12 year old raped in nuneaton (21 Viewers)

[CovInEssex]

I live about a mile and a half from a hotel housing asylum seekers and there has been absolutely zero trouble at all. Don't see them out very often tbf, but they're occasionally wondering around (no idea where they're actually going as there isn't much around other than a petrol station).

Not saying there isn't trouble around other hotels, because clearly there is.

If you think it's the hampton by hilton, that doesn't house asylum seekers

edit - because that's the current rumor

edit edit - just saw you said there's nothing around except a petrol station so im assuming youre talking about a different one

 

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[Grendel]

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If you think it's the hampton by hilton, that doesn't house asylum seekers

edit - because that's the current rumor

edit edit - just saw you said there's nothing around except a petrol station so im assuming youre talking about a different one

he made it up

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

There's no need to "process" any individual who has arrived here outside of the proper channels.
Deportation is what is required.

There's no need for any person to pay up to £5000 to people traffickers to then hike right across europe, and then risk their lives to cross the busiest shipping lane in the world, to enter the UK illegally.

When they can just pay £200 for a single flight ticket to Heathrow and present themselves at immigration and claim asylum.

If they dont have a passport then apply for one, if they dont qualify for a visa, its probably because they shouldn't be here.

But its worth pointing out that illegal migration isnt the only problem as it represents less than 10% of all migrants.
The problem is that ALL migration is far too high and needs to be addressed.
The countries infrastructure and economy simply can't cope.

You still need to process an individual to deport them. It's a legal requirement and stops shit like in the US happening where you can just pick someone up who looks the wrong colour to you and shove them on a plane.

 

[PVA]

he made it up

Course I did.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

And when they go to prison for the multitude of crimes being committed…can you remind me who the fuck is paying for their incarceration ?

Who said anything about sending them to our prisons? I've said before I'd have a points system like a driving licence - get too many points and you're out. If any crime would result in jail time that's an instant ban and deportation. I'd also look at having conversations with the UN etc about ways in which if a national is sent to a foreign prison that country must pay for their incarceration.

As I said I'd consider having them held securely while being processed and even if they have some sort of temporary right to remain they should have to report regularly to border officials. Failure to do so sees your claim rejected unless a very good reason such as a medical issue stops you.

 

[Grendel]

Course I did.

Share the hotel - I mean I lives in CV5 and near the Coventry Hill Hotel - no one will know where you live if you share the hotel

 

[PVA]

Share the hotel - I mean I lives in CV5 and near the Coventry Hill Hotel - no one will know where you live if you share the hotel

Like I said, I'm not sharing anymore remotely personal information with me because you're a weirdo who constantly references my personal life.

You can either believe me or not, I really don't care. Maybe I don't believe your stories about the one near you, I doubt you care.

 

[Grendel]

Like I said, I'm not sharing anymore remotely personal information with me because you're a weirdo who constantly references my personal life.

You can either believe me or not, I really don't care. Maybe I don't believe your stories about the one near you, I doubt you care.

Cov hotel housing asylum seekers not taking bookings for paying guests

The Britannia Coventry Hill Hotel is no longer accepting bookings from customers

www.coventrytelegraph.net

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

we have enough sickos in this country already without needing more who contribute nothing to our society or country

the biggest gripe for me is the police again trying to cover up these hideous acts

someone near me got done for being a pedo, his house got smashed up and rightly so

difference now if anyone says anything about illegal immigrants being pedos we get locked up or get called racist by the left

how you bring Tate and Bonnie blue into this discussion is somewhat absurd

There’s no problem calling out criminals for criminal acts it’s saying look these people are all the same is what’s wrong
I agree with sbt above though

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

There's no need to "process" any individual who has arrived here outside of the proper channels.
Deportation is what is required.

There's no need for any person to pay up to £5000 to people traffickers to then hike right across europe, and then risk their lives to cross the busiest shipping lane in the world, to enter the UK illegally.

When they can just pay £200 for a single flight ticket to Heathrow and present themselves at immigration and claim asylum.

If they dont have a passport then apply for one, if they dont qualify for a visa, its probably because they shouldn't be here.

But its worth pointing out that illegal migration isnt the only problem as it represents less than 10% of all migrants.
The problem is that ALL migration is far too high and needs to be addressed.
The countries infrastructure and economy simply can't cope.

I think that’s right about all migration and lots is and has been being done

 

[Ashdown]

Who said anything about sending them to our prisons? I've said before I'd have a points system like a driving licence - get too many points and you're out. If any crime would result in jail time that's an instant ban and deportation. I'd also look at having conversations with the UN etc about ways in which if a national is sent to a foreign prison that country must pay for their incarceration.

As I said I'd consider having them held securely while being processed and even if they have some sort of temporary right to remain they should have to report regularly to border officials. Failure to do so sees your claim rejected unless a very good reason such as a medical issue stops you.

And when their claim is rejected they rarely get removed because some cunty human rights lawyer will invoke one of a myriad reasons why that shouldn’t happen.

 

[ccfc922]

The owner of the home they are being housed in "sickened to the stomach" until they get the next payment through.

Surprised they had the room to house them. The usual lot that pine for them the most usually say they dont have enough room in their home?

 

[shmmeee]

And when their claim is rejected they rarely get removed because some cunty human rights law will invoke one of a myriad reasons why that shouldn’t happen.

How dare they insist on the law of the land being followed.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

How dare they insist on the law of the land being followed.

Another thing this current administration are prioritising that its predecessors did nothing about. Removing foreign nationals guilty of crime

 

[oneofourown]

One of the problem governments are encountering is they are refusing to allow them back into their country(ies). 8% of UK prisons have Romanians in them but the Romanian government are saying that because they are in the UK they are our prisoners and why should they take them back. Likewise the Sudanese government say if the person does not have documents, which have been (lost) how can they prove their identity? Everyone coming across or in trucks onto our island is our issue and we cannot send them back.

 

[rob9872]

One of the problem governments are encountering is they are refusing to allow them back into their country(ies). 8% of UK prisons have Romanians in them but the Romanian government are saying that because they are in the UK they are our prisoners and why should they take them back. Likewise the Sudanese government say if the person does not have documents, which have been (lost) how can they prove their identity? Everyone coming across or in trucks onto our island is our issue and we cannot send them back.

So give thdm a dinghy and tell them to row in the opposite fekkin direction!

 

[Sbarcher]

I don't think this situation will ever change. The cycle will just continue until some very radical remedy is implemented which no doubt will have Human Rights lawyers swelling their coffers.
They are illegal immigrants, they have broken the law. Their "punishment"? Live in a hotel (often 4 & 5*), all food found and weekly pocket money. When the numbers get too high just give them residency to get them out of the way to make way for the next lot.
Once signed in then they can arrange for their close relatives to join them.

I don't know what the answer is but something is wrong when they travel through several "safe" countries to file refugee status in the UK.
I fear for the country we are leaving our grand-children.

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

I don't think this situation will ever change. The cycle will just continue until some very radical remedy is implemented which no doubt will have Human Rights lawyers swelling their coffers.
They are illegal immigrants, they have broken the law. Their "punishment"? Live in a hotel (often 4 & 5*), all food found and weekly pocket money. When the numbers get too high just give them residency to get them out of the way to make way for the next lot.
Once signed in then they can arrange for their close relatives to join them.

I don't know what the answer is but something is wrong when they travel through several "safe" countries to file refugee status in the UK.
I fear for the country we are leaving our grand-children.

Often 4-5* hotels.... that sounds and smells like utter sh!te as most of this post is. Where did you get this from?
Also do some research on what illegal immigrants are actually 'given' or 'entitled' to it's available on plenty of proper researched websites and government ones too.

 

[chiefdave]

One of the problem governments are encountering is they are refusing to allow them back into their country(ies). 8% of UK prisons have Romanians in them but the Romanian government are saying that because they are in the UK they are our prisoners and why should they take them back. Likewise the Sudanese government say if the person does not have documents, which have been (lost) how can they prove their identity? Everyone coming across or in trucks onto our island is our issue and we cannot send them back.

I know we sometimes campaign for prisoners from countries where its perceived prison conditions are poor to serve their sentence in a UK prison but does that happen as a matter of routine for Brits locked up in places like France, Spain etc?

We can't really be demanding everyone else takes people back if we're not doing the same. Begum would be the most high profile case but what happens elsewhere?

 

[Grendel]

Often 4-5* hotels.... that sounds and smells like utter sh!te as most of this post is. Where did you get this from?
Also do some research on what illegal immigrants are actually 'given' or 'entitled' to it's available on plenty of proper researched websites and government ones too.

Live near a migrant hotel Charles?

 

[chiefdave]

I don't think this situation will ever change. The cycle will just continue until some very radical remedy is implemented which no doubt will have Human Rights lawyers swelling their coffers.
They are illegal immigrants, they have broken the law. Their "punishment"? Live in a hotel (often 4 & 5*), all food found and weekly pocket money. When the numbers get too high just give them residency to get them out of the way to make way for the next lot.
Once signed in then they can arrange for their close relatives to join them.

I don't know what the answer is but something is wrong when they travel through several "safe" countries to file refugee status in the UK.
I fear for the country we are leaving our grand-children.

Just to point out if meals are being provided their total entitlement is £9.95 a week which hardly seems like enough to live a life of luxury. If meals aren't provided they get £49.18. Obviously people awaiting their asylum application being processed are not allowed to work, another reason we should be concentrating on getting the system running efficiently.

Not sure there's many 4 or 5 star hotels being used. They seem more run down budget hotels that can't get regular customers. The owners have seen an opportunity to get the government to pay for pretty much full occupancy and also cover the cost of a hotel refurb when the contract ends. Look at the reviews of the HIll in Allesley, hardly sounds 5 star luxury.

The situation can change but it needs more than politician's with performative nonsense to get anything done. We can see in the stats that changes we've made, both in policy and with things like brexit, have been disastrous. Things can be improved but nobody seems to want to have a grown up discussion. Just look at this thread!

The world currently has huge numbers of people being displaced due to conflict and we're not too far off even bigger numbers being displaced due to climate change. We need to work out, both us as a country and the wider world, how we are going to deal with the situation.

 

[Marty]

So give thdm a dinghy and tell them to row in the opposite fekkin direction!

The only logical solution is to not allow them onto British soil to start with.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The only logical solution is to not allow them onto British soil to start with.

So you don’t want to allow anyone to claim asylum?

 

[shmmeee]

So you don’t want to allow anyone to claim asylum?

You’d think this would just increase the number of actual illegals (as in people evading border force and disappearing into the country)

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You’d think this would just increase the number of actual illegals (as in people evading border force and disappearing into the country)

The answer remains that we need to process asylum claims far more quickly, and to co-operate much more closely with the EU to get this set up in mainland Europe, ideally France.

 

[chiefdave]

You’d think this would just increase the number of actual illegals (as in people evading border force and disappearing into the country)

We shut down most legal routes, the number of people being smuggled in vans and lorries went through the roof
We clamped down on van and lorry smuggling and boat crossings went through the roof
Not sure that a clamp down on boat crossings is going to mean asylum seekers just giving up and not attempting to enter the country.

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

Live near a migrant hotel Charles?

Nope, not as far as I'm aware. How many stars was the one near you originally?
When was it first used for immigrants..... under the C&U government?

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

The only logical solution is to not allow them onto British soil to start with.

Churchill will be turning in his grave. We stopped the Germans invading our country and now we let any old so and so in.

 

[Grendel]

Nope, not as far as I'm aware. How many stars was the one near you originally?
When was it first used for immigrants..... under the C&U government?

3 stars I believe. It’s pretty obvious it was under the last administration.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Churchill will be turning in his grave. We stopped the Germans invading our country and now we let any old so and so in.

Churchill also didn’t ban any refugees from entering the UK.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

Churchill also didn’t ban any refugees from entering the UK.

He let lin egals ones who went through the process. Not hundreds of thousands of unvetted males

 

[rob9872]

The one in Warwick @SkyBlueCharlie9 is 100% 4*. Its not far from me and my only point of reference. Not sure how that compares with others. I have no skin in this either way btw just FYI.

 

[shmmeee]

He let lin egals ones who went through the process. Not hundreds of thousands of unvetted males

Wait. Do you think people don’t have to go through a process of they enter via dingy? Why do you think they’re all in the hotels?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He let lin egals ones who went through the process. Not hundreds of thousands of unvetted males

Really? People fleeing the aftermath of WW2 had little if any documentation. They were from the same parts of Europe that Farage and his ilk spit on now.

It’s why Churchill played a key role in the Refugee Convention which prevents discrimination based on how a refugee entered the country, and Churchill’s own government passed legislation to that effect.

 

[Marty]

Really? People fleeing the aftermath of WW2 had little if any documentation. They were from the same parts of Europe that Farage and his ilk spit on now.

Many also purposely destroyed documentation back then too.