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wingy

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Been cyber attacked may be out of action until November is the pessimistic view, supply chains Knock effect, sound's like it's going to be nice Xmas this year,they wouldn't would they,nice when you have to have a layoff and get the government to bail you out!
 

fatso

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Been cyber attacked may be out of action until November is the pessimistic view, supply chains Knock effect, sound's like it's going to be nice Xmas this year,they wouldn't would they,nice when you have to have a layoff and get the government to bail you out!
Devastating for jag workers and supply chain employees who are losing money through no fault of their own.
Amazing that its still having such a massive effect.
 

Potbellypig

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It won't be back up anytime soon, with some of the 'lesser' departments probably not seeing their systems and data come back up for a long while yet.

Reckon this going to be a big stick to beat the back to the office drum with though.
 

Robinshio

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I work for an IT company who specialise in cybersecurity and it took us 6 weeks to get back online
 

CCfC2023

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Royal Mail attack seemed to take ages to come back up and running and all the pc's where replaced across the whole country .

I think Jaguar may go bust .
 

Marty

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JLR should be fine, debt free, massive parent company, a host of new models in the pipeline and a brand that people are willing to throw money at to have the latest thing. It's their suppliers where the problems will lay, hopefully someone/government will step in to protect those jobs.

Who are doing the cyber attacks? I've seen rumours from a bunch of bored teenagers too foreign governments.
 

Grendel

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Jlr saying the tax payer may need to help their suppliers out.

Can their suppliers not claim off jlrs insurance?
 

oscillatewildly

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From a personal point of view I'm getting an insight into what my early retirement will look like.
Not from a financial point of view of course because we are fortunate to still be receiving base rate of hourly pay throughout this balls up.
I accepted the offer of VR back in early July - Just waiting for a date now.
 

Grendel

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Jlr saying the tax payer may need to help their suppliers out.

Can their suppliers not claim off jlrs insurance?

No there’s no chance of that
 

djr8369

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Jlr saying the tax payer may need to help their suppliers out.

Can their suppliers not claim off jlrs insurance?
It’s reported today that even JLR can’t claim from insurance as it’s wasn’t insured for cyber attacks…

It’s also looking very serious, and not just a big company that makes millions losing a few. At the moment loads of data can’t be accessed so even when up and running there nothing to say months and even years of development work could be lost. If, and it’s a big if, that’s the case and new models are delayed it’s going to get very serious very quickly.
 

wingy

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Heard a bit of a conspiracy theory off my brother this morning.
Scary stuff hope it's plain untrue, awful to speculate.
Basically move production to where wages are lower?
 

Grendel

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Grendel

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Regarding overseas manufacturing I’m looking at purchasing something now - a Chinese like for like vs European is 60% less. Generally we are hopelessly uncompetitive. It’s a saving of £70k
 

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Grendel

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Jeez, it's a no brainer then for the same thing.

It is and the dumbass government increasing NI contributions and minimum wage makes it worse
 

Grendel

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Nobody is going to pay £70k more from a small business for the same thing.

Also one has a five year warranty the other one year. Guess which has the 5 year 😂
 

Grendel

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And you'd would like UK workers to be treated the same as Chinese workers just so it could be produced here would you?

I don’t care where they are produced.
 

DT-R

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Heard a bit of a conspiracy theory off my brother this morning.
Scary stuff hope it's plain untrue, awful to speculate.
Basically move production to where wages are lower?
Already tried that with Nitra and it hasn't panned out quite how they wanted it to.

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DT-R

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Nobody is going to pay £70k more from a small business for the same thing.
It isn't the same thing, though. On the surface, it is.

I lived in dubai for 12 months a long time ago after leaving the army. In dubai is a huge supermarket called the Dragon Mart. It was basically a huge warehouse, full of individual small shops. All Chinese, all knockoffs! Anything you could think of, they'd copied it, and were selling it for half the price or less. But it was all tat. It's cheap shit that didn't last.

I've watched enough YouTube video reviews of the knock-off Defender and pick up trucks, etc, to know they're nothing alike. They might look the same, but they're miles off in terms of actual function and quality

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Grendel

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It isn't the same thing, though. On the surface, it is.

I lived in dubai for 12 months a long time ago after leaving the army. In dubai is a huge supermarket called the Dragon Mart. It was basically a huge warehouse, full of individual small shops. All Chinese, all knockoffs! Anything you could think of, they'd copied it, and were selling it for half the price or less. But it was all tat. It's cheap shit that didn't last.

I've watched enough YouTube video reviews of the knock-off Defender and pick up trucks, etc, to know they're nothing alike. They might look the same, but they're miles off in terms of actual function and quality

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It’s exactly the same.

Most parts in the uk modals are China made anyway. Companies who market as European such as Bystronic and LVD are made in china but supplied in Europe to get EU certification

Have you driven an MG Car?
 

DT-R

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It’s exactly the same.

Most parts in the uk modals are China made anyway. Companies who market as European such as Bystronic and LVD are made in china but supplied in Europe to get EU certification

Have you driven an MG Car?
But its not exactly.the same though.

Me and my mate bought a Dragon Mart iPhone each. And to say it was exactly the same? The only thing it had in common with the iPhone was the fact they both took a sim card and would make a phone call. They were shit, slow, laggy, ran awful apps that worked only when they felt like working! And fell apart after about 3 or 4 months!

Same as that new Jaecoo. It looks ok on the surface, but you put it next to a Velar and it is night and day. There's a reason its half the price. There's also a reason the chinese are making fake Range Rovers and Defenders and Jeeps. Because theyre much better than what they are making themselves!

If youre not a car person, and you drive to the shops and back and no further, and just want a mode of transport, then get a Jaecoo. At least £10k cheaper than the European equivalent. If you want a properly built, reliable, and quality drivers car, then id say dont waste your money!

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Grendel

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But its not exactly.the same though.

Me and my mate bought a Dragon Mart iPhone each. And to say it was exactly the same? The only thing it had in common with the iPhone was the fact they both took a sim card and would make a phone call. They were shit, slow, laggy, ran awful apps that worked only when they felt like working! And fell apart after about 3 or 4 months!

Same as that new Jaecoo. It looks ok on the surface, but you put it next to a Velar and it is night and day. There's a reason its half the price. There's also a reason the chinese are making fake Range Rovers and Defenders and Jeeps. Because theyre much better than what they are making themselves!

If youre not a car person, and you drive to the shops and back and no further, and just want a mode of transport, then get a Jaecoo. At least £10k cheaper than the European equivalent. If you want a properly built, reliable, and quality drivers car, then id say dont waste your money!

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Lol Land Rover has an awful quality rating - 3rd bottom last I looked in the JD Power survey
 

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