Grendel
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You really are trying far too hard here Captain
Manchester synagogue attack (19 Viewers)
- Thread starter Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon
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You really are trying far too hard here Captain
Sick Boy
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There were also attacks on police during the TR march. Both sides have elements who go hoping / looking for violence.
chiefdave
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It was neither of those things. It was pre-planned with no set date. The date was if and when a specific event concerning the flotilla happened.
Sky Blue Pete
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Attacking not ok but yep we live in a society that allows people to protest and especially when women and children are starving and being bombed is a worthwhile thing to protest
Sky Blue Pete
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Me and you yep
Brighton Sky Blue
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I think it's statistically far more likely that someone from Syria isn't a criminal than is one - perhaps you don't
Sky Blue Pete
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Nuance doesn’t work with you does it
SkyBlueDom26
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Yeah protest all you want, just don’t do it on a day where innocent people have been stabbed to death in a terror attack! And also don’t attack our police
SkyBlueDom26
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Were you happy they shot and killed the terrorist? Or was that inhumane for you seeing as you have empathy for anyone and everybody regardless of who they are or what they have done you clown
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chiefdave
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tbh while I know everything has to be binary these days and 'pick a side' I don't really understand why its so hard to just accept that several things can be true at once.
Its perfectly possible to believe that Al-Shamie is a complete and utter scumbag who thoroughly deserved to be shot while also thinking genocide is wrong. They aren't opposing views, or at least they shouldn't be.
Its perfectly possible to believe that protests are a valid form of expression while also thinking attacking the police is wrong.
We don't apply the same logic to football. In fact many football supporters take great offence if they're branded a hooligan or coke-head just because some people who support the same club act that way. Why can't people apply similar perspective to other situations?
Making everything a divisive issue for point scoring needs to stop or things will never change.
Its perfectly possible to believe that Al-Shamie is a complete and utter scumbag who thoroughly deserved to be shot while also thinking genocide is wrong. They aren't opposing views, or at least they shouldn't be.
Its perfectly possible to believe that protests are a valid form of expression while also thinking attacking the police is wrong.
We don't apply the same logic to football. In fact many football supporters take great offence if they're branded a hooligan or coke-head just because some people who support the same club act that way. Why can't people apply similar perspective to other situations?
Making everything a divisive issue for point scoring needs to stop or things will never change.
Sick Boy
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The joys of your main source of news being X.
chiefdave
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I read a piece just after the last general election here. It covered people of all ages and political persuasions and how they consumed news and obtained their 'facts'. It was a perfect illustration that the algorithm, no matter what platform you use, will serve up a constant feed of things confirmed your view.
People, again from all sides, would declare things fact that had long been debunked but was still being pushed constantly to their feeds by 'citizen journalists'.
It is but the alarming part is its far better than most places people consume content. At least here you get a range of views, even if some of them are batshit crazy.
Sky Blue Pete
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It all matters Rob you know thatIf there is a god and he really is all forgiving, then it doesn't matter what the fek you do or believe in this life as he'll forgive you
And thank you for your ability to make me laugh I really value you for that
Sky Blue Pete
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Doesn’t affect me
I don’t expect people to believe what I believe if anyone wants to know what makes me tick and why I want to do the work of Jesus on earth now then they ask and I’ll willingly tell them and encourage them
I figure the rest of the time they are all trying to get through life in the best way they can much like me
Sky Blue Pete
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You know that’s complete bollox don’t youThen you have this poor bloke who tried to do everything by the book to bring his wife and child over to the UK to start a new life but was constantly denied, yet the boat people get in and month later there families are bought over. It all fucking stinks to me
How Patrick Murray ended up driving cars after 'the roles dried up'
He was once a familiar face on TV screens across the country in his role as Cockney chancer Mickey Pearce in the classic British comedy Only Fools and Horses.mol.im
Sky Blue Pete
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Like that
I personally don't believe there is a God, and that is from a lapsed altar boy. Few reasons
1. Science shows us there is so much more than just our little planet (supposedly created by a God)
2. If there was a God, would he really let all of this badness in the world occur
I try to see all people as the same, and treat all people as I would like to be treated.
There is good and bad in all races, but in my opinion from centuries gone by, a hell of a lot of the evil has been done in the name of religion, now I don't know that if there was no religion, would things be better, or would we as a civilisation just find something else to fight about
Sky Blue Pete
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Fuck off with the clown stuff you twat
Seems like it was an essential act but should be done with sober thought as I’m pretty sure it’s not easy to take another persons life even when it’s your job
Sky Blue Pete
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Fair
Brighton Sky Blue
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According to the teachings of Christ, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. As a self-proclaimed Christian, why do you want capital punishment on that basis?
Grendel
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Why won’t you answer the actual question?
Sky Blue Pete
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'We fully distance ourselves from this attack': Suspect's family releases statementpublished at 11:23
11:23BREAKING
A statement has been released by the family of Jihad Al-Shamie, the man police believe is responsible for yesterday's attack.
His father Faraj Al-Shamie posts on Facebook:
"The news from Manchester regarding the terrorist attack targeting a Jewish synagogue has been a profound shock to us. The Al-Shamie family in the UK and abroad strongly condemns this heinous act, which targeted peaceful, innocent civilians.
"We fully distance ourselves from this attack and express our deep shock and sorrow over what has happened. Our hearts and thoughts are with the victims and their families, and we pray for their strength and comfort.
"We kindly request that all media outlets respect the family’s privacy during this very difficult time and refrain from using this tragic event in any context that does not reflect the truth.
"May God have mercy on the innocent victims, and we pray for the swift recovery of the injured."
They never call it out do they?
Sky Blue Pete
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It also appears that they shot someone other than the attacker which is just awful
Two other people - one of whom sadly died and the other is in hospital (but thankfully not a life threatening injury).
SkyBlueDom26
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Fuck off you ‘I used to be a teacher’ bellend
Brighton Sky Blue
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No question was asked
SkyBlueDom26
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So you can’t even just say yeah it was a good thing they shot the terrorist dead, Christ almighty! Clown is too nice of a word to describe you
SkyBlueDom26
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Well I mean did you see what they named him? Interesting choice for a first name
Brighton Sky Blue
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But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth.
SkyBlueDom26
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It’s describing what you are, think it’s a fair comment mr I used to be a teacher and would tell everyone every day
Brighton Sky Blue
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Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how you ought to answer each person.
Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon
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It's a fairly common name and has various meanings, outside of 'holy war'. I very much doubt they gave him the name with the express intent of raising him to commit atrocities.