with my daughter in her second ever game(she doesn't like football and went because of how much it meant to me).

Luton penalties play off and 1981 League cup were hugely disappointing too but some case that in those games we didn't fully deserve to progress.

I think relegation has been worst moment. I know we beat Man Utd so take pride in that and will never forget our daughters face when we scored our winner.

 

[Moff]

Torps disallowed goal, and the euphoria to despair is something I wont forget.
Hamer going off in the playoffs, when we were in control and looking good.
Not being able to defend a last minute corner in the FA cup quarter final against Sheff Utd when Strachan was boss, and we had a team that could have got us to the final.
And for all those old enough to remember, and god it was a shit night, at a shite ground, losing on penalties in 1988 in the Simod Cup semi final against Reading at Elm Park when we were on for another Wembley trip the year after our FA cup win.

Oh and ever playing Sutton in the FA Cup.

 

[Balli001]

Var in man utd semis

It's just hard to remember that game fondly even though we all deserve too

We all know we won that game. However not being humped by Man City in the final means we ended the run on a high in reality. We played one of the most successful sides in British football, fought back from 3-0 down with 20 minutes left and beat them at Wembley while outsinging them the whole game. We may not have played in the final but we did reach it and we can always have that moment to remember.

 

[play_in_skyblue_stripes]

Torp's disallowed Wembley winner
I still maintain to this day, that when V.A.R drew the lines across the pitch, it went half way up the United players boot, and not on his toes.
Has it of been on his toes, It would of been

Torps disallowed goal, and the euphoria to despair is something I wont forget.
Hamer going off in the playoffs, when we were in control and looking good.
Not being able to defend a last minute corner in the FA cup quarter final against Sheff Utd when Strachan was boss, and we had a team that could have got us to the final.
And for all those old enough to remember, and god it was a shit night, at a shite ground, losing on penalties in 1988 in the Simod Cup semi final against Reading at Elm Park when we were on for another Wembley trip the year after our FA cup win.

Oh and ever playing Sutton in the FA Cup.

Yes at all of those games!

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I left the second i saw Dabo walking towards the spot. Just knew he was missing. Me and the kids walking into the concourse at Wembley, hearing the Luton cheer and just saying 'knew it'


The Torp disallowed goal wins it by a long way. It was never offside and il go to my grave saying that. We were robbed of the greatest ever comeback in football history. Myself, the kids, my cousin all together, all crying our eyes out in disbelief shock and pride at what we had just seen. Hugging randomers also in floods of tears, the pure unrivalled joy. I still cannot and dont think I ever will be able to put into words that feeling of that monent. Nothing has ever come close. If you can bottle that and sell it you would be the richest man in the world

What a fucking moment man

Totally agree with all of this. The atmosphere just dropped around me when Dabo walked forward. Maybe it was you heading for the exit!

At least we still had the Torp moment to celebrate before it was taken away though. I was stood next to three women and they were all over me for around 30 seconds. No complaints there! Several people from about 10 rows away ended up in the madness as well, and I can't even describe those moments with much clarity as it was just so much overwhelming emotion.

I think it was also the fact the game seemed so lost. At 3-0 I was just in the bar having more or less given up, and when we scored to make it 3-1, said to my mate, 'guess we better go and watch then'...

 

[fatso]

An independent referee told me about his analysis at the time , six weeks after semi, that Man United boot was painted out and the angle of photo of pitch was adjusted proven by advertising boards being at a different angle to make the two lines make it appear marginally offside.

His analysis was not connected to me or Coventry City, just his findings.

We won that game.

Heartbraking moments
#1 Sheffield United equaliser in FA Cup QF in 98
#2 Finding out we had lost our 2 goal lead at Villa and relegation
#3 FA cup disallowed goal in 2024 after being 3 - 0 down to win 4-3. Made massively worse with being with my daughter in her second ever game(she doesn't like football and went because of how much it meant to me).

Luton penalties play off and 1981 League cup were hugely disappointing too but some case that in those games we didn't fully deserve to progress.

I think relegation has been worst moment. I know we beat Man Utd so take pride in that and will never forget our daughters face when we scored our winner.

Reading that has just made me even more pissed off

 

[Mercian In Anglia]

Equalising in the last minute at Portman Road, and them then scoring straight from the KO. 3-2 defeat, some time in the 2000s/early 2010s?

Also Walsall away, two goals conceded in injury time (cup match)?

 

[shepardo01]

How can you say that with authority? So much uncertainty around exactly when O'hare released the ball, how accurately the line was drawn, the frame rate especially with Wright and the dfender running in opposite directions. A millisecond either way and the picture looks so different. Enough uncertainty to give in favour of the attacking team, and that's a hill I'm prepared to die on.

Said this before - there are 100% frames available where Wright is onside.
We've seen it before with VAR where they fixate on a certain thing/angle/frame and miss others that are available that show a different picture.

Not only was the tech used not fit for purpose for those decisions - as stated by the ex PGMOL boss after the game.... We have since seen absolute cluster-f**k the VAR room can be leading to incorrect calls.

Even if we get promoted, this will forever be the biggest "haunt" for me....

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

This is going to sound really random, but there's no accounting for the moments that stick in your mind.

Stan Bowles scoring a very late winner against us in the FA Cup for QPR in 1974. Was at a party listening on the radio and we all had a drunken breakdown. Time has healed things a bit .

I was also listening to that game. We lead twice and Bowles scored their winner in the last minute.

 

[ovduk78]

In 91/92 season we played away at Notts County with about 6 games of the season to go. We were doing OK and Paul Furlong missed an absolute sitter & we ended up losing 1-0 to an unlucky deflection off Kenny Sansom. Lost 4 of last 5 including last game at Villa Park & only stayed up thanks to Notts County beating Luton & taking them down as well. I still can't believe Furlong missed.

 

[Tommo1993]

What if Henderson hadn’t been shot at Peterborough. We might have got a result.

 

[robbiethemole]

I could pretty much echo all of the above (especially @clint van damme 's of course!), but the one thing that still strikes me today about disallowing Torp's goal is just how much of a money game it is now and why I'm falling out of love with football outside of watching City. There was a time I used to enjoy EPL football even after we left it or international football, not any longer. I won't be convinced that it wasn't about money and somehow the powers that be wanting an all Manchester final.

Anyone who thinks Torp's goal shouldn't have stood, imo, doesn't really like football at all. Not only was it Roy of the Rovers stuff, but it's those magical comebacks, and even more so when when it's David v Goliath, that is the reason we all fell in love with the game in the first place.

Fook VAR, fook ManUre, fook Antony, fook Sky, fook the FA and fook modern football pricing and fooking armchair fooking fans.

So, just to be clear, how many fooks do you give???

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Totally agree with all of this. The atmosphere just dropped around me when Dabo walked forward. Maybe it was you heading for the exit!

At least we still had the Torp moment to celebrate before it was taken away though. I was stood next to three women and they were all over me for around 30 seconds. No complaints there! Several people from about 10 rows away ended up in the madness as well, and I can't even describe those moments with much clarity as it was just so much overwhelming emotion.

I think it was also the fact the game seemed so lost. At 3-0 I was just in the bar having more or less given up, and when we scored to make it 3-1, said to my mate, 'guess we better go and watch then'...

Went to the game hoping we wouldn't disgrace ourselves, then at 0-3 just hoped it'd stop there. As we got it back to 2-3 though, you could see their players on the ropes and that bald idiot of a Dutchman on the bench started shitting the bed.

The Torp goal was the best moment of my CCFC life though, and I maintain that Casemiro was trying to get his manager sacked with his penalty effort. Harry Maguire went up in my estimation at the end, he knew his team got lucky as fuck. Same can't be said for some of his ratty teammates and especially his manager.

 

[Calista]

Said this before - there are 100% frames available where Wright is onside.

I'm sure, but sadly not at the moment O'Hare makes first contact with his pass, nor indeed as it leaves his boot. Just for that split second (the only moment that counts) Haji's stuck-out foot was offside. I wish the timing had been different, because he was definitely onside just before and just after.

I'll leave it there because the pics from the opposite side of the pitch I've previously posted are very clear, but people don't want to know. And some have convinced themselves that multiple people in the VAR room colluded to corrupt the result .

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

SISU tearing the heart out of our club.

 

[speedie87]

Losing to Grimsby in in strachan’s last game, the goal a howler from Hedman……football has never mattered to me as much since that day. Was like the end offical End of us being a premier league team to me

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Even though it was disallowed the Panzo fuck up at Wembley I remember that feeling of just my stomach dropping

 

[ptr]

I left the second i saw Dabo walking towards the spot. Just knew he was missing. Me and the kids walking into the concourse at Wembley, hearing the Luton cheer and just saying 'knew it'

that’s mental

 

[covmark]

that’s mental

You can probably add that to the things that never happened thread.

 

[andy86]

The Torp injustice at Wembley. Will never get over it, or accept the decision.

Felt really flat after the Crewe 3-0 home semi final defeat, thinking we would never taste glory in my lifetime.

Honourable non City mention for Gazza’s toe not being 1 cm longer at Euro 96.

 

[Offhegoes]

Losing on penalties at Sheff Utd. FA cup quarter final replay, 1997.

 

[baldy]

Losing to Grimsby in in strachan’s last game, the goal a howler from Hedman……football has never mattered to me as much since that day. Was like the end offical End of us being a premier league team to me

Surely that end officially happened at Villa Park

 

[Kneeza]

I immediately thought about George Curtis's leg.
Then I remembered Busst's.
Sickening.

 

[Major Tom]

FA cup semi final vs Sheff Utd. Moldovans missed chance.

Was stood right behind the goal

 

[duffer]

The on pitch stuff I can generally get over pretty quickly. There's always another game, or another season.

The moment that really pissed me off, and always will, was the council waving through the sale of the ground to Wasps, and the absolute arrogant stupidity of not protecting the club at the point they did it.

It was always going to be a disaster, and so it turned out. It's taken a long time to recover from that...

 

[PVA]

Sunderland's last second winner.

The Dabo/Torp moments are obviously incredibly painful, but they are also tempered with a lot of joy. They were still two incredible days with some unbelievable moments. Yes the Torp goal got taken away from us, but the feeling when it went in can never be taken off us.

However with Ballard's goal it just hit me like a fucking sledgehammer. There was no glorious moment or good day out to play against it. Just sheer utter dejection. I just sat there for about 10 minutes in disbelief. Didn't say anything, didn't move, just stared. Absolutely horrific.