Let’s be Frank. (2 Viewers)

[Ccfcisparks]

It’s difficult to address though unless you find buyers for the players who were poor signings and need moving on

The likes of Bidwell, Allen and Wilson are the ones who've been here for some time though. Theres only really Simms/BTA and Bassete who are fairly new signings that I'd want to move on

 

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[Grendel]

Even watching palmer come on. In 5 minutes he’d taken a shot from distance and played a through ball which was cut out.

People will say yeah, neither worked. But when we’re trying to unlock a defence, I want a player that’s prepared to try the 10%’ers rather than the 90%’ers.

So bored of grimes, torp, sheaf, allen getting it and knowing the only ball you’ll see is a spread to the wing.

All it showed was how embarrassing it was that people here rated him. He looked about 40 and was blowing after 5 minutes.

 

[Para1140]

Lampard is obsessed with crosses and throws into the box. He has no plan B or midfield that can break a team down running at defenders. Other teams have worked him out like Sunderland did in the second leg. We need a midfield playmaker like dare I say Ohare who can create chances for our front men instead of the slow ponderous play to get it out to the wing for then a pointless cross to one up front whos marked by two 7’ giants

anyone else miss the fast attacking play from three seasons a go that disappeared once Hamer and Ohare went ?
instead we not have a midfield of Sammy sideways Clingan and forward line who is better at wearing a fake bandage than scoring

 

[Grendel]

The likes of Bidwell, Allen and Wilson are the ones who've been here for some time though. Theres only really Simms/BTA and Bassete who are fairly new signings that I'd want to move on

Bidwell Allen and Wilson are just back up players. The other 3 have cost money and simms high wages. You can’t do much while they are still here. I assume MVE will go but we can’t keep signing forwards when the others are still hanging around.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Bidwell Allen and Wilson are just back up players. The other 3 have cost money and simms high wages. You can’t do much while they are still here. I assume MVE will go but we can’t keep signing forwards when the others are still hanging around.

BTA apparently had suitors in January, maybe he still does. Simms however I think King would need to accept a fair loss on him to move him on, which isn't necessarily the end of the world. Not sure who would make an acceptable offer even under those circumstances though

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

It’s fair but my worry is if any striker will cut it when we’re slow and predictable with our build up play.

The way we play would seem to suit a big lump of a centre forward just playing in the box. Simms should be that player, but isn't.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I don’t think our personnel leaves FL many options in terms of formation tbf. I think we’ll see a lot of games like today where we have control and possession whilst being a bit toothless.

I just wish we had a player that could take someone on in the middle of the park and go past them. Our only threat is from width, crossing in for a Rudoni late run into the box. That’s almost the only way I see us scoring.

All our midfielders are possession players. I’d love to have a risk taker.

I disagree.

Our personnel leaves many other options. For a start none of our strikers suits the centre forward role we play.

Someone else mentioned this is the same squad and tactics that got us to 5th last year. The thing that got us into contention last year was an amazing run when we weren't playing this formation and tactics. We had two up front. It's the only time bar one game that any of our strikers have looked anything better than deadweight.

So we could change our formation. We could change our tactics with the personnel we have available. Lampard is choosing not to because he's absolutely set on playing the way we are regardless.

 

[bigfatronssba]

I think I was expecting a better performance than one were looked to have all the momentum bunch of OAP's.

You’ve watched us long enough to know yesterday’s performance wasn’t that bad. It just lack a spark up front

 

[fatso]

No I’m NOT calling for his replacement already but…questions need to be asked.

The quite ridiculous sticking to a rigid tactical formation (without changing to another) that clearly wasn’t doing anything against a Hull side clearly there for the taking.

Lack of a pressing system that FL said that he himself would like to adopt. High press and attacking football I think he said-which we have only seen fleetingly.

Leaving a striker on the bench and bringing on a left back as a winger when we clearly need a goal. In fact bringing on a clearly unfit striker in a central role we all know he clearly can’t do and bringing off the one player who looked like he could create something was baffling.

Not advocating anything rash but FL has the whole of the summer to address the tactical side and thinking of alternatives if one system doesn’t work.

Same old ponderous slow build up bollocks-is it the players or the system?

Playing Hull was a perfect opportunity to be a bit more risky and try something different.

I’ve not mentioned recruitment deliberately as that out of FL’s hands. But we clearly need some pace and creativity in this team.

Positives-we didn’t look like conceding and the goalie was bloody brilliant.

Just trying to stimulate some discussion NOT calling for Franks replacement or wetting the bed!

Thoughts?


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So he's gone from a candidate for championship manager of the season, to candidate for the sack in 1 game???
A game we didn't even lose!

Ffs, even for fickle footy fans. this is bizare!

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Oh no, nothing has changed from last year.

We’re going to finish 5th again, how awful.

Some of you are pathetic at times

Yeah you're right didn't take long did it, and it's the same people every week.

 

[Fergusons_Beard]

So he's gone from a candidate for championship manager of the season, to candidate for the sack in 1 game???
A game we didn't even lose!

Ffs, even for fickle footy fans. this is bizare!

Really?

My post says nothing about sacking Frank.

Just surprised at the lack of alternative tactical option and reluctance to bring on Simms.

Surprising because he’s had the whole of the summer to come up with alternatives especially when faced with yet another team that clearly game to the CBS to defend.

More of a critique rather than criticism.


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[fernandopartridge]

Lampard is obsessed with crosses and throws into the box. He has no plan B or midfield that can break a team down running at defenders. Other teams have worked him out like Sunderland did in the second leg. We need a midfield playmaker like dare I say Ohare who can create chances for our front men instead of the slow ponderous play to get it out to the wing for then a pointless cross to one up front whos marked by two 7’ giants

anyone else miss the fast attacking play from three seasons a go that disappeared once Hamer and Ohare went ?
instead we not have a midfield of Sammy sideways Clingan and forward line who is better at wearing a fake bandage than scoring

Sunderland would have been out had Wright converted a header from a cross in the last minute. Both of our goals across the two games came from crosses.

 

[fatso]

Really?

My post says nothing about sacking Frank.

Just surprised at the lack of alternative tactical option and reluctance to bring on Simms.

Surprising because he’s had the whole of the summer to come up with alternatives especially when faced with yet another team that clearly game to the CBS to defend.

More of a critique rather than criticism.


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He's somewhat limited with the strikers he has available, ie Simms and BTA, he can't bring another striker in while we are paying £100k a week to Simms and the (unfit) Wright.
The only other option is to play 2 uptop, (Simms and BTA together) but that would mean having less possession in midfield.

Looking at the stats we had enough chances to of scored at least 1 goal, but weren't clinical enough when it mattered.

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

He's somewhat limited with the strikers he has available, ie Simms and BTA, he can't bring another striker in while we are paying £100k a week to Simms and the (unfit) Wright.
The only other option is to play 2 uptop, (Simms and BTA together) but that would mean having less possession in midfield.

Looking at the stats we had enough chances to of scored at least 1 goal, but weren't clinical enough when it mattered.

We are not paying 100 k a week to Wright and Simms.

 

[fatso]

We are not paying 100 k a week to Wright and Simms.

I meant £100k a month (each)

 

[shmmeee]

Sunderland would have been out had Wright converted a header from a cross in the last minute. Both of our goals across the two games came from crosses.

Theres a reason most of our goals come from crosses and it’s because all of our attacking play is crosses.

 

[shmmeee]

He's somewhat limited with the strikers he has available, ie Simms and BTA, he can't bring another striker in while we are paying £100k a week to Simms and the (unfit) Wright.
The only other option is to play 2 uptop, (Simms and BTA together) but that would mean having less possession in midfield.

Looking at the stats we had enough chances to of scored at least 1 goal, but weren't clinical enough when it mattered.

We had 0 big chances to Hulls 1 and only 0.87 xG. 0-0 was the right result.

 

[fatso]

We had 0 big chances to Hulls 1 and only 0.87 xG. 0-0 was the right result.

I'd say hitting the woodwork is a fairly big chance

 

[shmmeee]

I'd say hitting the woodwork is a fairly big chance

A pot shot from 20 yards is never a big chance, especially one that misses the goal.

The only big chance all game was the 1 on 1 Rushworth saved.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

We had 0 big chances to Hulls 1 and only 0.87 xG. 0-0 was the right result.

 

[shmmeee]

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OK either I’m going mad or Footmob updates their stats after the game cos I swear that’s what I read but now it says the same thing

 

[SBT]

Talk of sacking Frank is madness and I think we will be fine this season, but at the same time I think people are discounting the possibility that he won’t be the manager head coach this time next season.

 

[fatso]

The only big chance all game was the 1 on 1 Rushworth saved.

That wasn't a chance as the flag was already up.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

OK either I’m going mad or Footmob updates their stats after the game cos I swear that’s what I read but now it says the same thing

Either way, it was a decent start imo. Think Hull have been done a disservice and think that they’ll be comfortable this season.

We just didn’t click on the day up front, defensively solid and while I wish Frank would of added an additional striker, we had chances to win the game and if you look at the stats deserved too.

This talk imo is all a bit silly a lot of teams struggle to find rhythm early doors. I say this as someone who thought someone else would have been a better pick. Let’s just take it a game at a time and see where we are after ten games

 

[fatso]

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18 shots on goal should be enough to score at least 1.

Looks like we need to find our shooting boots.

 

[fernandopartridge]

OK either I’m going mad or Footmob updates their stats after the game cos I swear that’s what I read but now it says the same thing

It definitely did have us with zero immediately after the game with xG <1. I guess there is some sort of moderation process.

 

[Covcraig@bury]

I read into that you are clueless.

That’s why I joined SBT, I didn’t want to feel left out

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

It definitely did have us with zero immediately after the game with xG <1. I guess there is some sort of moderation process.

This is why I always have a look a couple of days after the fact.

 

[Bigelvesy]

I meant £100k a month (each)

We’re not paying both of them the same money, and we know haji is on 25k a week as he was the clubs top earner and Grimes joined on the same.

for fuck sake everyone, Simms didnt cost £8m and he isnt joint highest earner, he was a gamble on a prospect and both the fee and his wages represent that. He lives in a retirement village complex in earlsdon!

 

[Sick Boy]

Talk of sacking Frank is madness and I think we will be fine this season, but at the same time I think people are discounting the possibility that he won’t be the manager head coach this time next season.

I couldn’t see him leaving for another Championship club and we’d need to have a very successful season for a PL club to consider him, IMO.

 

[SBT]

I couldn’t see him leaving for another Championship club and we’d need to have a very successful season for a PL club to consider him, IMO.

To be clear, I think the most likely reason for him to leave this season is because expectations are very high and he might not meet them. As a fanbase we’re just not used to how quickly/often most teams in this division decide to change the manager.

 

[Sick Boy]

To be clear, I think the most likely reason for him to leave this season is because expectations are very high and he might not meet them. As a fanbase we’re just not used to how quickly/often most teams in this division decide to change the manager.

If expectations are that high we need to splash the cash a bit more this window then!

 

[Cally Fedora]

Lampards biggest issue is the unbalanced squad he was left. That takes time to repair - especially trying to shift players no one wants.

 

[TewkesburySkyBlue]

I don’t think our personnel leaves FL many options in terms of formation tbf. I think we’ll see a lot of games like today where we have control and possession whilst being a bit toothless.

I just wish we had a player that could take someone on in the middle of the park and go past them. Our only threat is from width, crossing in for a Rudoni late run into the box. That’s almost the only way I see us scoring.

All our midfielders are possession players. I’d love to have a risk taker.

Maybe a Hamer or O'Hare

 

[TewkesburySkyBlue]

Maybe a Hamer or O'Hare

See someone else posted the same yesterday .Sorry just great minds think alike