Jay Dasilva (5 Viewers)

alexccfc99

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His best game in a CCFC shirt by a country mile on Saturday and desperately unlucky not to get MOTM in my opinion

After Portsmouth away last season I am on the record in saying that I didn't want to see him or Collins play for us again, so full credit - Since then he has gradually kept getting better and better to the point where I am fully comfortable with him being in the team every week

An unlikely but more than welcome redemption arc.
 

Cally Fedora

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Jay Da Silva, has been good enough to push Bidwell out. And has played well since Lampards arrival.

They key to him playing well has been that we have been on front foot most of the time. Which plays to his strengths. He will struggle and yes most of our team will too when up against better teams who have us pinned back. Just like he did a little against Leicester.

Overall it's ridiculous to suggest he's not Top 6 at this level..when we clearly are.
Exactly my point. We have a defender who is fine as long as he doesn’t need to defend.
 

Cally Fedora

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Apart from the fact he won every tackle and interception on Saturday, which is defending
He’s had one decent game against the most toothless opposition your ever likely to play. I hope he carries on and becomes the second incarnation of Maldini. I’d be delighted. We’ll see
 

procdoc

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He’s had one decent game against the most toothless opposition your ever likely to play. I hope he carries on and becomes the second incarnation of Maldini. I’d be delighted. We’ll see
I’m still waiting for the examples of when they got in behind him 6 or 7 times?
 

blunted

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I am a massive fan of JDS, as he is such a good footballer. We tie teams in knots with our quick one touch, two touch passing down the wings.
Last season he struggled away against big physical sides. Cue Millwall who fit that description perfectly.
Lamps played Bidders in those games for what at the time seemed obvious reasons. Since his injury inflicted by that terrible tackle against Sheff Wed (think the perpetrator plays for Southampton), Bidders has not recovered his best form.
Will be a big test for JDS.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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I’m afraid you’ll be waiting a long time. I was at the game, I saw what I saw. I’m not going to recount individual plays just because you’ve said i should.
I was there and I saw what I saw too. I didn't see them get behind him 6 or 7 times so I want to know when they were. Trust me, I've very much been a critic of Dasilva and him being caught out by the long ball into space behind him. If it happened I would have taken note.
 

Lamps

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I’m afraid you’ll be waiting a long time. I was at the game, I saw what I saw. I’m not going to recount individual plays just because you’ve said i should.
I agree. You saw what you saw. You also saw what nobody else saw.

Just a little bit of advice. When you see things nobody else sees it's time to leave the white powder alone.
 

procdoc

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I’m afraid you’ll be waiting a long time. I was at the game, I saw what I saw. I’m not going to recount individual plays just because you’ve said i should.
So in other words you can’t provide the examples. I was also at the game and I didn’t see anyone get in behind him half a dozen times. You are so weird. You come out with statements and then can’t back it up.
Here are his stats, which you will no doubt try to debunk
DefenceTackles - 5

Blocks - 0

Clearances - 2

Headed clearance - 1

Interceptions - 1

Recoveries - 7

Dribbled past - 0
Ground Duels Won - 7/10
 
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ovduk78

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So in other words you can’t provide the examples. I was also at the game and I didn’t see anyone get in behind him half a dozen times. You are so weird. You come out with statements and then can’t back it up.
Here are his stats, which you will no doubt try to debunk
DefenceTackles - 5

Blocks - 0

Clearances - 2

Headed clearance - 1

Interceptions - 1

Recoveries - 7

Dribbled past - 0
Ground Duels Won - 7/10
I can't remember Birmingham being in our half 6 or 7 times let alone getting on behind JDS 🤔
 

Cally Fedora

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Yeah, some very selective memories off the back of a good 3-0 win. JDS had his best game for us - accepted. But have a look at how many times he’s tracking back after a very simple ball is played in behind him. Positionally he has no idea.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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‘The battle of Dasilva Hill was fought in 2025 between the forces of Cally Fedora, who died on the eponymous hill during the battle, and the forces of Common Sense.’
 

TomRad85

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‘The battle of Dasilva Hill was fought in 2025 between the forces of Cally Fedora, who died on the eponymous hill during the battle, and the forces of Common Sense.’
I think some people would rather dig in than alter their opinions on things. It's not even a case of admitting you were wrong, if you said to me Dasilva had pretty much flip flopped between mediocre and poor the last 2 seasons I'd agree, but this season he's been good, which is a good thing.
BTA also for large parts of last season looked like a headless chicken. This season he's been brilliant. Happy days if you ask me.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I think some people would rather dig in than alter their opinions on things. It's not even a case of admitting you were wrong, if you said to me Dasilva had pretty much flip flopped between mediocre and poor the last 2 seasons I'd agree, but this season he's been good, which is a good thing.
BTA also for large parts of last season looked like a headless chicken. This season he's been brilliant. Happy days if you ask me.
Dasilva improved in the second half of last season, most with eyes would agree. Just odd to die on this particular hill, it’s only 30 cm high
 

David O'Day

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as has been said Brum didn't get in behind at all "6 or 7 times" let alone in behind jds that much
 

SleepyGinger

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Been one of our best performers under Lampard, that being said I wouldn’t mind seeing Bidwell come in tomorrow against a physical side that heavily rely on set pieces. Keep Dasilva fresh for Saturday.
 

procdoc

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Yeah, some very selective memories off the back of a good 3-0 win. JDS had his best game for us - accepted. But have a look at how many times he’s tracking back after a very simple ball is played in behind him. Positionally he has no idea.
You surely understand that if he’s high up the pitch when we are on the attack that the ball will be played into the space the full back has vacated? Each time that happened he got back and recovered. You are totally out of your depth here
 

fernandopartridge

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I think Da Silva is a decent 1:1 defender, strong in the tackle with his low centre of gravity. His main vulnerability is getting caught square with a ball between the left centre back and him, we seem to have stopped that happening as much (helped by playing a decent player in Kitching over Binks) and probably Grimes to an extent.
 

TomRad85

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I think Da Silva is a decent 1:1 defender, strong in the tackle with his low centre of gravity. His main vulnerability is getting caught square with a ball between the left centre back and him, we seem to have stopped that happening as much (helped by playing a decent player in Kitching over Binks) and probably Grimes to an extent.
Kitching has been outstanding.
 

shmmeee

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Yeah, some very selective memories off the back of a good 3-0 win. JDS had his best game for us - accepted. But have a look at how many times he’s tracking back after a very simple ball is played in behind him. Positionally he has no idea.

Im sorry but you really have no idea what you’re on about.
 

Mercian In Anglia

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I think Da Silva is a decent 1:1 defender, strong in the tackle with his low centre of gravity. His main vulnerability is getting caught square with a ball between the left centre back and him, we seem to have stopped that happening as much (helped by playing a decent player in Kitching over Binks) and probably Grimes to an extent.
Think you've made a great link between Grimes coming in and Dasilva's improvement. Probably became noticeable for the last couple of months of last season, when everyone would have got used to Grimes' arrival and what it meant we would be doing different tactically with him as the fulcrum of the team?
 

shmmeee

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Love it. Cant even say he’s playing well now it must be an other player doing it. This place man.
 

Ccfc_Addy

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Love it. Cant even say he’s playing well now it must be an other player doing it. This place man.
I mean I can't quite put my finger on what exactly is happening but like I said before, Kitching seems to be a key part in the counter to teams attempting the old smack it high towards JDS tactic; he looked really switched on and quickly headed towards JDS whenever it happened.

I don't think it in any way detracts from rightly recognising the enormous improvement to JDS' game over the last several months to say that we've had to work on his most obvious weakness as part of that.
 

TomRad85

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I mean I can't quite put my finger on what exactly is happening but like I said before, Kitching seems to be a key part in the counter to teams attempting the old smack it high towards JDS tactic; he looked really switched on and quickly headed towards JDS whenever it happened.

I don't think it in any way detracts from rightly recognising the enormous improvement to JDS' game over the last several months to say that we've had to work on his most obvious weakness as part of that.
Management finding ways to cover for weaknesses in certain players games to allow them to concentrate of their strengths is normal and just another example of what a fine job Lampard and co are doing with this group of players.
 

ovduk78

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I mean I can't quite put my finger on what exactly is happening but like I said before, Kitching seems to be a key part in the counter to teams attempting the old smack it high towards JDS tactic; he looked really switched on and quickly headed towards JDS whenever it happened.

I don't think it in any way detracts from rightly recognising the enormous improvement to JDS' game over the last several months to say that we've had to work on his most obvious weakness as part of that.
It is the same as people saying that we need to replace Thomas, Kitching or even both because of the type of goals we were conceding. Now we look more solid because of slight changes in how we set up both offensively & defensively they are not getting any criticism. I thought the weak link defensively was JDS & whilst I still have some reservations that he sometimes is badly positioned & is watching the game go on around him he has massively improved this season & especially in the last few games.
 
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