Transfer Rumour 25/26 Summer Transfer Window (50 Viewers)

hamil99

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Man City can ask 10-15-20m for Doyle all they like but the asset they have is a championship defender which means the buyers are championship clubs and I don't see many lining up to pay more than 6-7m maximum
I agree. Don't see anyone spending that amount on him. Maybe if he's loaned to the championship this season and is by far the best defender in the league, but he didn't set the world alight at Norwich last year. Right now I'd say he's probably worth between 5-6 million at a push.
 

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TomRad85

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5 players to cover 3 positions… What could possibly go wrong!?





Meanwhile, our CB scored more goals than one of our wingers… So why don’t we start with improving the 11 that’ll be starting the game?


We’re talking about Haji Wright and where his best position is and based on goals, it’s not LW.

In my view, I’m focused on putting the best around Haji to maximise his output… so signing players to keep the bench warm for him doesn’t do that.

I’ve said several times that if we sold BTA/Simms, I’d be happy to sign a replacement so we’re actually in agreement there.

How can 2nd or 3rd choice strikers be the problem when our CB scored more than a starting winger? All the top 4 teams had at least one winger with 10+ goal contributions and Leeds, Sheff U had at least 2.



‘Far more dynamic’ in everything but the quantifiable stuff like goals and assists though 😂
Still haven't broke down in a front 2 vs in the middle of a front 3...
 

Grendel

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Do we want Wright on the left taking the place of EMC where he scores less goals or playing in the middle where he scores more goals?

I'm absolutely shocked you've joined in with this 🧐

Wright has scored and created plenty on the left. Up front he has not been especially impressive
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Still haven't broke down in a front 2 vs in the middle of a front 3...
@fernandopartridge eye balled it and it’s about the same and off the top of my head, it’s about the same. So let’s test that.

This season, it was 8 goals up front split evenly between 3-4-1-2 (Robins), 4-2-3-1 (Lampard) and then 4 goals from LW.

23/24, he started upfront on his own in about 4 games? Maybe a few sub appearances (such as Leeds away) to add to that and he scored 3 goals. Meaning he scored 5 goals upfront with Godden/Simms. Considering you keep repeating that he’s ‘obviously’ better at LW, you’d think his goal scoring record would reflect that. Unfortunately, it doesn’t.

In his Cov career, there’s been marginal differences in terms of his goal scoring whether he’s in a front 2 or on his own. Thats without considering his career across Europe before he joined us (I believe in Turkey he was predominantly a loan striker in a 4-2-3-1/3-4-3).

I’m happy to draw a line under this conversation because you have your subjective opinion (which is fine), but whichever way you interpret the data, it suggests that he’s more effective as a striker.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Wright has scored and created plenty on the left. Up front he has not been especially impressive
He’s scored more and possibly even assisted more as a striker so that doesn’t check out.

To do what you do with Simms a lot and focus on this ‘games scored in’… He scored in 3 games as a LW this season and scored in 6 as a striker last season. Played 16 games as a LW, 10 as a striker.

Scored in 18.75% of his games as a winger versus 60% as a striker. So please continue.

Spoiler alert: we can crunch the 23/24 numbers too, but it’ll tell a similar story.
 

Grendel

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He’s scored more and possibly even assisted more as a striker so that doesn’t check out.

You are not acknowledging that he didn’t start well at the club and when the team hit form he was playing wide that season.

He has a lot more pace and can run at players in that position
 

fatso

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Do we want Wright on the left taking the place of EMC where he scores less goals or playing in the middle where he scores more goals?

I'm absolutely shocked you've joined in with this 🧐
It's simple, we bring in a 20+ goal striker, and then we move Wright to the left wing, where he will score far more goals than EMC

Why is that so hard for people to understand????
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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You are not acknowledging that he didn’t start well at the club and when the team hit form he was playing wide that season.

He has a lot more pace and can run at players in that position
I actually have. It was stated earlier that aside from a stretch under Robins, he hasn’t been as effective at LW than at striker.

He scored a brace v PNE (plus v Blackburn 3/4 games earlier) which was the game before we switched to a 4-2-3-1 and Haji’s role changed to LW.

Between Plymouth (H) and Boro (A), he scored 4 goals playing LW (Nov to Jan). His next goal in that position was Leeds (11 games) and then Ipswich at home. He scored 2 v Millwall, 1 v WBA, Huddersfield and Sheff W in between those goals as a striker.
 

Balli001

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It's simple, we bring in a 20+ goal striker, and then we move Wright to the left wing, where he will score far more goals than EMC

Why is that so hard for people to understand????
In theory amazing. But where do we find this striker within our price range. Just for comparison a grand total of 0 players in the whole championship scored 20 goals last season.......
 

fatso

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In theory amazing. But where do we find this striker within our price range. Just for comparison a grand total of 0 players in the whole championship scored 20 goals last season.......
We fund it with the mythical £5.5 million we allegedly bid for Rushworth, plus the money from the Gyokeres sale (if its not already spent) plus the sale of any of the following :- Collins, Wilson, Bidwell, Binks, Lats, Allen, Eccles, Simms or BTA.

Then there's the potential sale of MvE that the club have valued at £15million

And then there's some wages saved by loaning out Rapha, Andrews, and Bassette.

So, there's plenty of opportunity to bring in someone capable of getting us over the line.
And let's not forget we payed peanuts for Gyokeres (who scored more than 20 championship goals ) and Hamer so top quality doesn't have to cost the earth, and a premier league loan player isnt out of the question either.

See, its easy when you think about it 😘
 
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Grendel

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I actually have. It was stated earlier that aside from a stretch under Robins, he hasn’t been as effective at LW than at striker.

He scored a brace v PNE (plus v Blackburn 3/4 games earlier) which was the game before we switched to a 4-2-3-1 and Haji’s role changed to LW.

Between Plymouth (H) and Boro (A), he scored 4 goals playing LW (Nov to Jan). His next goal in that position was Leeds (11 games) and then Ipswich at home. He scored 2 v Millwall, 1 v WBA, Huddersfield and Sheff W in between those goals as a striker.

You would looking at cold hard stats have concluded that Cyrille Regis was a terrible striker.

Other than his first two seasons with us he wasn’t.

There are many things you can’t just evaluate and conclude on goals scored. Regis admitted that Sillett changed his career by harnessing his strengths. He still was never a prolific goal scorer. He did though get the ball to feet and move and play others in.

When he plays wide he is far more effective. He can take players with him, he can move and out balls into dangerous areas as well as creating chances for others.

Playing wide inevitably reduces goal scoring opportunities anyway. You’d think Tommy Hutchison was rubbish.
 

wingy

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His best game for us so far was in the middle against Sunderland. So what we should do is play him in a different position and leave one of our best players on the bench to make room for him.
I honestly think that was an invite from a lacklustre Sunderland psyching us out, they were abysmal?
 

Balli001

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We fund it with the mythical £5.5 million we allegedly bid for Rushworth, plus the sale of any of the following :- Collins, Wilson, Bidwell, Links, Lats, Allen, Eccles, Simms or BTA.

Then there's the potential sale of MvE that the club have valued at £15million

And then there's some wages saved by loaning out Rapha, Andrews, and Bassette.

So, there's plenty of opportunity to bring in someone capable of getting us over the line.
And let's not forget we payed peanuts for Gyokeres and Hamer so top quality doesn't have to cost the earth, and a premier league loan player isnt out of the question.
You totally missed my point i see. No team in the whole division had a 20 goal scorer last season. Do you honestly think any player loaned from the premier league scores 20 goals in a season? Delusional
 

fatso

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You totally missed my point i see. No team in the whole division had a 20 goal scorer last season. Do you honestly think any player loaned from the premier league scores 20 goals in a season? Delusional
Are you seriously suggesting that just because no one scored 20 goals last season, its never going to be done again???

That would be a new level of insanity, even for this forum!!!!

Chelsea are making Marc Guiu available for loan! (Just for eg)

This might be of interest to you

It clearly shows that last season was the first time in 25 years that the championship top scorer didn't hit 20 goals, and It's only been 4 seasons since Mitrovic scored over 40!
So I dont think it's me that's being delusional.
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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I would like to see Pereira but as well as Eccles being retained . I think a midfield with Grimes , Rudoni , Torp , Sheaf , Eccles and Pereira is highly competitive and no real drop off in quality when a player needs resting/injured or suspended. That is if Pereira is as good as we hope he is

Agree with you there, I’ve never been a fan of Eccles but he’s a good player to have in the squad for when we need him. Ideally we ditch Allen, keep Eccles and get Pereira, but not sure what sort of funds we have to allow that 😬
 

TomRad85

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@fernandopartridge eye balled it and it’s about the same and off the top of my head, it’s about the same. So let’s test that.

This season, it was 8 goals up front split evenly between 3-4-1-2 (Robins), 4-2-3-1 (Lampard) and then 4 goals from LW.

23/24, he started upfront on his own in about 4 games? Maybe a few sub appearances (such as Leeds away) to add to that and he scored 3 goals. Meaning he scored 5 goals upfront with Godden/Simms. Considering you keep repeating that he’s ‘obviously’ better at LW, you’d think his goal scoring record would reflect that. Unfortunately, it doesn’t.

In his Cov career, there’s been marginal differences in terms of his goal scoring whether he’s in a front 2 or on his own. Thats without considering his career across Europe before he joined us (I believe in Turkey he was predominantly a loan striker in a 4-2-3-1/3-4-3).

I’m happy to draw a line under this conversation because you have your subjective opinion (which is fine), but whichever way you interpret the data, it suggests that he’s more effective as a striker.
I don't think you'll find many Coventry City fans that think Wright has been better through the middle than on the left for us to be honest, but yes we may as well end it.
 

SkyBlueStallion_89

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AT LAST
Miguel Herrera Win GIF
 

ptr

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If I was Doug, I’d wack this spare £5.5 million on black at Grosvenor.

We win, we buy Doyle.

We lose, we just loan him.

Still got the Gyokeres money and no doubt Sporting will use theirs to buy Lati. Really a win win situation.

Would then use that to buy Binks out of his contract.
 

wingy

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I'd say it's going as it was planned to be, Wright will be moved and should be if his fitness holds out, then we should be able to go for the striker we seem to want, otherwise there was no reason or need to lay out £4m-£5m.for EMC , that's how I see things,and the debate well Pah!
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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You would looking at cold hard stats have concluded that Cyrille Regis was a terrible striker.

Other than his first two seasons with us he wasn’t.

There are many things you can’t just evaluate and conclude on goals scored. Regis admitted that Sillett changed his career by harnessing his strengths. He still was never a prolific goal scorer. He did though get the ball to feet and move and play others in.

When he plays wide he is far more effective. He can take players with him, he can move and out balls into dangerous areas as well as creating chances for others.

Playing wide inevitably reduces goal scoring opportunities anyway. You’d think Tommy Hutchison was rubbish.

He is a striker though, he made half of his career LW appearances under Robins in 23/24 and 24/25.

On that note, not only had Haji slowed down in terms of goals and assists playing LW from Jan 2024 and into 2024/25… we’ve changed manager and the tactics aren’t the same.

Haji’s one goal from LW under Lampard came from a set piece. There are mitigating circumstances (i.e. a long injury and then tendinitis) but he hasn’t looked the same player at LW under Lampard. Derby, Hull and Plymouth away (despite the goal) are some of the worst performances we’ve seen fromHaji. You could probably add Sunderland (A) to that too, to be balanced.

For all of that well written prose, Haji sees himself as a striker and so does Lampard. If we make a big money signing upfront, it’s a sign we’re selling Haji.

Whilst you might not be convinced with EMC, his output at LW was much better than Haji’s. So if Haji is better at striker than at LW, and EMC is better than Haji at LW… this issue sorts itself out because Haji is a blue chip championship striker.
 

Bigelvesy

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I don't think you'll find many Coventry City fans that think Wright has been better through the middle than on the left for us to be honest, but yes we may as well end it.
Statistically Wright is better through the middle.
Not only that, he see’s himself as a striker and i think its clear Lampard see’s him as that too.
job done.

way too many fans confuse wright getting on the ball more and being more involved in gameswhen he plays on the left - BECAUSE WE HAVE TACTICALLY LOOKED TO EXPLOIT THE WINGS - as him being “better” there.

The one game this season where we clearly attacked and played through the middle of the
Pitch, playing balls forward for our striker to run on to…..Wright scored a hat trick.

Wright is a centre forward. What we need to do when he plays there is actually look to get him the ball.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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He is a striker though, he made half of his career LW appearances under Robins in 23/24 and 24/25.

On that note, not only had Haji slowed down in terms of goals and assists playing LW from Jan 2024 and into 2024/25… we’ve changed manager and the tactics aren’t the same.

Haji’s one goal from LW under Lampard came from a set piece. There are mitigating circumstances (i.e. a long injury and then tendinitis) but he hasn’t looked the same player at LW under Lampard. Derby, Hull and Plymouth away (despite the goal) are some of the worst performances we’ve seen fromHaji. You could probably add Sunderland (A) to that too, to be balanced.

For all of that well written prose, Haji sees himself as a striker and so does Lampard. If we make a big money signing upfront, it’s a sign we’re selling Haji.

Whilst you might not be convinced with EMC, his output at LW was much better than Haji’s. So if Haji is better at striker than at LW, and EMC is better than Haji at LW… this issue sorts itself out because Haji is a blue chip championship striker.
Regardless of where along the front he plays, he needs that high line to play against. His best performances from memory have all come against teams employing one.
 

BlueSkiesForever

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Just a thought, has anyone seen social media posts of Allen or Bidwell in the new kit yet? Maybe I’ve missed some of the posts relating to them but I’m wondering if it means they’re likely to be sold? Wouldn’t exactly get the guys to do a photoshoot if they know they’re off soon. I’ve not properly looked into it tbf, just a bit of late night speculation 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

kg82

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SBT is like when you’re looking for your car keys: in your pocket? No. In the bowl? No. Next to the computer? No. Ohhh, they’re in the freezer, of coooouuuurse.
Who cares where Haji plays best (it’s off the left, btw), it’s a f*ckin transfer thread!
 

TomRad85

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Statistically Wright is better through the middle.
Not only that, he see’s himself as a striker and i think its clear Lampard see’s him as that too.
job done.

way too many fans confuse wright getting on the ball more and being more involved in gameswhen he plays on the left - BECAUSE WE HAVE TACTICALLY LOOKED TO EXPLOIT THE WINGS - as him being “better” there.

The one game this season where we clearly attacked and played through the middle of the
Pitch, playing balls forward for our striker to run on to…..Wright scored a hat trick.

Wright is a centre forward. What we need to do when he plays there is actually look to get him the ball.
Whatever mate, it seems it just you and that other one that thinks he's actually played better there for us. Not even said he won't play up front or that he's bad there, if we keep him he'll play both positions, he's certainly a hell of a lot better than the other strikers we own.

Main point to Shmmeee actually was if we do end up signing an actual good striker it puts Wright in an interesting position as I think Lampard prefers EMC on the left and if Lampard signs his own big money striker then suddenly Wright is far from guaranteed a starting spot. Regardless I'd like him to stay as I think you'd see us rotate the forwards more, but I don't know if he'd accept not starting every week.

The whole thing was done to deflect away from how poor our other forwards are. There a people who have been thinking it's a ludicrous proposition that we will sign another striker, just as there were those about signing another keeper. Let's see what happens shall we...
 

Lamps

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Wright has scored and created plenty on the left. Up front he has not been especially impressive
Of course.

You've already seen the stats.

So same question. Do we play him on the left instead of EMC or do we play him in the middle and EMC on the left?

We've gone back to this subject where Wright was supposed to be left footed so that was a reason to play him on the left. Remember the video of him where he was asked about his favourite position and is he better on his left?
 

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