Ellis simms (14 Viewers)
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oscillatewildly
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Simms and Wright - Two of the worst signings since Tommy Langley and a leper.
Speedie's Head
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Haji 19 goals season one, 12 goals in half a season this year. 31 goals in total - are you mad?
oscillatewildly
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Far from mad - But anybody thinking Haji Wright will repeat that first season tally might be.
shmmeee
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He’s scored consistently his entire career. And he’s frustrated the fuck out of fans his entire career as well. Man’s an enigma.
Skyblue Bangkok
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He's scored 6 goals in his last 35 plus games
shmmeee
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Haji Wright?
chiefdave
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When Lampard came in he was asked about Simms and gave some vague everyone will get their change answer but he really doesn't seem to like Simms.
Got to be hard to get any run of form going when you're only playing 15 - 20 minutes and the occasional start before being hauled off after an hour.
Think the only time he's had a run of games under Lampard he's got 4 in 12 or something like that. Wasn't it similar last year when he got a run of games?
Shame for him but if Lampard isn't go to play him for his own sake he needs to look elsewhere. Will just be a question of how much we can get for him.
Got to be hard to get any run of form going when you're only playing 15 - 20 minutes and the occasional start before being hauled off after an hour.
Think the only time he's had a run of games under Lampard he's got 4 in 12 or something like that. Wasn't it similar last year when he got a run of games?
Shame for him but if Lampard isn't go to play him for his own sake he needs to look elsewhere. Will just be a question of how much we can get for him.
Oggysstarjumps
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Agreed. I think 0 minutes in two playoff games says everything you need to know about what Lampard thinks of him.
Grendel
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He has started 8 of the last 13 league games - he has not scored for 14 games
Captain Dart
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I wanted him to come good but it looks less and less likely.
I wonder if he is a bit homesick and would benefit with a move back to the Manchester area.
SHUNT31
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I do wonder if something has happened behind the scenes, as he was getting some game time.
But he can have no complaints about getting no minutes, he’s been dreadful all season and is so ineffective.
I just think we’d have got no more out of him than we got out of Wright last night. We have seen that type of performance from Simms on numerous occasions.
But he can have no complaints about getting no minutes, he’s been dreadful all season and is so ineffective.
I just think we’d have got no more out of him than we got out of Wright last night. We have seen that type of performance from Simms on numerous occasions.
Wasn’t simms playing through an injury recently ? Either way not quite worked for either of them this season. Might get decent money for Wright and would imagine he won’t fancy another year in the championship so probably best to part ways. Simms is a real conundrum. I still think there’s a player there but just not sure our set up will get the best out of him
oscillatewildly
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Bit harsh on reflection.
Adge
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It’s football but I felt a bit sorry for Simms regarding the 2 playoff games. Was it a bit disrespectful for Lampard to not even throw him on for 10 minutes? Same could be said for Bidwell, Patterson and others on the bench though.
Evo1883
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Yes I think wright's done generally well for the club , but fell into poor form at the wrong time .
I think if the right offer comes though we will look to move both on and re invest
Captain Dart
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Not really, they were playing well before conceding. Could have had a negative effect on the performance.
Skyblueabo1111
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If Frank had put Simms and Assante in for the full extra time period, we would have won that
Brighton Sky Blue
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I assume he just had more faith in the 11 out on the pitch while wanting Wright for penalties. He should have been hooked well before extra time anyway
shepardo01
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How involved was Lampard at Everton in sending Simms out on loan, then agreeing that he could be sold?
Who was in charge at that time? (Genuine question as I can't be bothered to look it up)
Who was in charge at that time? (Genuine question as I can't be bothered to look it up)
PUSB-We_are_going_up
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Think it was Dyche who let him be sold
ovduk78
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Michael Rose
fatso
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Michael Rose has been released by Stoke, thats twice Robins has released him.
He's still only 29, I'd say he's a better CH than Lats and Binks.
Would still be a decent squad player on a free!
He was one of our quickest players at the time, surprisingly. Something we are lacking in defence (Van Erwijk the exception). Unfortunately, he seems to struggle keeping injury free.
Ccfcisparks
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He would not
Skyblueabo1111
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Were they?
Balli001
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And also being any good
Evo1883
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His future here is looking incredible fragile .
Haji today for me atleast showed that in a frank lampard system you need to have the lot which includes being good in the air , good at holding the ball up and good bringing others into play and can score goals .. he can also run at defences .
Haji had it all today
The ball simply doesn't stick to ellis and I think his limited passing ability Along with his inability to really bring others in would suggest he isnt fancied at all and might never really be under frank
He needs to play in a side that will put the ball in the box to his feet consistently
Does ellis want to be on the bench week in week out ? I dont think so at all .
Haji today for me atleast showed that in a frank lampard system you need to have the lot which includes being good in the air , good at holding the ball up and good bringing others into play and can score goals .. he can also run at defences .
Haji had it all today
The ball simply doesn't stick to ellis and I think his limited passing ability Along with his inability to really bring others in would suggest he isnt fancied at all and might never really be under frank
He needs to play in a side that will put the ball in the box to his feet consistently
Does ellis want to be on the bench week in week out ? I dont think so at all .
Flying Fokker
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Loan out to another club?
Evo1883
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Possibly but I think we need another forward in first
Thought he made some good runs off the ball when he came on, and his raw physicality does give teams something to think about. He still should have done better even today when he came on, but if Ellis Simms is our first option off the bench then we are in a very good situation in terms of strikers.
clint van damme
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He did one of his special where he nearly split our defence with his 1st touch, I've genuinely never seen anything like it.
I don't know what's happened to him and wish him all the best but I think his City career is drawing to a close
Perennial Lurker
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Why do we look to offload players ? It's a squad game and a lot of clubs would like a player like Simms on the subs bench