Transfer Rumour 25/26 Summer Transfer Window (44 Viewers)

Skyblueweeman

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We need another CB minimum - it’s not even a debate and as Simms and Bassette seem frozen out another forward. It’s absurd to suggest another CB isn’t needed

He didn't suggest that though. Stop spinning stuff to suit your stance.

It's obvious we need another CB...at least.
 

Hobo

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Fortunately the manager agrees with me

Fans say get someone in before you sell. But what happens when interest in buying drifts away?

The season has barely started and the transfer window hasn't closed.

This "Fortunately the manager agrees with me " is delusional, as we all know you don't speak to Frank Lampard or live in his head 😂
 

Grendel

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He didn't suggest that though. Stop spinning stuff to suit your stance.

It's obvious we need another CB...at least.

What stance? It’s hardly controversial
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Silva has said Godo will likely be allowed to go but feels Fulham are light on the wings. The noises from Ipswich suggest Woolfenden has basically asked to leave to play more. I do think both those get done at the very least. The fact their managers are speaking about them suggests things are moving.
I believe both players will leave.

I don't necessarily believe they'll end up here though.
 

Skybluedownunder

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I don't know what you're going on about honestly. It hasn't happened so it's completely irrelevant.

It’s not irrelevant because that’s exactly the case with Woolfenden which is the point you are arguing.

Going up as a promoted team and playing a few games in the prem doesn’t make you a prem player. It means you were one cog in the wheel of the whole team that went up but when you come back down it doesn’t mean you are suddenly so much more valuable than other players in the league cause you went up just for one season and when you did you only played 13 games


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TomRad85

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It’s not irrelevant because that’s exactly the case with Woolfenden which is the point you are arguing.

Going up as a promoted team and playing a few games in the prem doesn’t make you a prem player. It means you were one cog in the wheel of the whole team that went up but when you come back down it doesn’t mean you are suddenly so much more valuable than other players in the league cause you went up just for one season and when you did you only played 13 games


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It really doesn't, you're essentially asking if Dasilva was a better player would he be worth more, which is ridiculous.
Woolfenden has played regularly for a team that accumulated 96 points in this division and is well liked by the fanbase. I'm not sure why you've decided he's shit and some sort of equivalent to Latibeaudiere or Dasilva to be quite honest. Is it because he's got a shit name? I genuinely think that does him no favours with people on here and I'm not even joking.
 

BlueSkiesForever

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Woolfenden has played regularly for a team that accumulated 96 points in this division and is well liked by the fanbase. I'm not sure why you've decided he's shit and some sort of equivalent to Latibeaudiere or Dasilva to be quite honest. Is it because he's got a shit name? I genuinely think that does him no favours with people on here and I'm not even joking.

I’m not hating on Woolfenden here, just playing devils advocate tbh, but was he actually instrumental to Ipswich that season or was it just that he was best of the rest for them? Didn’t really notice him that much when he was last in the championship tbh, but obvs doesn’t mean he’s shit. Anyone know what the best site for stats is btw?
 

long way home

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Another signing for blues
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Pointless who has what, the only thing we can do is play every game to get 3pts with the players we have. Being a Cov fan its nothing new, we don't compete with clubs in financial terms. We just try to score more goals than them and generally have understood its the way it is .
 

Skybluedownunder

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It really doesn't, you're essentially asking if Dasilva was a better player would he be worth more, which is ridiculous.
Woolfenden has played regularly for a team that accumulated 96 points in this division and is well liked by the fanbase. I'm not sure why you've decided he's shit and some sort of equivalent to Latibeaudiere or Dasilva to be quite honest. Is it because he's got a shit name? I genuinely think that does him no favours with people on here and I'm not even joking.

No that’s not what I’m saying.
I’m saying you could be any player who plays in a team that goes up, comes back down, it doesn’t make you a premier league player and worth more just cause you played a few games in the prem and your team got promoted.

It is a team sport. Some players carry others. The season we got to playoff final Ben Wilson won golden glove and had something like 22 clean sheets, was there loads of stand out games where he was pulling off blinders? No there wasn’t, in some of them games he hardly had anything to do cause the defence in front of him was doing well. If we went up and came back down you don’t then think oh Ben Wilson is a premier league keeper, look at how many clean sheets they had when they went up…. He’s still a very average player who played in a team that did well but then perhaps wasn’t good enough to make the step up so only played a hand full of games and that could be for whatever reason, could be they had players out injured, could be that some needed a rest or whatever and THAT is the point I am making

I don’t want us going and spunking that much money if he’s not considerably better than what we already have as we are no further forward. If the right player isn’t available right now then just get a loan for now to plug the gap as a bench filler and we will look again in January.

As mentioned, I think David O’Day said Alfie Gilchrist isn’t that good but I’d start there if we only need someone to fill the bench but can cover a few positions. Do Burnley still have an abundance of centre backs?

Is Woolfenden considerably better than Thomas for that price range is what I’m saying or are we better off waiting and just getting a loan in for now

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David O'Day

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No that’s not what I’m saying.
I’m saying you could be any player who plays in a team that goes up, comes back down, it doesn’t make you a premier league player and worth more just cause you played a few games in the prem and your team got promoted.

It is a team sport. Some players carry others. The season we got to playoff final Ben Wilson won golden glove and had something like 22 clean sheets, was there loads of stand out games where he was pulling off blinders? No there wasn’t, in some of them games he hardly had anything to do cause the defence in front of him was doing well. If we went up and came back down you don’t then think oh Ben Wilson is a premier league keeper, look at how many clean sheets they had when they went up…. He’s still a very average player who played in a team that did well but then perhaps wasn’t good enough to make the step up so only played a hand full of games and that could be for whatever reason, could be they had players out injured, could be that some needed a rest or whatever and THAT is the point I am making

I don’t want us going and spunking that much money if he’s not considerably better than what we already have as we are no further forward. If the right player isn’t available right now then just get a loan for now to plug the gap as a bench filler and we will look again in January.

As mentioned, I think David O’Day said Alfie Gilchrist isn’t that good but I’d start there if we only need someone to fill the bench but can cover a few positions. Do Burnley still have an abundance of centre backs?

Is Woolfenden considerably better than Thomas for that price range is what I’m saying or are we better off waiting and just getting a loan in for now

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I said Gilchrist lost his place in defence to a midfielder

Woolfenden is a very good CB who has played 40 games in a Championship winning team and then 15 games in the PL. We need someone who can challenge the CBs not a bench warmer.
 

Grendel

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shmmeee

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I think the financial risk involved in trying to assemble a team that can challenge for autos is too great. The expenditure needed to get our squad there would be significant and then if you miss out, yes you're in the playoffs, but they are very unpredictable.

I think aiming for 3rd - 6th is the only viable option for the money we can spend without risking our future. You just have to use a good model to build, sell at the right time/ price and reinvest. It took Brentford 10 years of trying before they finally got promoted. But then they weren't a flash in the pan, they had the foundations to keep building.

I don’t think aiming for 3-6 is a thing. You aim 3-4 or 5-10 and we’re 5-10 at the moment and those teams almost never get promoted.
 

Jamesimus

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I don’t think aiming for 3-6 is a thing. You aim 3-4 or 5-10 and we’re 5-10 at the moment and those teams almost never get promoted.

Sometimes I wonder well the hell you’re on about, particularly just before Lampard took over. This is a moment where I’m wondering more than ever!
 

BlueSkiesForever

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No that’s not what I’m saying.
I’m saying you could be any player who plays in a team that goes up, comes back down, it doesn’t make you a premier league player and worth more just cause you played a few games in the prem and your team got promoted.

It is a team sport. Some players carry others. The season we got to playoff final Ben Wilson won golden glove and had something like 22 clean sheets, was there loads of stand out games where he was pulling off blinders? No there wasn’t, in some of them games he hardly had anything to do cause the defence in front of him was doing well. If we went up and came back down you don’t then think oh Ben Wilson is a premier league keeper, look at how many clean sheets they had when they went up…

Tbf I think that’s a fair point. Just because Woolfenden was part of Ipswich’s promotion team doesn’t mean he’s a top quality player at this level. He may have been the worst player in the regular starting XI purely because they had very little else to choose from. I’m not stating that as a fact obviously, because I don’t follow Ipswich, but it’s a possibility. On the flip side, he could be a top quality player for us, I just think it’s hard to get massively excited or be massively negative about him atm.
 

Jamesimus

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Tbf I think that’s a fair point. Just because Woolfenden was part of Ipswich’s promotion team doesn’t mean he’s a top quality player at this level. He may have been the worst player in the regular starting XI purely because they had very little else to choose from. I’m not stating that as a fact obviously, because I don’t follow Ipswich, but it’s a possibility. On the flip side, he could be a top quality player for us, I just think it’s hard to get massively excited or be massively negative about him atm.

So what you’re saying is, he could be shit or he could be incredible?
 

Skybluedownunder

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I said Gilchrist lost his place in defence to a midfielder

Woolfenden is a very good CB who has played 40 games in a Championship winning team and then 15 games in the PL. We need someone who can challenge the CBs not a bench warmer.

Let’s say we did get promoted, would Woolfenden be good enough to start in the prem? Is he going to get better with us? Or would we be buying more players that we are then stuck with should we go up who aren’t going to be at that level to play week in week out.

Hughes for example, is still only going to get better from here on. While he might not be Prem ready right this second he’s going to get better.

I personally just don’t want us spending anything over £4m on Woolfenden who will have a contract for no less than 3 years and if that’s what the figure is then look for a loan with where we are currently at in the transfer window


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BlueSkiesForever

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So what you’re saying is, he could be shit or he could be incredible?

Basically yeah haha, but more in relation to how I feel some people are already thinking he’s going to be amazing and some others are expecting him to be shit. Just not sure we know enough about him either way to judge him yet.
 

Lamps

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I don’t think aiming for 3-6 is a thing. You aim 3-4 or 5-10 and we’re 5-10 at the moment and those teams almost never get promoted.
5th to 10th? Do you think there's 9 clubs in a better position than ourselves?

Out of the sides that finished above us last season 3 went up and the other is Sheffield United. They've had a very poor transfer window losing very good players to be replaced by young players without Championship experience.

Out of the sides coming down only Ipswich don't have big questions to be answered. Leicester look to be in a right mess.

Birmingham and Wrexham? Still undecided about Birmingham but Wrexham are looking mid table to me.

Ourselves? We've kept every player we wanted to so far. We've gone into the season with a strong settled side. We sold 1 player that most agreed wasn't good enough. We're not relying on Collins and Wilson like we did last season. We're still trying to bring players in and have made some big offers. There's still the loan option.

I'm sticking to my prediction of 2nd to 4th. We're the only Championship side that is stronger than last season.
 

Lamps

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Let’s say we did get promoted, would Woolfenden be good enough to start in the prem? Is he going to get better with us? Or would we be buying more players that we are then stuck with should we go up who aren’t going to be at that level to play week in week out.

Hughes for example, is still only going to get better from here on. While he might not be Prem ready right this second he’s going to get better.

I personally just don’t want us spending anything over £4m on Woolfenden who will have a contract for no less than 3 years and if that’s what the figure is then look for a loan with where we are currently at in the transfer window


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Any side getting promoted would have lots of players not good enough for the Prem. Spending £100m would most probably still have us near the bottom of the Prem table.
 

Liquid Gold

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You’re supposed t on get as much of your business done early so your signings can integrate into their teammates and tactics.

We’ve got a week left and so far we’ve made 1 signing that is a starter and that is just a loan to cover an injury.

Even if we do make some decent moves it’s a poor window based on timing.

I’m also concerned that every rumour we hear is linking us with a player along with x and y championship club. It feels like our scoring unearthing a gem has given up.
 

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